Note the in game steering is bugged. The steering turning angle is too small in the replay.

I have access to the current build.

The game is feature complete but they do need time to get the optimisation and the UI right. It is fairly unoptimised at the moment and some parts of the UI, mainly the pitstop is quite rough. It is not exactly due to competition but more like if they release it next month, you'll get a game that might need to be patched a lot.

The game will not be scaled down so you'll still get the day night cycle, rain weather that affects your handling, pitstop with race strategy, flags systems and so on, along with 40+ tracks and 60+ cars. So, it is very unlikely to have another Watch Dog syndrome again.

I had some optimisation isses, as if there is a memory leak or something. It was smooth 60, then drop to 20 for a few seconds and go back up to 60.

The dedicated servers needs a lot more work, and I think they also need to fix the awkward pit UI.

Still can make it for November if they want but i think it still need patches. Consoles, I dont know as they havent been showing much. I guess consoles are having optimisation issues.

Project CARS preorder now up. Release date is 20 March 2015.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/234630

I had access to the developers forums and also played the game.

If you are a hardcore racing fan, you might like this game.

Performance wise is pretty good and its pretty fun to play at its current stage but the reason they delay is that they could not bring all the cars up to their standards for physics and FFB. And also some of the UI are bugged till now. And there are some reoccurring bugs that used to plagued the game.

I am going to preorder as I know these guys will deliver a decent product at the end.

At its current state, i think its a good racing game as each car is very different from each other. Like a Mercedes Benz SLS feels very different from the FIA GT3 version. The GT3 version feels a lot more grippy and easier to drive due to the aero improvements while the road version is a lot more "wild" because it has little aero improvements and also road tires Also, the road version also inherit the tail happy characteristics from the real car where the back of the car tend to slide a lot more. They managed to bring that into the game.

pCARS is being consulted with about half a dozen of real life race drivers where a lot of them knows whats wrong with the current racing games in the market. So, they thrive to bring the racing experience they had on the track into the game. It should drive pretty good but I am still concern about the force feedback as it is still not up to par with other racing games.

pCARS is not perfect by any means but it does has strengths over other racing games.

It is just a 2 weeks delay due to distribution issue. The game is largely done with no major bug so far.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Feb 22 2015, 02:30 PM

It already quite competent at the moment. It just that multiclass can be a bit of a mess at times and some tracks like Zolder is still quite terrible the last time I played.

Because you bought the pirated version that is based on the October 2014 leaked build. The AI was very buggy in the leaked build and the FFB is quite terrible because they were overhauling it that time. The game looks pretty dull in the mid day like almost every racing game, I usually play it on dusk or dawn when the game looks the best or if your PC can take it, start the game with x60 weather transition, the game looks stunning.

I played the gold build on a Lenovo Y450, it looked amazing and plays extremely well at 40 to 60 fps.

Also, shame on you. Can afford a PC but still pirate a game.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: May 6 2015, 01:22 PM

Surprisingly, the reviews are quite good. Internally, it is around 85.5% so far.

Seemed like there is a market for racing games like this.

Hopefully the user feedback are also as positive as the reviews.

All digital versions should come with both DLCs.

Modified pack isnt even up for sale on Steam so far.

I did not buy from either.

Modified pack is supposed to be a preorder DLC but from the main site, it appears that they had bundled it with every new digital copies along with Limited Edition DLC.

It was never meant to be sold separately or exclusive content forever. It was made to keep the retailers happy.

I rather everyone has the same base game than only those who pre-order has them.

It had 4 delays throughout the development where it was supposed to be out in 2012, not 2014.

It has the most tracks among all racing games but car list wise, it is more diverse than having the most cars. Each are tuned to be quite different.

Are you using gamepad or wheel? Input lag should be history by now.

If you are using gamepad, change to Mode 2 in the setting, it is more twitchy than Mode 3.

Mode 3 is really bad for me. It feels like I am driving a truck. The way they handle default setups is pretty terrible IMO but once you get over the initial configurations, its a pretty good game.

AMD users having low FPS issues cause SMS sent 20 keys for AMD to optimise for the release build a while ago and they did not optimise their drivers for it. Apparently a 660Ti can pump out more fps than a r290.

Do remember to get updated drivers if you are using AMD.

I dont understand why you keep saying that AMD cards has no issue. AMD cards can run the game but at far lower performance than it is supposed to be.

There is a modded Windows 10 drivers that will boost the performance of AMD cards in pCARS by 25 to 50%. The current Windows 7 and 8 drivers are not remotely optimised for it. The head studio also confirmed that AMD issues are true and AMD is working on it.

And if you are pirating the game, please keep it to yourself.

