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QUOTE(slimyboy @ Feb 21 2013, 12:25 PM)
My 2 year warranty JUST finished. My headset is only a few weeks over 2 years old. The sound on the right ear cup is still perfect. I'm sure it's a wiring problem. And yeah I wasn't looking for a steelseries wiring shop haha just any random repair shop will do sad.gif.
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i dont know normal wiring shop could fix the problem. i suggest you get a new headset. go for 7H.. it's one awesome looking headset with a great sounds.


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QUOTE(Nagashiro @ Feb 21 2013, 01:13 PM)
I tried out Sensei and definitely it is one awesome mouse. The weight and the shape are just perfect.

I wonder does the RAW had almost the same sensor, thinking of getting a RAW or full Sensei .. ANy idea?
The frost blue RAW does look awesome.
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iirc, the sensor in the normal sensei and the sensei raw is the same, which is the Avago ADNS-9500. the difference between the normal and raw is the presence of the ARM processor.
sensei mlg comes with a slightly newer sensor, Avago ADNS-9800.

also, the [raw] version does not include exacttech.

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QUOTE(Nagashiro @ Feb 21 2013, 01:13 PM)
I tried out Sensei and definitely it is one awesome mouse. The weight and the shape are just perfect.

I wonder does the RAW had almost the same sensor, thinking of getting a RAW or full Sensei .. ANy idea?
The frost blue RAW does look awesome.
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Sensei RAW is NOTHING like Sensei.

Nuff said.

Add another 100 bucks with no regrets tongue.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 21 2013, 04:21 PM)
Sensei RAW is NOTHING like Sensei.

Nuff said.

Add another 100 bucks with no regrets  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 21 2013, 04:21 PM)
Sensei RAW is NOTHING like Sensei.

Nuff said.

Add another 100 bucks with no regrets  tongue.gif
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i think you guys should go into details regarding the "whys" and "hows".

since, a 100bucks isnt a small amount after all.

as i said before, the sensei and the sensei [raw] both boast the avago ands-9500, omron switches. the only thing that the [raw] version lacks when compared to the full fledge sensei is the 32-bit arm processor, and also the exacttech feature.

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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Feb 21 2013, 07:06 PM)
i think you guys should go into details regarding the "whys" and "hows".

since, a 100bucks isnt a small amount after all.

as i said before, the sensei and the sensei [raw] both boast the avago ands-9500, omron switches. the only thing that the [raw] version lacks when compared to the full fledge sensei is the 32-bit arm processor, and also the exacttech feature.
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No offense but dont be such a nerd.

Who cares about the statistics and figures? I've owned both mice before, I know the differences and what it lacks and what it can do. So no one really cares about what they put inside. Its the matter of how we feel about it.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 21 2013, 08:37 PM)
No offense but dont be such a nerd.

Who cares about the statistics and figures? I've owned both mice before, I know the differences and what it lacks and what it can do. So no one really cares about what they put inside. Its the matter of how we feel about it.
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no offence but dont be such an airhead.

who cares? most likely the person that is going to spend 200/300bucks, perhaps you might want to put in a little more consideration before sprouting something like "it feels good". since, taking into the account where one man's meat is another man's poison.

" I know the differences"

exactly, it is exactly because you have owned and used both these before, you are able to give him a slightly more in depth reason as to why sensei feels better than sensei raw. as the weight, shape and size is exactly the same. it is something i am not able to do since i am only using the standard sensei, so the only thing i can enlighten him with is with the hardware(pay heed, no where in my post did i mentioned any numerical figures and statistics).
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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Feb 21 2013, 09:41 PM)
no offence but dont be such an airhead.

who cares? most likely the person that is going to spend 200/300bucks, perhaps you might want to put in a little more consideration before sprouting something like "it feels good". since, taking into the account where one man's meat is another man's poison.

" I know the differences"

exactly, it is exactly because you have owned and used both these before, you are able to give him a slightly more in depth reason as to why sensei feels better than sensei raw. as the weight, shape and size is exactly the same. it is something i am not able to do since i am only using the standard sensei, so the only thing i can enlighten him with is with the hardware(pay heed, no where in my post did i mentioned any numerical figures and statistics).
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Again.

