Buat baik berpada-pada
Means if you want to do good you must berkira la when to do it for who wanna do it how much wanna do it?
It's like saying "Ok today I'm gonna donate money but I'll donate RM2 only cause later RM5 i wanna buy coklat"
I don't understand why if wanna do good must berpada-pada.


True story this morning:
Me: I go pick up jiran jap. Bai.
Mak: Yer y u always do work for them one??
Me: Wut. I'm not doing anything now also so y not
Mak: U know onot pipul love to take advantage of pipul like you!! U know or not if jiran ask his sibling to pick him up his siblings will ask for payment and he will pay!! Now that u always help him for free so everyday he'll ask u help him!!
Me: Near only mah, tak sampai RM2 pun minyak. Lagipun not everyday.
Dad: I know it's not sampai RM2 but you think money so easy to earn meh? With his siblings he can pay but with you he dowan pay pulak.
Me: Cause I don't ask for payment.
Dad: And that's why he always ask for ur help!
Me: Hey, I'm not berkira how much fuel cost to help this and that all la, if you wanna buat baik to people why need to berkira this and that?
Dad: Buat baik berpada-pada... later people take advantage of you like now, those kind of people once they take advantage they will do more and more!
Me: If I dowan help then I say I dowan, now i feel like helping, so i go help. Other days i don't feel like helping, so I say no. I don't make stupid excuses like tengah ada kat luar la bz la because I don't want help. Plus it's not too membebankan the cost, and i decided to help, y must berkira?
Dad: *angry* kids nowadays born in luxury don't know how to appreciate parents work hard to find money!!



I kenot brain la. Explain plox.

you how old

42

Tlg buat sandwich jap bleh?

sm u so good liao.
semoga anda dicucukri rahmat

Your parents wants the rm2

nk tumpang

malays create this saying because malays themselves know that malays like to take advantage of other peoples goodwill

no roti at home

i love to take advantage and manipulate pipul
and i am muka tebal always ask for help but not be able to return the favor
and when i am berkira, i will really berkira to the last cent.

Sebab pompuan terlalu baik la ramai jadi keldai dadah
Buat baik biar bertempat
Jgn kawan dgn org yg tidak dapat beri kita kesenangan di masa depan

u 42 still use parents money for petrol?

This post has been edited by Rrrocks: Mar 3 2012, 05:02 PM

i dun think it's only applicable to meleis...

u really good la TS. but as ur parents said, b careful later ppl take advantage on ur kindness..

jokes on you

buat baik berpada pada tu macam tengok tempat lah.

takkan member suruh tolong mencuri hang nak tolong atas nama berbuat baik kat member

Which reminds me most of my friends are inanimate objects.
Memang betul2 membantu kehidupanku wahai bantal, selimut busuk, mp4 dan payung.

Fuel i always use my own money.

I'm not good at all, i'm far from good.
It's just that, I really don't understand. Buat baik berpada pada? What tis mean? I really kenot digest this concept in my brain.
Who came up with this thing? In english version got?

itu bukan buat baik
itu bodoh namanya

dah kata member mintak tolong? hao?

buat baik shudn't be something that mendatangkan dosa, no?
if it's like that then it is 'tolong buat jahat'
philosophy 101

42 = 24 = kita sama umoq

People this tyoe we called doormat

baik sangat nanti orang lain amek kesempatan

TS tumbang I balik can?

jgn buat baik sampai bodo sgt, lurus bendul abis, nanti dipergunakan

Just becareful when offering yoh pusseh to some sosej guise aite.

Sm, dia jantan kan? Sungguh nyata firman Allah. Dan jagalah faraj kemaluanmu kaum wanita. Sm, take care of urself. Even datuk pun rogol cucu skrg. Inikan pula jiran. Innamal amalu binniat. Tp kena waspada. Bila berdua, ada ketiga nanti.

Bolded for truth.

No i mean, if I don't feel like helping, I will reject instantly without hesitation. Very hard for me to help pipul ekceli. It's not that when pipul ask to do something I feel the need to do it anyway. banyak kali my neighbor ask for help, teman beli buku la, beli stationery la, i decline banyak kali kot. Definitely not lurus bendul.
But I decline not because of "Oh tak boleh nak tolong sangat orang ni, nanti dia ambik kesempatan." But simply because I lazy to go out. And I tell them I'm lazy to go out.
And if I help means I really want to help, not because wanna balas jasa ke budi ke hapa.

He's 9.

