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post Jun 6 2012, 09:05 PM

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Hi all, may i know how you ppl think about this raspberry pi device ?
Want to know if it runs stable for 24/7 operation, is it possible to use it as a media player by writing application and let it run ? hows the video and audio quality, how long for it to boot up and how long it will run if i run it on 6v (4x1.5v) AA batteries. Thanks.
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post Jun 7 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Jun 6 2012, 11:42 PM)
i think it wont last running on AAs.
maybe u can use those "power-bank" gadget charger. come with usb, easier to connect..
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not assuming it will last long, just a method to continue to power it when power is cut for a short while, as i know the unit doesnt have clock, and many things will only run well if the clock is ok.


Added on June 7, 2012, 10:57 pmHmm they still have production problem, any1 know when they will able to supply the entire market?

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post Jun 12 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jun 10 2012, 11:06 PM)
Or maybe you can try this? DiY other Lego or other material. Who bring this sexy Pi in Malaysia?
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officially u can only get off element14, or RS-online, u cant directly order them, u need to fill in a form, they will notice you when its your turn to order 1 unit, and yes 1 unit, then only u place your order of 1 unit. ppl is expecting nobody will be able to buy large quantity within few months time from now.
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post Jun 16 2012, 01:20 PM

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who has completed done research and willing to sell off your pi ?
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post Jun 17 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(fluotone @ Jun 17 2012, 08:22 AM)
this is an amazing device. anyone here selling it yet?
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only element14 and RS-online officially selling them, and minimum order 1 unit maximum order also 1 unit, so i dont think ppl will have many, unless u spam create account, cheating method. i think u need to wait at least 1 month after u order b4 it arrive. currently the demand for the pi is much greater than it can produce, so dont expect much of them flowing in the free market.
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post Jun 17 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(fluotone @ Jun 17 2012, 02:19 PM)
IMHO they should mass produce it, I think the cost can be even lower that way.
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lol its not that easy, there are hundreds or thousands of parts on that small board, and each of them need to exactly the same, and its consider a charity project, the foundation isnt making money off any board produced, its the factory that makes money, but since the price is limited to a specified number, its not that easy to say mass produce. every factory on earth, unless they are going to bankrupt soon, they have order for the next few months, ppl rest, but machine wont rest, they run non-stop 24/7.

if you give them a schematic, and order like 100k unit, u need to give them a big sum of money for them to get parts and prepare a machine time slot for you, do not assume that they have all the parts, and ordering parts means parts from another factory, on the other side of the planet, and they need to work out your order too, which might leads to need part that from another factory from the other side of the planet. if you played game like that b4 you will know its not that simple, component within component within component, they arent a motherboard company which those company got a huge stock of almost all possible components like capacitor, slots, boards, etc, raspberry got nothing, they just started up and selling 3 months ago, they never did any project like that b4, they lack of experience, contact, relation, etc. It is very difficult to just say mass produce if your order isnt going to let factory make alot of profit.
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post Jun 17 2012, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(fluotone @ Jun 17 2012, 04:23 PM)
But then good things like this should be encouraged.. Understood your point there.. Mass overhead cost involved and unrealistic profits to the factories are some of the issues for mass production.

Its times like these I wished I am an owner of a factory. Doesn't matter as long as it pays back the operating cost im fine already.

Hopefully i can get my hands on one and install my favorite linux distro on it tongue.gif
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so u willing to ignore to do a project which is very rush but can make you a nice profit instead of doing a charity project which just enough to cover everything ? even u are the boss, its hard to make that decision, as workers knows they suppose to have bonus this year, but instead of doing what a boss suppose to do, u did charity, u happy, your workers arent.
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post Jun 18 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:27 PM)
unless someone able to get license from Raspberry PI and mass produce them~ then everyone will b happi brows.gif
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i think RPi is willing to give that, but the problem is profit per board is too low i guess.
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:10 PM)
Wah, want to order lah. Hehe... Good for HTPC, linuxing or light weight game.
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U need to know how to configure that, and it comes with no casing, I think that is a big issue for most common users.


Added on June 18, 2012, 10:20 pmAnybody plans to make casing for this Pi? I mean seriously Metal or plastic casing for sell along with Pi.

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post Jun 19 2012, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jun 18 2012, 10:38 PM)
I too was invited by element14 to order recently...can't wait to start tinkering.

totally noob with linux too, been with windows and dos since 80's!
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Same here, my 1st pc was a 286, with windows 3.11, ms dos 3.3 or 5, still remember the funny sound reading a 1.2MB diskette or the tone modem card used to connect to Internet. Those days won't come again.

