Hi, first of all I have gouthritis condition since 2005. It was really bad early on but was under control for the past 2 years. As I start to get active again, my knees and ankles are hurting, and I was suggested to take glucosamine. So I tried glucosamine purchased from GNC. I found out that it is seafood based. But since I wont be taking so much, I guess there is no harm. However, just after 2-3 weeks, I had acute gout attack that I have not had for so long. And it lasted for almost 3 weeks now.

Is there any other solution for my knees and ankles? Are there any other glucosamine that I can take? Any suggestion or advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

my man,

logically speaking, gouty arthritis happen due to deposition of urate crystals in connective tissue, which commonly occur among those who have abnormal uric acid metabolism which causes elevated plasma uric acid levels (hyperuricemia).

by right, you should consider fixing your uric acid level. the best approach for gout is reduce inflammation, pain and manage your uric acid level.

glucosamine is not a treatment, it is a supplement for osteoarthritis. the fact that glucosamine is seafood origin may cause increased level of uric acid in your blood shows that why you are not responding positively.

i can suggest few range of drugs and supplements for gouty arthritis, but you better get yourself checked to rule out other factors first. talk to your physician.

touix

This post has been edited by touix: Mar 6 2012, 06:41 PM

patient should understand their own problem well.......

gout is cause by abnormalities in PURINE metabolism.........to answer the question, you need to know whether the product contains it.
a little google around finds this :


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gout/AN00983

doctor can only take care of you for the few minutes during consultation.
at home, patient should take care of themselves. know your condition, know how to take care of yourself

nailed it, glucosamine was never a treatment for gout. try colchicine for pain relief, or alternatively you might have to take allopurinol once the pain is over. but do take note of its severe side effects.

This post has been edited by Zeliard: Mar 6 2012, 10:05 PM

Ooppsss... my mistake for not explaining this better in my first post. For treatment of gout, I have been to multiple physicians and specialist and tried both colchicine and allupurinol.

Allupurinol doesn't work for me. Once on a 3 months course of allupurinol, with dosage adjustment, I had acute gout attacks and the symptom did not go away through out the whole 3 months. I was basically in pain and walking using the edge of my feet for the whole period. Even the doctors were puzzled. So it was decided that allupurinol doesn't suit me.

Colchicine works, but with side effects. It causes frequent visit to the loo. Nevertheless, it works to relieve the symptoms after an attack, albeit slowly. Hence it is only taken when there is noticeable early gout attack symptoms until the the pain stops.

The only thing that consistently works for me and without side effects (so far) is traditional remedy of spices and traditional treatment using beetle leaf (sirih).

Notwithstanding the gout treatment, I was taking glucosamine not for treatment of gout symptom or prevention. It is for the joint pain i have when I was not under any trace of gout attack. Granted, I did not refer to physician prior to taking the glucosamine. So my concern was does the glucosamine trigger my gout attack? Based on the link provided by slimey (thanks), it should not. But I am afraid to start taking the glucosamine again after this episode of attack. On the other hand, I like to remain active and keep fit by going to the gym, which subsequently gives me ankle and knee joints pain.

Any idea on how to tackel my dilemma? Thanks.

seems case of unresponsive allopurinol treatment.

are you sure you are having gout?may i know whats your serum urate level?allergies?any other medical conditions?

there are a few alternative to allopurinol:

Link 1
Link 2

This post has been edited by touix: Mar 7 2012, 07:59 AM

Avoid meaty (especially those porky intestines stuff) and peanuts.

Time to go vegan.

Take the juice of a lemon every morning to counter the acid. It works for my hubby's friend who once suffered from gout and had to use a walking stick.

Contrary to what most people believe lemon is not acidic; it is alkaline.

there are glucosamine products that are veggie based.. can't remember the brands

Correct.