Better jgn buat baik Sgt cos nowadays ppl suka ambik kesempatan leh

LOL
dont complicate simple stuff.
it means,dont jadi nice sangat,nanti kena pijak.
memang betul la kata bapak awak tu.

sebab saya pernah kena,true story.

tldr

Sm, are u a pedobear? Duhhh. Shit happens. I ngorat u, u jual mahal. Haha

I don't deny it, my brain work in complex ways
I don't understand why got parameter of being baik,
if wanna do good can't we just do good je without considering "Hm dont do this too oftenly nanti kena pijak"

Dulu I was a tiang too, whatever people ask me to do I will do, but then I learned how to change that. I decide if I want to help that person or not.
Just that recently I decide to help more than ask for help. If my mood don't really wanna help pipul, i simply don't do it because i dont feel like doing it.

because i tried to compare this concept to Rasulullah's concept, and couldn't find resemblance.

Berpada-pada. Perkara ini pernah dibincangkan dahulu bersama rakan2 dan cikgu. Kalau nak hurai dekat sini, agak panjang ceritanya....

Kadangkala manusia lain suka ambil kesempatan dengan kita. Lagi2 kalau kita ni jenis manusia yang tak beberapa berkira. Kata2 abah anda itu ade bernasnya, mungkin satu masa nanti anda akan faham...

hai stesenmonkey, boleh tumpang hantar i pegi hotel?

Try to understand your parent feeling, probably something happen to them and don't want their child to follow their past mistake...

If i'm your father, I already piap piap u with rotan for question me back...

Don't help until you put you and your family in a predicament/ don't help bad people

Macam jadi keldai dadah la

Saya setuju. Walaupon golongan tua ni kadang2 tidak secerdik kita sekarang. Tetapi mereka ade pengalaman, sesuatu yang kita tidak ada. Kalau ade pon, tidak sebanyak mereka....

I will explain to you. Do good things but at certain limit. As your parents said that people might just take advantage at you is true. You just dont know when. Maybe one or two times luck on your side but who knows one day you are not lucky enough. Nowadays crime happen even broad daylight. I have seen enough people who loves to take advantage on people who they see easy.

Another thing you need to remember you feel so need to help your friend and you decided it is better to derhaka to your parents. That is another example of buat baik berpada2. Do good but not up to derhaka to your parents.

Dulu i slalu kasi sedekah konon nya nk tolong saudara seislam kita dlm kesusahan, sehinggalah I dpt tahu diorg tu sindiket minta sedekah dn dpt 30k setiap bulan, ade yg sanggup colek budak utk dipotong tgn kaki sbb nk tagih simpati or yg terlalu baik memberi sedekah

Sekarang ni sy jumpa je peminta sedkah, sy kasi gula2 hacks je

I always have a hard time understanding other people's feelings/emotions including my parents.
Most of the time I genuinely couldn't care :/

My neighbor is 9 y.o, today got sekolah tambahan, nobadi to pick him up from school.
It's not that far from my home, but couldn't risk him walking home alone since a lot of child kidnapping case in my area.

Since when do you start help him??? i had this situation before... but as we (penumpang) want to show thank to him/her, we give money like petrol or duit kopi by the end of the month, even though they not ask for it...i think that man is kinda stingy person if he don't give something to you....its adat berjiran laa...



This post has been edited by yanouchi: Mar 3 2012, 06:03 PM

buat jahat jangan sekali, buat banyak kali
ahahahahha

Your father only fears that you would eventually find it harder and harder to decline later on, that is all. There is a saying that goes "Familiarity breeds contempt".

It means while people at the start feel segan/paiseh/shy, they will eventually start to assume you would be doing so and so just because they thought they know you well.

Eventually you would care about what they think about you and then such doubts would bring in more hesitation in refusing their next plea for help.

sm jom tgk wayang:3

Limit like how? How you'd know you've reached the limit or not?

What I don't understand is, when you have DECIDED to help someone, why you wanna expect something like repayment ke hapa. Like the tumpang car case, already decide wanna let the fellow tumpang right, but why wanna berharap that person wanna pay duit terima kasih? Why can't you just say terus terang "Ok I can send you but pay me RMxx" or "Ok I can send you but don't take too long." instead of helping and then after that kutuk2 that fellow tak reti berterima kasih ka hapa.

If someone ask me a favor i would shamelessly ask another favor in return. Unless if I decided that one is small matter and tak kisah, I just let it go. But i think my parents think I buat tak kisah at most things and people take advantage of me.

Second part, but what if you parents are wrong? I've encountered the second one numerous times also. Curi2 bawak masuk injured cat and treat then after my mom knows she furious and chase the cat out. Second case I buy mcdonalds for myself then decide to give it away to anak2 gelandangan kat bas stop then my mom marah2 says why i gip to them.

i hardly gip money, i oweys gip food

Let's see, more than 10 years already. But although my parents help them more, they will silently complain one.

I think this is because the norm of our society yang bila dah bagi sikit nak mintak lebih2, and then because we wanna jaga air muka we pun bagi la lebih2 sebab takut bersengketa dan sebagainya.

