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post Mar 1 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Mar 1 2012, 01:54 PM)
jap and estbalish jerman might join use Proton product  if China / Korea / India car make report they untung meningkat + Sales tinggi bla bla bla...

zaman sekarang ni kereta tu made in korea ke china ke german ke jepun ke sama je bro.u said Toyota Prius is the first electrical car right? so when Honda see this `succesful` so they follow release Honda Hybrid...so Toyota counter attack balik release Prius C.(betul ke ada Prius C?)

if u said Ferrari or Porsche itu lain cerita.
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I believe the first hybrid car is from Porsche it self... A lot of ppl tot Japanese is the best in inventing new stuff, but in reality they are good in taking others people idea and improve it.. Which is call innovative.. rclxms.gif rolleyes.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

Ferdinand Porsche (3 September 1875 – 30 January 1951) was an Austrian-German automotive engineer and honorary Doctor of Engineering. He is best known for creating the first hybrid vehicle (gasoline-electric)...
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Mar 1 2012, 12:54 PM)
jap and estbalish jerman might join use Proton product  if China / Korea / India car make report they untung meningkat + Sales tinggi bla bla bla...

zaman sekarang ni kereta tu made in korea ke china ke german ke jepun ke sama je bro.u said Toyota Prius is the first electrical car right? so when Honda see this `succesful` so they follow release Honda Hybrid...so Toyota counter attack balik release Prius C.(betul ke ada Prius C?)

if u said Ferrari or Porsche itu lain cerita.
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IF.. biggrin.gif

anyway in automotive and other products, hard for others to use your brand la.. nowadays many recall and product liability.. especially in US the penalty can cause millions of payout and name also spoil liao.. barrier of entry to be other ppl subcon or major component supplier is very high.. so.. IF..
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Mar 1 2012, 12:45 PM)
get yourself E36 M3 la,fun to drive,easy to tapau other souped-up hondas & even new bmw what,not much useless electronics
then put extra twin-turbo & supercharged summore brows.gif
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those old M3 engine with nikasil coated parts scary ler.. repair bills.. sweat.gif dun say many hartge M3 engines lying around also in KL.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:58 PM)
IF..  biggrin.gif 

anyway in automotive and other products, hard for others to use your brand la.. nowadays many recall and product liability.. especially in US the penalty can cause millions of payout and name also spoil liao.. barrier of entry to be other ppl subcon or major component supplier is very high..  so.. IF..
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Proton supply pada Korea / China / India pun cukup.yang 3 negara ni jaga baik baik...yang JAP dan German tu bagi je barang claim warranty kat diorang...
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Mar 1 2012, 12:54 PM)
boleh lawan.. tiada apa yang mustahil

yang penting, kena rajin keluarkan idea baru, buat banyak patent dalam industri automotif, kat jerman diaorang buat beribu patent nak tonjolkan kehebatan pendidikan kejuruteraan diaorang... mula-mula dulu adolf hitler dulu pergi cabar rakyat jerman buktikan diaorang boleh kalahkan kehebatan ilmu fizik yahudi, sementara itu di malaysia, semua orang jati diri memang tak kuat langsung.. terlalu agongkan penjajah british.
if this is applied , yes there is no limit, we already gone to the moon probably explore mars on man mission now.. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 01:02 PM

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84 million? After all the protection they get?

I think the government should ban all foreign cars no matter what. Then maybe Proton's losses would be like, 80 million instead of 84..

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post Mar 1 2012, 01:03 PM

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that was last year punya story la
suku tiga somemore
now proton under DRB-hicom la
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 1 2012, 12:57 PM)
I believe the first hybrid car is from Porsche it self... A lot of ppl tot Japanese is the best in inventing new stuff, but in reality they are good in taking others people idea and improve it.. Which is call innovative..  rclxms.gif  rolleyes.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

Ferdinand Porsche (3 September 1875 – 30 January 1951) was an Austrian-German automotive engineer and honorary Doctor of Engineering. He is best known for creating the first hybrid vehicle (gasoline-electric)...
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Proton idea Dr Mahathir.tapi yang jadi CEO orang lain. laugh.gif i think Honda and Toyota founded and organize by same person. sweat.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Mar 1 2012, 01:02 PM)
84 million? After all the protection they get?