"A Little Citrus Might Go A Long Way. "

http://www.jrheum.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=18785294


Mandarins, tangerines, mainly due to cryptoxanthin.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22085304

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_unshiu

http://servicefoods.com/my_health_info/art...r_nutrition.pdf

http://arthritis.about.com/od/nutrition/a/...tsvegetable.htm

http://fightgoutsucessfuly.com/joint-inflammation/


Tangerines fight heart disease.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/...10406161030.htm




Healthspan has plenty of nonshellfish glucosamine.

http://www.healthspan.co.uk/glucosamine-supplements/


Any diet or supplement which knocks down xanthine oxidase will help gout.

Drink lots of black cherry juice for a start, or take cherry extracts.

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/6/1826.long

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19689836/

http://www.lef.org/search/products.aspx?k=dptcherry


Vitamin C.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/art.21105/full


The Life Extension Foundation's protocol.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/immune_connec...2.htm#AnchorSug

I'd suggest to try to drink the Forever Freedom. Forever Freedom takes the leading substances, Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondroitin Sulfate and MSM, known to help maintain the structure and health of cartilage by keeping this natural “shock absorber” well lubricated.

TS, I having same suffer like you. I do take allopurinol daily, but once a while still get the ankle pain (may be after too much seafood or red meat). Is this means allopurinol doesn't work on me?
Mind to share what medicine your doctor give during your gout pain at peak? What is side effect on this medicine?
Appreciate anyone can contribute advice here.....

I don't know about whether allupurinol effectiveness on you. That is up to you and your physician to decide.

For me, during attack, I'll be taking colchisine/goutnil. If the pain level is high, some pain killer. If it got too much, like last 2 weeks where I have to crawl down stair to get to the car, a jab of I dunno what by the doctor.

This time around, the gout has lasted since February, and the joint at the base of my toe already have permanent swelling.

Losing hope in clinical medeicine. Trying alternative medicine now. See how it goes.

Hi.

Mareno77, how old are you? 35? since your name has the 77, i assumed you were born in the year of 1977.

what is your last time doing full body medical checkup?

Start taking some good digestive enzymes with your meals.

Then take serrapeptase (serratio peptidase), the silkworm protein-digesting
enzyme - two tablets, twice a day.

The original brand of serrapeptase is Danzen from Japan. You can find it
in the pharmacies here, been around for many years. Quite a few generics
around too, some made locally.


This guy seems to have tried everything.

" I have taken cherry juice, celery seed, a compound called gout cure, Ester c, Yucca root,
quercetin, colchicine, allupurinol, endomethicine and a whole slough of NSAIDS. Been on
vegan diet. "

" The conclusion that I came to was, the true cause of gout is poor digestion of proteins
causeing an overproduction of acid. Acidosis is the cause of gout ! I now use food enzymes
everytime I eat. These help break down the proteins and carbs to simpler forms so the
body doesn't produce so much acid, therefore doesn't have to be neutralized. "

http://msm-msm.com/oldbbs/messages/7867.html


http://www.serrapeptase.info/Serrapeptase-...2%80%99s-story/

http://www.karunaflame.com/serrapeptasetest.pdf

Good info.. I am searching more info on serrapeptase based on your post. Thank you.
I just had a blood and urine test today. My gout condition is ongoing for the past 4 months now. So the specialist is suspecting rheumatoid arthritis (RA). Tests is still not conclusive. Going to have another one next week. Anyway, it seems the serrapeptase is also beneficial for RA. Definitely gonna find out more on this. Thanks again.

gosh.........you believe every testimony on the net?
not to mention the broscience lol

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Bro can you explained in detail about traditional remedy of spices and traditional treatment using beetle leaf (sirih).?

If you got a write up you can pm me ...

I think I have to rewrite on the beatle leaf treatment. Not there is no side effect at all. What I meant was no internal body function(?) side effect. But externally there is. and quite unbearable too sometimes as it cause itchiness like crazy and the skin will break with clear liquid running off the slits. (annoying pain =pedih). But the gout pain would be gone.

But now, my pain episode turns out not to be only gout. That's why all treatments weren't working. Just last week I was refered to a rheumatologist. Suspected Rheumatoid arthritis!!! tommorrow gonna have a repeat test. hopefully not so bad.

Can Gout patients eat mushroom and broccoli? Some contradicting info online.

Try msm instead