Honestly, I don't care what people at my housing area think about me. And I don't really feel reluctant to reject someone's help ekceli.
Just that when I decide to help someone pipul kinda see this as a big deal and all.

i think i understand u sm
and its much simpler,than wat other thinks

u wanna help.u help
u dont want,u dont help

tidak ada unsur keterpaksaan disitu
so,xde la unsur "kena pijak"
betul?

becoz sm doing it,becoz sm wanted to.not becoz she forced to

Help too much for sure kena pijak later.

once kena pijak, regret 9999

some of us BEEN there before

well,in sm case,she havent been pijak yet
and from what she said,she wont help,if she feel like she dont want to,
so she probably not gonna get pijak

nobody can make us do things
the choice is at our hands

we can let people pijak us,or not

dont blame others for our own weakness/indecisiveness

This post has been edited by amon_meiz: Mar 3 2012, 06:31 PM

that's one very shallow, even you won't realize it

still i like where this thread going to be

Ah, now I know... pickup 9 yo school kid uh.... that boy must be cute that you offer yourself to help...

i cant disagree with that
sometime,we did not realise what we had done

Have you guys got the circulated email that there is woman help this lost child back to his house, once she touch the doorknob, she got electocuted, then fainted. When she wokes up, there no single pie e of clothes on him, not even a strand. There was about like 15 condom scatter all over the place

What do we learn from here?
Do not help stranger
In the past many good hearted kid that try to help stranger with direction got kidnapped. Its better to play safe than sorry

Okay. But in this case, it was a neighbour, not a random stranger. Hence he (she?) can show goodwill as much as he wants, as long as it's not to the degree of obsession.

buat baik agak agak lah..some ppl gonna pijak kepala u if u too good

yes yes thank u for summarizing
haha perempuan memang tak tahu nak summarize things

but i've been pijak-ed before, even worser than u pipul might think
i've been a spare tyre test drive unit for a male fren yang kena dump, i've been pushed to finish assignment for 5 pipul alone, i've became other pipul's kuli, i've been used for pipul's business/political benefit, i've been a dbkl tong sampah, etc.
But then i learn to grow out of it, and now when I say no, it means no. And I don't care if that person will hate me for refusing to help. But if I insisted to help, then I don't mind wasting my time even if pipul think i kena pijak.

exactly as u said, we ourselves decide to let ppl pijak us or not

he is tembam bulat
his nickname is bulat

Good deeds will get good karma, you are a good girl/boy sm.

wanted to say this too...beat me to it.

bulat oh bulat......

oh my, oh why....

obvious reason isn't it?

alin mai sini sebab saje nk kenakan aku. sedih la cmni kak oi....

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Added on March 3, 2012, 7:18 pmI dunno lol. Malam ni jangan lupe sokong Liverpool. hewhewhew....

This post has been edited by ghodul: Mar 3 2012, 07:18 PM

Tell your dad it should be more like "people nowadays very selfish and take advantage of others and not willing to help".

malam gua golek tayar

hewhewhewhew.....

jiran jiran ok la. but dont always help fren, be selfish once a while.

Wow.four ty two.and I thought I was old

so u've been kena screwed edy? piapiap

not in that sense lah

She means by....

Kena jadi mangsa mengadu keadaan. Lelaki mengadu macam2 pada beliau, tapi hakikatnya lelaki itu sama sekali tidak minat pada beliau...

Tapi bagus ape jadi benda tu. Itu membuktikan yang orang percaya dengan kita. Bukan senang nk gain trust dari seseorang. Kalau sesape yg pandai manipulate perkara cmtu, dia yang untung...

aiyoo never heard,

"too kind for your own good" aa?

me also bulat
come pick me up

No lah.

That guy bring me out for a date, mesra2 all, layan really nicely and all, while perfectly aware that I don't see him that way.
Then one day ask me to kenalkan a girl to her, turns out the girl used to be the girl i minat.
Waffarkkk.

yup
thats what u need to keep in mind
i wish u all the best sm

buat dupe dua lori

Mcm ni bro. Maksud mak u tu kalau nak buat baik kena la man man. Takkan orang tengah bertikam ko nak masuk kasi stop. Tak pasal ko kena tikam. Lagi satu kalau orang tu asik mintak tolong je sampai pijak kepala n take advantage, xkan ko still nak tolong?. Man man la. Bukan la bila nak buat baik tu kena berkira, tp kena pastikan keadaan tu betul2 sesuai. Yang buat jahat jgn sekali tu maksudnya kita ni manusia buat baik byk mana pun org susah nak ingat. Tapi once kita spoil, itu je la yg org akan ingat. So jgn la sesekali bhat jahat sbb kejahatan tu akan merubah pendapat org terhadap kita walaupun kita byk buat kebaikan.

orang yang cakap dia tak pernah buat jahat ialah penipu scammer

aku tak pernah buat baik

Kesian gilela cmtu. Mujur tak pernah kena....

kau memang tak pernah baik pun