I'm new to Linux too, forced to learn as company want me involve in a project, within few months I think either I failed big time or pro d =p
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post Jun 20 2012, 04:51 PM

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anybody doing a ppstream pi ? =P
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:54 AM

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Got 2 units of Pi today, my colleague purchased and let me play 1st =p lucky me. The sound driver doesnt work outta the box, need to spend some time to get sound work, and it's not perfect yet, I think Pi isn't consider as a totally finished product, at least still got some improvement need to be done here and there.
So my code that uses pygame doesn't work as smooth as expected, hope they can patch the unit fast enough and perfect it.
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post Jun 27 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 27 2012, 07:54 PM)
Shit... my order has been postponed by weeks... after months of waiting

damm u RS  vmad.gif
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was thinking to bulk purchase these, seems like not possible within months.
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post Jul 6 2012, 03:08 AM

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Been using Debian for a while now on Pi, the sound works terriblely, ppl in the forum said its the driver problem and it should be fixed, but no date given, any distro got sound working perfectly? Btw I'm using 3.5 mm jack so not from HDMI. Thanks.


Added on July 6, 2012, 3:24 am
QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jul 3 2012, 11:28 AM)
I use htc charger. But yes you can use iphone charger as well, better would be ipad charger with higher amp rating.

I almost bought a iphone adapter, but its 28 plus another usb/micro usb cable which is another 25 bucks in my local phone shop... so I gave up.

Anyone know of cheap online vendor selling those?

Just keep in mind, it is a 5 v 700A - 1.3A micro usb, not mini usb.
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I think u mean 5v 700mA and what is that 1.3A? Im running it for day's taking power from my powered USB hub, it draw about 4watt (I got a power meter) extra from the adapter. As long as your adapter can provide minimum of 1A, everything should be fine, and if u doesn't overclock or drawing too much power from its USB, u even can run it from USB2 port direct from PC, which only offer 500mA max, if it doesn't have enough power, u will notice your network starting to have problem. USB3 will be enough as it gives 900mA. MicroUSB cable, u can easily get from any shops that sell phone or their accessories. Even some computer shop sell them.


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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jul 6 2012, 09:07 PM)
yeah... typo... the pi has a small piece of paper saying 700mA to 1.3A.

5V Multiple by 1A is 5 watt. All those shops that I went to buy the micro usb cable... wanted like 25ringgit for it... wtf....and the adapter is another 45 RM... unless you buy a cheap imitation iphone adapter... which is like also 25 RM...

sure can easily get those things... but do you trust the voltage?? and do you want nose bleed paying those price?

Surely, if you have friends who have old adapters they no longer need, sure can buy for 5 rm... and cable too!!!
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The raspberry Pi FAQ said it will run well from 4 AA batteries, so that's 6.x volt for new batteries and 4.8V when they are about to die, so I guess it can do some voltage regulation. Like I say, u just need micro USB cable, power it from a USB3. If RM45 for an adapter, I would buy a slightly better powered USB hub which cost about RM30, I'm using 1 of this, multi purpose, can use as a hub and can power the Pi, err power a few Pi =p. mine comes with 2A adapter and 7 USB ports, oh btw its charging my iPad and HTC wildfire as I type and few USB devices plugged in, I say this is a much better choice.


Added on July 7, 2012, 1:00 amI have to add, for Pi, they only have 1 or 2 USB, the USB hub seriously help a lot when u need to connect 3 things or more onto Pi, like keyboard, mouse and a USB flash drive for some data in or out.

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post Jul 7 2012, 06:14 PM

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forgot where i brought it, i have 2 of it, 1 at home and 1 at office, now im in office, i hot glued it onto table, home, i hot glued that onto wall, all i remember it cost about RM30, forgot where i brought from, maybe digimall(cause my office is near there and 50% of computer things i have from it).

* you must get a powered usb hub, not a hub without a power adapter, as if you want to use it to charge or power devices, adapter is a must. mine comes with 2A adapter.

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post Jul 8 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jul 8 2012, 11:57 AM)
have you tried to connect usb flash drive and/or usb harddrive to you pi?

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HDD no, flash drive yes, you need to 'mount' outside X.

plug in your flash/drive
do a
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sudo fdisk -l

the last character is L
to list out all partition

then create a folder in your pi(SD), ie
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sudo mkdir /pen


then mount your drive to the folder, for SD, it should be 1 of those, thats shooting blindly, for accurate, check the fdisk -l result
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sudo mount /dev/sda /pen
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /pen
sudo mount /dev/sdb /pen
sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /pen


for HDD, you need to know that the maximum power output from pi is 100mA, its NOT enough to make your HDD work, unless thats a SSD(may still not work), so you need to power it from external power source.

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jul 8 2012, 04:35 PM)
Thanks so much. Jotted down those cmd.

anyhow, if harddisk, is daisy chained via the powered usb hub should be ok?
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Should be ok, many ppl used that, but u will need to use sudo fdisk -l to see what is the mount point name for your HD, won't be /dev/sd??
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post Jul 10 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(quikstep @ Jul 10 2012, 01:26 PM)
anyone spot this in any shop?
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not yet, but i predict in half years time, many shop will got this, but not for sale.

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post Aug 1 2012, 11:44 PM

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My company got the bulk delivery today, only took half a month, very fast !

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