Truth is, one cannot just judge something based on statistical factors or whatever chip or processors it currently possess. It is based on personal judgments. One cannot give opinions on something when one never experienced personally before. So long story cut short, take a Kana for example. Look at the specs, pretty decent. Hands on, probably the worst mouse Steelseries ever produced.

One's budget is not for you to question. If one can afford to spend even more than RM50 on a mouse, that does not consider it to be cheap because a standard basic mouse will only require less than RM10, after all, it does what it serves best, a mouse. Again, if one has a budget for something, they should purchase what is within their budget. An extra ideas would not hurt, no one is pointing a finger at you and force to overspend. If you live within your budget, by all means just stick to it. Any proof that I've forced him into considering the Sensei over RAW? Get your facts right thanks. It feels good. Based on my personal opinion. Are there any rules stating that personal opinions are not welcomed? What surveyors need is personal experience, not based on some nerdy specs to numerical rubbish.

Tell me, a Sensei can do 11k CPI, will you utilize the full 11k CPI?

Simple. You'll use your preferred CPI.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 21 2013, 10:02 PM)
Again.

Truth is, one cannot just judge something based on statistical factors or whatever chip or processors it currently possess. It is based on personal judgments. One cannot give opinions on something when one never experienced personally before. So long story cut short, take a Kana for example. Look at the specs, pretty decent. Hands on, probably the worst mouse Steelseries ever produced.

One's budget is not for you to question. If one can afford to spend even more than RM50 on a mouse, that does not consider it to be cheap because a standard basic mouse will only require less than RM10, after all, it does what it serves best, a mouse. Again, if one has a budget for something, they should purchase what is within their budget. An extra ideas would not hurt, no one is pointing a finger at you and force to overspend. If you live within your budget, by all means just stick to it. Any proof that I've forced him into considering the Sensei over RAW? Get your facts right thanks. It feels good. Based on my personal opinion. Are there any rules stating that personal opinions are not welcomed? What surveyors need is personal experience, not based on some nerdy specs to numerical rubbish.

Tell me, a Sensei can do 11k CPI, will you utilize the full 11k CPI?

Simple. You'll use your preferred CPI.
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I dont question your level of understanding, most likely, with the benefit of the doubt to you, we arent on the same page.
However, allow me to clear it up for you. yes, you are correct, one might not be able to wholly judge something based on just hardware(once again, no such statistics have been brought up) alone. Though, it is exactly because of this current specific case where a question was raised seeking information due to the lack of resource that a presentation of a list of hardware involved to assist in his decision making, which this entire case is about.
Your example, runs faulty, reason being? the pixart sensor in the kana is already known to be slightly problematic. Hands on? shape and size might feel good for ones with hands compatible of its size. Following this example, knowing some hardware might have just saved someone the trouble of dealing with the problematic sensor, either that, or he/she would just deal with it. "probably the worst mouse Steelseries ever produced"? exactly, being one man's meat is another man's poison, as some people on the internet would still swear by the mice in question.

"One cannot give opinions on something when one never experienced personally before"
Specifically basing on this sentence, the one who asked the question have already had a feel of the mice, and he raised the question about the hardware. Therefore, again, basing on this situation, a list of hardware will most likely do him some good in terms of decision making.

Understandably, one's financial budget would be rude for anyone to question, however, making light of it is not too far off. My friend, the one who asked the question have already stated that he is considering between a standard sensei, or a raw, so the notion of weighing these two mice in question, is within the perimeters of "by all means just stick to it" if you were paying any attention at all. Proof as to you're forcing the standard sensei into his hands? Why prove anything when i have not accused you of that deed at all in the first place, "Get your facts right thanks" would apply here precisely.

"It feels good. Based on my personal opinion. Are there any rules stating that personal opinions are not welcomed? What surveyors need is personal experience, not based on some nerdy specs to numerical rubbish. "

Exactly. What people need is personal experience, and a short and simple "it feels good", dont really cut it. As i once said before, at the very least the "whys" and the "hows", for your personal opinion to hold any ground to assist in his decisions as to where his preference lies between the two, adding into the point "one man's meat is another's poison". As to hardware specifications, if you dont look it while shopping for something, i wont question the way you do things.

