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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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post Jul 25 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jul 25 2013, 10:18 AM)
Hahahha.... ok let's see...
1. PNB funds may not be right for supposed cronies because there are max limit to investing and is open only to individual and not company.

2. PNB does not get money to invest from govt but from ppl like you and me.

3. Investors like us do not loan our money to govt but we do if we buy govt bonds.

4. Bonds do give dividends, it may be better than FD but may not beat inflation rate.

5. Bonds are backed by the govt (legally) while PNB/EPF/etc2 are not (at least officially on paper that is).
Ok aarrr? tongue.gif
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This I understand and what you thought is same as mine. Haha. <3
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:55 AM

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And for those up there. Please do not reveal how much you have cash in hand as a bumiputera. I have to admit I am totally can't tolerate with that unfairness. This is me. But i am welcome those who said still got slot for bumi, and that's my max limit already. I really can't stand on those who say they having half a mill cash in hand using ASB. Please, if want to say, try be be fair and square. Try stand on my site. Feel the pain as non bumi. ASB and ASD already give y'all, and yet PNB still give slot in other. See how good you're. I am not jealous but just envy.

Sorry if I offended any, because I understand this is a free forum.
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post Jul 25 2013, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 25 2013, 11:08 AM)
nah, don't be offended or what. let others reveal. instead of being jealous or what, use that to be your determination to excel more

as for the allocations for non-bumi in ASW2020, ASM, ASD and such, you need to be clever. remember, there will always be people who need money and sell their saham. you just need to know when is the "selling season" (usually mid of the month or near CNY, near school opening) and u can try your luck

if you go ask over bank counters, they will outright tell you no more allocations because they are either lazy, or they are keeping the allocations for themselves / their friends

so be a bit more clever than them. use post office to check. be friend with the bank tellers / managers and ask them to let you know when there's a frees quota available

in short, being offended and being jealous doesn't bring you any benefit at all. that applies to any real life situation

btw, are you a girl that you get easily offended and jelly all the time?
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ok then, lets put that all aside. I appreciate what advice you gave. Perhaps I am to young to face this situation. We are learning new things everyday. Thanks Luci and Sorry all.


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post Jul 27 2013, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jul 27 2013, 03:18 AM)
i just started this stuff and i realised, 10 times i go. only 1 time i manage to get some quota and that is also very little.
the counter will alway say offline offline offline or no quota.
very frustrating indeed
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normal dude. Better than nothing....
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post Jul 28 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jul 28 2013, 02:41 PM)
YES i also thought that counter fella is just having a bad day. but the face like not happy like that
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not having bad day, but is LAZY
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jul 28 2013, 10:01 PM)
tomorrow will try again! vmad.gif

btw how do you ask ? do you ask how much quota can i take or just say i want <specific amount>!
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just try 100 units..
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 08:42 PM)
this is not kopitiam. pls refrain from posting your kopitiam style replies here
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Quote blank?

But, i don't think i say anything wrong unless one ****ing word? I edit then smile.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 09:43 PM

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Noted, Luci nod.gif


QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 29 2013, 03:23 PM)
People in Maybank Taman U says OFFLINE OFFLINE, CIMB Taman U says "kaunter ASB sampai 12pm skrg. Kita sibuk" mad.gif  mad.gif . I then go to Maybank Ungku Aminah, quite far from where I work and manage to open my ASB account, got the book already after several attempts going to the nearest Maybank and CIMB branch. Ponteng kerja for more than 1 hour already.  shakehead.gif

I want to ask, can I register my ASB account numbers to more than 2 online banking like RHBNow, CIMBClicks, and Maybank2u?
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Dear Leo,

I am afraid to say that the officer you've met is either lazy or just plain don't wish to help you. But, rest i am assure you will definitely not facing any problem to open an ASB account from any ASNB agent such is MBB, CIMB, RHBB, or PM, given that you are a bumiputera and aren't chip or invest in more than MYR 200000.00. Regarding the online banking, I am not so sure but you can have a call to ASNB office during office hour. One more thing Leo, can you please don't use your working time on your personal stuff?

Good Luck Have Fun smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 29 2013, 10:28 PM)
Early year 2013 I also went to the same banks, they give the same response; OFFLINE OFFLINE and OFFLINE that just made me giveup on them. Now almost reach age 24 (10days left), I thought that I need to plan an investment for my future. So I went to the same branch again and still receive the same answer(some more raya almost near, the excuse became more solid), so because tire of waiting, I went to another branch where there is more chinese community in the area and guess what, no problem at all. And although I'm a Malay with bumiputra status, my looks really look like a Chinese, maybe thats why they don't want to help.

And why I can't use my working time after receive permission? Only it took more than an hour to finish my work. Plus, working hour have change from 8am to 4.45pm, no break time so I need to do something else I might open ASB next month/next year. Tired of waiting la. Don't wanna wait anymore  shakehead.gif
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Dear Leo,

This is misunderstood from me from your statement because you said you "ponteng" which is mean leaving work without permission, so if with permission, is ok.