I think the government should ban all foreign cars no matter what. Then maybe Proton's losses would be like, 80 million instead of 84..

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even now say in JAN2012, the people who support proton brand, high percentage cannot get loan to buy the car.. i think need to come out 10k gov subsidi per proton liao..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 1 2012, 01:01 PM)
if this is applied , yes there is no limit, we already gone to the moon probably explore mars on man mission now..  biggrin.gif
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PROTON ada potensi pasaran yang kuat di afrika

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QUOTE(http://allafrica.com/stories/200509200239.html)
South Africa: Malaysian Proton Cars On Way to Matching Success of India's Tata

Johannesburg — EARLY indications are that Imperial Group could replicate the success of its Indian Tata vehicle range with the Proton line from Malaysia.

Sales of the Proton exceeded the group's most optimistic forecasts in the month after the vehicle was launched in SA last month.


QUOTE(http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2011&dt=0620&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Terkini&pg=bt_41.htm)
Syarikat-syarikat Afrika seharusnya contohi Proton
20/06/2011 11:37pm

SHAH ALAM 20 Jun — Syarikat-syarikat Afrika yang kekurangan formula untuk menjana pertumbuhan syarikat-syarikat kecil, seharusnya mencontohi Proton Holdings Bhd yang bukan sahaja berjaya membangunkan keupayaan teknologi industri tempatan, tetapi pada masa yang sama membantu mereka untuk berkembang maju, kata seorang perwakilan Afrika yang menyertai Dialog Antarabangsa Langkawi (LID 2011).

Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Namibian Manufacturers Association, Hennie Fourie yang benar-benar kagum dengan kejayaan besar Proton berkata, kebanyakan negara Afrika ketika ini kekurangan formula untuk membawa kejayaan kepada syarikat-syarikat dalam negara masing-masing.

Beliau juga menyuarakan rasa kagum dengan keupayaan pengeluar kereta itu untuk mewujudkan ekosistem industri yang mengandungi pembekal alat-alat ganti kereta dan yang berkaitan dengan pembekal perkhidmatan.

Menurutnya, banyak negara-negara Afrika berusaha keras untuk membantu syarikat-syarikat kecil dan industri untuk berkembang menjadi entiti lebih besar.

Fourie berkata, walaupun kebanyakan kerajaan-kerajaan di benua Afrika berhasrat untuk menjana syarikat-syarikat kecil, pihak industri tidak mempunyai kemahiran yang sesuai mahupun keupayaan teknologi untuk berkembang lebih maju.

"Mereka beroperasi dalam keadaan lompang, kerana mereka tidak ada idea mengenai apa yang dapat dilakukan lagi. Kita perlu contohi Proton Holdings Bhd, syarikat besar yang berjaya, yang membantu dalam memupuk industri tempatan dan membangunkan keupayaan teknologi,” katanya kepada Bernama selepas melawat kawasan kilang Proton di sini hari ini. — Bernama


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nikka dah kata suka proton dan juga suka betul kfc.. kalau proton gabung dengan jcorp punya kfc tu untuk buat strategi pemasaran gila-gila di afrika tu rasanya tahun depan atau 2 ke 3 tahun lagi proton boleh jana untung gila-gila.. kfc malaysia antara paling berjaya sampai orang bukan nikka pun boleh gaduh2 sampai jadi isu politik.. panggil tukang masak kfc di i-city tu tunjuk skill masak dia di afrika sebagai antara strategi pemasaran kereta proton di afrika., mesti nikka tak boleh tahan punya. laugh.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Mar 1 2012, 12:54 PM)
boleh lawan.. tiada apa yang mustahil

yang penting, kena rajin keluarkan idea baru, buat banyak patent dalam industri automotif, kat jerman diaorang buat beribu patent nak tonjolkan kehebatan pendidikan kejuruteraan diaorang... mula-mula dulu adolf hitler dulu pergi cabar rakyat jerman buktikan diaorang boleh kalahkan kehebatan ilmu fizik yahudi, sementara itu di malaysia, semua orang jati diri memang tak kuat langsung.. terlalu agongkan penjajah british.