"Tell me, a Sensei can do 11k CPI, will you utilize the full 11k CPI?

Simple. You'll use your preferred CPI."

Indeed. I am astonished as you how you would not apply this common sense in all areas, if you did, all this would be unnecessary.
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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Feb 21 2013, 10:46 PM)
I dont question your level of understanding, most likely, with the benefit of the doubt to you, we arent on the same page.
However, allow me to clear it up for you. yes, you are correct, one might not be able to wholly judge something based on just hardware(once again, no such statistics have been brought up) alone. Though, it is exactly because of this current specific case where a question was raised seeking information due to the lack of resource that a presentation of a list of hardware involved to assist in his decision making, which this entire case is about.
Your example, runs faulty, reason being? the pixart sensor in the kana is already known to be slightly problematic. Hands on? shape and size might feel good for ones with hands compatible of its size. Following this example, knowing some hardware might have just saved someone the trouble of dealing with the problematic sensor, either that, or he/she would just deal with it. "probably the worst mouse Steelseries ever produced"? exactly, being one man's meat is another man's poison, as some people on the internet would still swear by the mice in question.

"One cannot give opinions on something when one never experienced personally before"
Specifically basing on this sentence, the one who asked the question have already had a feel of the mice, and he raised the question about the hardware. Therefore, again, basing on this situation, a list of hardware will most likely do him some good in terms of decision making.

Understandably, one's financial budget would be rude for anyone to question, however, making light of it is not too far off. My friend, the one who asked the question have already stated that he is considering between a standard sensei, or a raw, so the notion of weighing these two mice in question, is within the perimeters of "by all means just stick to it" if you were paying any attention at all. Proof as to you're forcing the standard sensei into his hands? Why prove anything when i have not accused you of that deed at all in the first place, "Get your facts right thanks" would apply here precisely.

"It feels good. Based on my personal opinion. Are there any rules stating that personal opinions are not welcomed? What surveyors need is personal experience, not based on some nerdy specs to numerical rubbish. "

Exactly. What people need is personal experience, and a short and simple "it feels good", dont really cut it. As i once said before, at the very least the "whys" and the "hows", for your personal opinion to hold any ground to assist in his decisions as to where his preference lies between the two, adding into the point "one man's meat is another's poison". As to hardware specifications, if you dont look it while shopping for something, i wont question the way you do things.

"Tell me, a Sensei can do 11k CPI, will you utilize the full 11k CPI?

Simple. You'll use your preferred CPI."

Indeed. I am astonished as you how you would not apply this common sense in all areas, if you did, all this would be unnecessary.
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So now I see you are moving towards personal attacks. Nice touch.

I'm sorry but I am not your friend. Please do not use 'my friend' on me. So basically you buy something just by looking and comparing at specs without trying it first hand? Astonishing. I wonder in future if you buy a car on your own, you'll just purchase a car based on specs and not trying out before making a cognitive buying decision. Wise move.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what information is fed to him. He can conduct his own research and find whichever mouse suits him best. But what bothers me is your previous statement:

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as i said before, the sensei and the sensei [raw] both boast the avago ands-9500, omron switches. the only thing that the [raw] version lacks when compared to the full fledge sensei is the 32-bit arm processor, and also the exacttech feature.


Both Sensei and Sensei RAW are using Omron switches. But RAW's switch requires more force to accurately press it downwards while the Sensei only requires a small amount of force. Both are Omron switches. What say you? Based on your findings, would you mind explaining this? Even your so called theories will not give you an answer because you have not experienced the RAW before, therefore in conclusion, try it before you jump into conclusions.