Regarding the other statement, i think you can see the difference between the staff of 2 areas and this is proven, the later one is much more hardworking than the before and this is also explain that why you waste your 1st half year of 2013. Its not about you looking like a Chinese, if yes, the banker will ask you to show IC to prove you are a Bumiputera status. But, from what you said, the bankers said the line is OFF, which meaning that the bankers know you are a Bumiputera and yet just LAZY which is a very common sickness of them. My advise is try to be good with the bankers 1st. And thats what i did.

Members above also have his point, go PM, the staff is better although some is still LAZY. But not EGO.
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post Aug 1 2013, 10:59 AM

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LOL today manage to chip in MYR 50.00 into ASM
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post Aug 1 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:45 AM)
Congrats..

Something is better than nothing..

I can only have money to try out in September, my debts for this few months are tremendously high..  blush.gif
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i suspects yesterday alot. the bankers tipu me after seeing me cash into ASG.

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post Aug 1 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 1 2013, 01:08 PM)
whoah... 1 time can deposit 92k in ASG.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

i'm impressed.
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help my parents do the transactions. Thats their hard earn money for the past 20 years
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post Aug 1 2013, 03:24 PM

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Add a side note.

" Any one knows what exactly happen to ASG? I see some people even failed or stopped for being open a new account, given that he is a new user. According to banks stuff, the line is off and they are going to imply a new policy. "

Any please response to this
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post Aug 1 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 1 2013, 04:50 PM)
Hi, interested to open a ASNB account. But looking back in the thread, seems that its not an easy thing.

Any advice?
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Ok, but we must know you are a bumiputera or not.

If you're than you are free to open any.
- ASB
- ASN
- ASN2
- ASN3
- ASD
- ASM
- AS1M
- ASW2020
- ASG


If you are a non bumiputera.

Than, i am sorry. All the quota are currently full for fixed price unit trust.

Only available are ASG and ASN3 for you.

Happy invest.


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post Aug 1 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Aug 1 2013, 04:45 PM)
I think it's a case of the banks refusing to do the work in opening the ASG account and giving excuses such as policy change and what not. If I were you, I would have taken the name of the teller and report it to PNB. Unless it is stated in PNB/ASNB's website, I believe there isn't any policy in stopping anyone from opening an ASG account.
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but this is the same person who help me to open ASG last month, and she is good person, because i know her. She told my sis that she receive a memo when she is on the way to create an account. I checked the website and nothing announced. She said can top up my account but can't make a new account. She also said, new policy may be imply but i don't know what kind of policy will be if it is real as so far no new policy imply for other PNB products for the past years, unless the issued cheque as a dividen back in year 2000-2005....

I don't know what will happen though... as the market very bad... dropped till 1.1569 today, from a peak of 1.1741 last week
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post Aug 1 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 1 2013, 05:04 PM)
laugh.gif Sorry. I forgot to clarify. I am non bumi.

So let say i want to open ASG and ASN3 is it still possible now?

I need to go to their office to open the account? Cannot do it online or via agent?
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ASG and ASN3 is far different from the ASM, AS1M etc because this is not fixed price unit trust.

Meaning, the price for a unit today will be different with yesterday or tomorrow...

Yes, you can create via agent. But you must understand this is far different from other PNB products.

Now ASG having promotion of 2 % of sale charge instead of 5 %.

You must know that the risk is there and this is a long term investment.
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post Aug 1 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 1 2013, 05:28 PM)
Ic. Hope you can help me understand it better.

The dividend is paid out base on total number of unit and not unit price right?

I was thinking to keep this for dividend, and not really sell it once the price increase. I understand it is possible the unit price might drop and I might see lost if I sell it off.

Is there any other concern I should know of?
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yes, the dividen is paid according to the units in hand.
I thinks that's all you need to know. Now is a good time as the price is dropping. I also beginner in ASG. Haha. But other fixed price unit trust is far better than this, too bad they are fully filled.
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post Aug 1 2013, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 1 2013, 06:05 PM)
Thanks.

Any suggestion on the easiest way to open an account? What options are there?
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Any Maybank, Pos Office, CIMB, or RHBB. or PNB office smile.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 1 2013, 06:39 PM)
Thx. What do I need to bring with me?
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IC and cash.

any other answer I left out? You can ask me, I willing to answer you ^^
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post Aug 1 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 1 2013, 07:33 PM)
Cash ar. Since this is not a fix price, means I need to know exactly how much a 100 unit (minimum) I need to bring? Haha.. Thanks for your help. Really useful for a newbie like me.

I wanted to link this account back to my CIMB actually. So I dont need to keep going to post office. I can open the account at post office rite?
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minimum need to see the price of that day....

and i am not sure about the linking account with ASG but this can be done for ASW, ASM, AS1M through M2U. About opening account, i done mine at MBB, not sure Pos got or not. smile.gif You can give them a call in the morning. 0320573000. They will answer all the questions smile.gif

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