kalau kereta proton yang lawan truck ni rasanya hancur terus berkecai sebab buat kereta tak ada crash test, hanya fikir nak untung cepat je

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memang la boleh lawan..tapi.......silap strategi la.serius..kenapa sponsor merc F1?lotus F1?apa dapat?cosworth engine tech huh?tipu la
penah tak proton masuk Japan GT yg setiap tahun ada kt sepang?TAKDE..eh cmon la,kat situ betul2 nk test realibility engine/trans & platform tahu?
penah tk proton masuk DTM kt Germany?TAKDE
penah masuk LeMans?TAKDE

yg masuk F1 buat ape?pakai enjin proton ke?PTUIIIIII
memang la CFE turbocharged tu power tapi macamana nk bgtau org yg enjin tu blh survive race sampai 24jam?kau bgtau aku skarang

nasib baik korean-car pon tk penah masuk Japan GT .memang konfem tak reliable jugak korean-car ahahahhahhhahahah


Added on March 1, 2012, 1:56 pmenjin lotus F1 & merc F1 penah ada usaha nk letak enjin proton tak?
yg aku tau cosworth utk lotus..HAAKK TUUUIIIH


Added on March 1, 2012, 1:57 pmat least bmw & merc & Audi & volvo ada jugak dalm DTM race,BEDOL

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post Mar 1 2012, 02:00 PM

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lotus is sucking proton's moneh. that's why have to sell lotus
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:01 PM

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So much protection and can still lose money? Please go die lah.
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(thexs @ Mar 1 2012, 02:01 PM)
So much protection and can still lose money? Please go die lah.
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one of the reason is people like u who dont want to buy proton anymore,oh wai sweat.gif


Added on March 1, 2012, 2:03 pm
QUOTE(shazzmania @ Mar 1 2012, 02:00 PM)
lotus is sucking proton's moneh. that's why have to sell lotus
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also true,too many hanky panky

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Mar 1 2012, 02:02 PM)
one of the reason is people like u who dont want to buy proton anymore,oh wai sweat.gif
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I'd appreciate your enthusiasm and imaginary virtue but it merely passed off as a weak and pretentious attempt to make yourself believe you're better than others.

How on earth did that presumption of me not buying a Proton come about? Also, "people who don't want to buy a Proton" must have strong valid reasons to do so considering the massive price difference between Protons and imports of similar segments in this country.

Bring your shit elsewhere, douche.
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(thexs @ Mar 1 2012, 02:06 PM)
I'd appreciate your enthusiasm and imaginary virtue but it merely passed off as a weak and pretentious attempt to make yourself believe you're better than others.

How on earth did that presumption of me not buying a Proton come about? Also, "people who don't want to buy a Proton" must have strong valid reasons to do so considering the massive price difference between Protons and imports of similar segments in this country.

Bring your shit elsewhere, douche.
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thats one of the reason la,douche.korean cars are flooding the market now
there are many reasons & thats 1 of them
dont narrow down your pea-like brain


Added on March 1, 2012, 2:09 pm& u think korean cars are better realibility than protons?any proof?many real-life proves shows otherwise


Added on March 1, 2012, 2:09 pmor have u even check the spare parts price of korean cars & compare it side-by-side with proton one?HAHAHAHAAH

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post Mar 1 2012, 02:11 PM

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post Mar 1 2012, 02:17 PM

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monopolized business pun failed whistling.gif

you must construct mintak additional pylons tongkats
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post Mar 1 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Mar 1 2012, 01:03 PM)
Proton idea Dr Mahathir.tapi yang jadi CEO orang lain. laugh.gif i think Honda and Toyota founded and organize by same person. sweat.gif
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this is what happen if you combine business and politic. pikir poket sendiri jek. sorry to say, looking to the current situation, proton will have hard time to recover/compete with other auto competitor. the damage is done.
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QUOTE(geisha @ Mar 1 2012, 04:56 PM)
this is what happen if you combine business and politic. pikir poket sendiri jek. sorry to say, looking to the current situation, proton will have hard time to recover/compete with other auto competitor. the damage is done.
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eh jangan cakap camtu, nanti e36 marah.

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