You were talking about the pirated build in your previous post. If you had pirated a game, keep it to your self. It is not permitted in the Rules and Regulaitons of the forum. And most pirated builds are based on October 2014 build even when released build is cracked, you are getting a buggy build that isnt representative of the game at all. That build has many bugs from rendering lag, FFB, physics and so on.

Poor performance on AMD GPUs is a widespread issue in the live build. It is confirmed to be an issue that SMS is looking to resolve next week. If people cant get it running at comparable level to similar nVidia hardware, then it has to be fixed. Not tweaking your whatever power levels or looking at benchmarks. There are cases that r290 running pCARS on 30fps on medium which is completely unacceptable.

Head of Studio does not test hardware but it is his responsibility to get the game fixed. It was a severe issue that the head of studio had to clarify it to the backers to let us know whats happening behind the scene. There is a large population of unhappy AMD owners that their hardware is running the game at poor frame rates. At least the modded Windows 10 drivers does alleviate the issue.

AMD dropped the ball this time as SMS had sent them dozens of almost gold builds and they did nothing with it since October last year. Until only people started complaining, they only started to develop a driver for the game after release.

If you are concern about car list, I am sorry to say that the game isnt for you. It is designed to be a racing game foremost, not having the widest selection of manufacturer. No unlocks, no grinding, you just start the game and race with any car you like that is tuned to be different from other cars in the game.

It is more like Grid Autosport but with a much expanded driving physics.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: May 9 2015, 04:49 PM

I ran pCARS on a 5870 Mobility since 2011 and I rarely had FPS issues outside optimisation issues that nvidia users also get. The main problem is the newer drivers that ran like garbage on pCARS but older drivers ran fine where AMD completely ignored optimising their drivers for pCARS.

The whole physics and rendering engine is written from scratch that does not use any Gameworks features. It is not dependent on what GPU you use as the physics calculations are offload onto the CPU while renderer uses platform neutral codes. The only thing that uses PhysX is collision and objects flying off the ground that is designed to be CPU bound. PhysX offers barely anything that can be used by pCARS as PhysX does not cover any sort of tire contact or aerodynamic physics which is why they had to write the entire physics engine from scratch. The game is based on ISI gMotor engine that covers many aspect of the game where PhysX and Gameworks has little to offer in a racing game.

The only reason why pCARS is listed as Gameworks title is because they wanted to use a PhysX specific feature called Apex Turbulance to further improve fluid effects visually. That was canned early last year.

Since the consoles also ran on AMD based hardware, why is it only the PC version having so much issues with AMD hardware? Then, AMD is now saying that nVidia is deliberately gimping their hardware in Witcher 3 based on an optional Hairworks features. AMD has a history of blaming other parties for their incompetence where now I stopped buying their hardware after almost spending RM6k on a piece of 4kg paper weight.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: May 22 2015, 05:43 PM

There are tonnes of misleading information surrounding pCARS such as misleading statements that it is an arcade game or it is made with the same Shift 2 engine.

The only thing that uses physicX in pCARS is collision. Smoke effects are designed by SMS themselves that was never fully optimised without performance hit. There used to be an even better smoke effects early on but it was removed because it is much harder to optimise than the current one. It is the same with weather where it received less optimisation through out development where I had seen people falsely claimed that it is tied to Gameworks for some odd reasons. It is not and there is an official statement by SMS that the game only uses PhysX for collision. pCARS is a fairly demanding game to begin with due to the high physics calculations rate that the game employs and also large amount of light source.

At the same time, it doesnt make sense for an independent company to deliberately cripple AMD to limit their own sales to nVidia. Then, drawing a lot criticism on how bad their game runs. What benefits that SMS get from this? Other than lower sales and bad PR.

AMD had been incompetent all these times where every time a new game comes out, AMD had to take a few weeks to get their drivers out while nVidia actively pursue to work with developers to optimised the game early on. nVidia even provided free marketing for pCARS early on when they could not afford any form of marketing because they see potential in the game. AMD on the other hand never really cares about them. Even after the game had gone gold and SMS sent them 20 keys to optimise their drivers for that game, AMD did not even reply their emails since October last year. AMD do not care about pCARS at all where the game is out for almost 3 weeks, they cant even bother to release their driver for that game.

At the same time, why should I buy products from a company that incompetent in almost every way? I had old AMD GPUs that does not have updated drivers when similar or older nVidia GPU still has driver support. Or the worse thing where the PC I bought that was shipped with a bugged BIOS for the AMD GPU that took the manufacturers almost 6 months to a year to fix them. In the mean time, AMD is busy playing victim that the manufacturers did not designed the GPU properly instead of working with them to fix it. In addition to that, there are AMD Gaming sponsored games like Saints Row 3 and 4 that ran poorly on AMD GPUs when nVidia still managed to run the game with higher FPS.

nVidia is unethical but I rather go with them than an incompetent company.