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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Feb 20 2013, 09:17 PM)
i dont own one. however, was interested in getting one cause i think the size really fits my hand. unfortunately, i changed my mind and went for the sensei due to some shortcomings of the kana, mainly the sensor. wouldnt want to dish out an amount of money just to purchase a problematic sensor.

kana isnt using omron switches but lower quality switches by TTC.
the sensor(Pixart PAN3305DK-H) where it occasionally locks up.

though, if you really like the shape, and there isnt any other that can compete with its form factor, go for it i guess. :/
ergonomic vs ambidextrous

like technog said, g400 would be superior in terms of value for money. assuming you prefer an ergonomic shape that is.
will remind myself to update on sensei mlg's condition at the end of this month then.
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keep us posted
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QUOTE(Sup2Nic @ Feb 21 2013, 07:37 AM)
yes.. foldable & using it for my lappy.
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u fold it? no folding signs? mine get straight white line

QUOTE(slimyboy @ Feb 21 2013, 10:23 AM)
Any idea where I can look for a wiring repair shop? My Siberia V2 warranty JUST ran out and my left ear cup has no sound now sad.gif.
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PcWork offers rm150 for recabling..
i suggest you go buy a new one

QUOTE(slimyboy @ Feb 21 2013, 11:25 AM)
My 2 year warranty JUST finished. My headset is only a few weeks over 2 years old. The sound on the right ear cup is still perfect. I'm sure it's a wiring problem. And yeah I wasn't looking for a steelseries wiring shop haha just any random repair shop will do sad.gif.
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1 year warranty local
2 year international
since changed distri..dont know the status now

QUOTE(Nagashiro @ Feb 21 2013, 12:13 PM)
I tried out Sensei and definitely it is one awesome mouse. The weight and the shape are just perfect.

I wonder does the RAW had almost the same sensor, thinking of getting a RAW or full Sensei .. ANy idea?
The frost blue RAW does look awesome.
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depends all on your budget

QUOTE(tennytyy @ Feb 21 2013, 08:28 PM)
Just got myself a qck mini dota 2 edition, really like it, very smooth and silky surface biggrin.gif
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enjoy ur new pad laugh.gif


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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 21 2013, 11:04 PM)
So now I see you are moving towards personal attacks. Nice touch.

I'm sorry but I am not your friend. Please do not use 'my friend' on me. So basically you buy something just by looking and comparing at specs without trying it first hand? Astonishing. I wonder in future if you buy a car on your own, you'll just purchase a car based on specs and not trying out before making a cognitive buying decision. Wise move.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what information is fed to him. He can conduct his own research and find whichever mouse suits him best. But what bothers me is your previous statement:
Both Sensei and Sensei RAW are using Omron switches. But RAW's switch requires more force to accurately press it downwards while the Sensei only requires a small amount of force. Both are Omron switches. What say you? Based on your findings, would you mind explaining this? Even your so called theories will not give you an answer because you have not experienced the RAW before, therefore in conclusion, try it before you jump into conclusions.
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Personal attacks? I apologize, to my own defence, i am merely responding towards the way you are conducting yourself towards me. I honestly hope you understand what i just said, though, i will refrain myself from hoping too much, taking into consideration, not too fruitful.

Of course, it is a figure of speech, please, it is only common.
"So basically you buy something just by looking and comparing at specs without trying it first hand? Astonishing. I wonder in future if you buy a car on your own, you'll just purchase a car based on specs and not trying out before making a cognitive buying decision. Wise move."
I have no idea what of the above that you have read would have possibly caused you to respond with this. Perhaps, we are "literally" not on the same page at all. Couldnt be, that in itself would be comedy.

Disturbing, you gave a respond to his question, and now you say it doesnt matter what information is being given to him. Correct me if i am wrong, he is however in a way conducting his own research by testing out the mice, asking questions regarding hardware, and lastly, asking for opinions.
Exactly, it is this kind of answer that deserves time. An answer that i cannot provide as i have said before, i have not tried one, i can only but, humbly list out the hardware specifications for him, hoping that it would be the least bit helpful. However, to respond to your question, both are proton cars, both are razer products, both are steelseries products, what say you? Once again, i hope you actually understand what i am attempting to indicate.
Theories? I have yet to provide any such theories which you speak of, the things i list, are factual, for they are physical products, and not theoretical. Conclusion jumping? Forgive me, i dont see myself jumping to any sort of conclusion, all that i have, is pointed out that both mice use switches manufactured by Omron, that is all.


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keep us posted
do come up with a picture
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haha, hoping that the day i report on peeling would never come.

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phone camera quality. blush.gif

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yea mine has a little bit white mark on my QcK but.. since i fold it gently everytime so not so much biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Feb 21 2013, 11:31 PM)
Personal attacks? I apologize, to my own defence, i am merely responding towards the way you are conducting yourself towards me. I honestly hope you understand what i just said, though, i will refrain myself from hoping too much, taking into consideration, not too fruitful.

Of course, it is a figure of speech, please, it is only common.
"So basically you buy something just by looking and comparing at specs without trying it first hand? Astonishing. I wonder in future if you buy a car on your own, you'll just purchase a car based on specs and not trying out before making a cognitive buying decision. Wise move."
I have no idea what of the above that you have read would have possibly caused you to respond with this. Perhaps, we are "literally" not on the same page at all. Couldnt be, that in itself would be comedy.

Disturbing, you gave a respond to his question, and now you say it doesnt matter what information is being given to him. Correct me if i am wrong, he is however in a way conducting his own research by testing out the mice, asking questions regarding hardware, and lastly, asking for opinions.
Exactly, it is this kind of answer that deserves time. An answer that i cannot provide as i have said before, i have not tried one, i can only but, humbly list out the hardware specifications for him, hoping that it would be the least bit helpful. However, to respond to your question, both are proton cars, both are razer products, both are steelseries products, what say you? Once again, i hope you actually understand what i am attempting to indicate.
Theories? I have yet to provide any such theories which you speak of, the things i list, are factual, for they are physical products, and not theoretical. Conclusion jumping? Forgive me, i dont see myself jumping to any sort of conclusion, all that i have, is pointed out that both mice use switches manufactured by Omron, that is all.

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Perhaps you don't get what I am comparing. Read deeper.

Again, you've avoided my question. How can you explain the differences of the same type of switch? Both Omron, same types. One softer, one is harder. Based on your so called 'statistics', kindly explain the reason for the occurrence of such issue?

I don't see in which point of my statement influenced his buying behavior. I was merely stating my opinions, he have every right to ignore and continue with his research. Would it be a sin to state your opinions? Never occurred to me. Who are you to judge one's opinion? Who are you to question one's opinion?

If you believe that your way convincing one's purchase behavior is to throw unrelated technical information to the end user, I rest my case then.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 21 2013, 11:55 PM)
Perhaps you don't get what I am comparing. Read deeper.

Again, you've avoided my question. How can you explain the differences of the same type of switch? Both Omron, same types. One softer, one is harder. Based on your so called 'statistics', kindly explain the reason for the occurrence  of such issue?

I don't see in which point of my statement influenced his buying behavior. I was merely stating my opinions, he have every right to ignore and continue with his research. Would it be a sin to state your opinions? Never occurred to me. Who are you to judge one's opinion? Who are you to question one's opinion?

If you believe that your way convincing one's purchase behavior is to throw unrelated technical information to the end user, I rest my case then.
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I dont believe this is seriously real. Un. Real.

Likewise, i rest my case, apparently, we "literally" are not on the same page at all.

Perhaps you don't get what I am indicating. Read deeper.

Cheers.
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Hi all.. Wanna ask some question regarding my newly bought steelseries kinzu mouse.. It is the black version which is rubber coated around the surface(I guess).. I'm not really sure is the rubber melted or what.. Can anyone tell me what problem is this? Can I claim warranty from the SS?

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QUOTE(mervin8706 @ Feb 23 2013, 07:16 PM)
Hi all.. Wanna ask some question regarding my newly bought steelseries kinzu mouse.. It is the black version which is rubber coated around the surface(I guess).. I'm not really sure is the rubber melted or what.. Can anyone tell me what problem is this? Can I claim warranty from the SS?
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QUOTE(mervin8706 @ Feb 23 2013, 06:16 PM)
Hi all.. Wanna ask some question regarding my newly bought steelseries kinzu mouse.. It is the black version which is rubber coated around the surface(I guess).. I'm not really sure is the rubber melted or what.. Can anyone tell me what problem is this? Can I claim warranty from the SS?
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how long you bought it?
IMHO you cant claim warranty for it
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how long you bought it?
IMHO you cant claim warranty for it
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i just bought today with a lowyat user.. but after telling him he able to change one new for me =)

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