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ozak
post Apr 22 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pegasus88 @ Apr 22 2012, 09:45 PM)
possible to use poly pipe for house interior conceal in wall ?
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No problem.
ozak
post Apr 23 2012, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(solame @ Apr 23 2012, 10:44 AM)
@ozak: just saw your post in another thread, you are installing a pump into your current installation.
Actually for my case, I yet to move into my new house, not sure if the water pressure is low or not. After moved in, if cannot accept the water pressure only will add on pump. How should i lay my piping after tank, to "prepare for future pump installation"? From tank branch out 3 pipes to bathrooms now? Or, from tank branch out 1no 1" pipe then only split to 3 nos 3/4" pipe for 3 bathrooms? Mean, before install pump, all bathrooms sharing common inlet. If so, my bathrooms' water pressure without pump will sure low!??

So, don't "prepare for pump" now, isit? When need pump only ask installer to modify piping on the roof?
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It is easy method to check if your bathroom have good pressure or not. Ask your plumber to put a gauge on the tap and read what is the psi/bar. Anything above 40psi is good enough. This is general pressure maintain and suggest by forumner here. From here you can know pump or no pump. No need wait.

If don't want pump first, 3 hole from tank and 3 1" pipe to bathroom. Later want pump, just chop of and cap the pipe from tank. PVC pipe easy to modify and change.


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post Apr 24 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Apr 24 2012, 08:58 AM)
Where can I get those Gauge? planning to get one to play around.  tongue.gif  Also, how much does it cost anyway?
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Probably can get it at those plumbing hardware shop or those selling tools like compressor air equipment. Not normal hardware shop. Another is at shah alam. Selling pneumatic equipment. Google for SMC.

My working place have a lot this gauge lying around. Curi 1 put in my home too.
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(solame @ Apr 24 2012, 09:03 AM)
Something wrong with existing pipelines. Open tap but no water, plumber said "masuk angin". So, can't know how good the pressure is now.
Then i opt to re-do pipelines, using poly pipe. Since modify pipeline in future when installing a pump cost $$ as need to engage plumber again, i hope to reduce that cost and hassle...
As I said, working on PVC pipe is easy. If your plumber tell you PVC difficult to modify, it is bullshit.

If you put in a pump too, you still need to modify it to relocate your pipe. Depend how your plumber install it. It still cost you.

Another problem is, if you instal 1 main pipe out 1" and branch to 3 pipe without the pump, you will possible facing flow volume and pressure if all your bathroom using.

The best is, install the pump now. Since you redo the pipeline. It save your cost for plumbing since your plumber redo the pipe. The pump cost is small compare your renovate.


Added on April 24, 2012, 9:27 am
QUOTE(mhhee @ Apr 24 2012, 09:13 AM)
SMC Pneumatics (SEA) Sdn Bhd (HQ)
Lot 36, Jalan Delima 1 /1,       
Subang Hi-Tech Industrial Park,
Batu Tiga, 40000 Shah Alam,
Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.

This one? Lotsa Gauge lying around? Can curi & sell to us?  tongue.gif
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Yup. That is the address. I m not sure you can buy cash. But they do have counter walk in customer. We buy alot of thing from them. But terms.

Can get it for you from my working place. If you don't mind 2nd. It is for air. But can use on fluid. Provided no water hammering.

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post Apr 25 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(solame @ Apr 25 2012, 09:19 AM)
Thanks a lot. This is simple. I am yet to make up my mind if to install a pump.

Feasibility study:
double storey c/w 3baths. Will frequently use 1st floor's bath only. GF's toilet will be for visitor. So, will temporary install 1no water heater (with pump) for the house.
Price difference for water heater with and without pump is around RM 250.
To buy and install a Grundfos pump now RM 1.5k.
=>Not feasible to install pump.

But if i "gamble", combine tomjason and ozak's piping map, MAY BE i do not need to install a pump at all.
may be... still 15 16...
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Actually the piping is the same with my drawing. It is still 3 bathroom pipe out from the tank. Not 1 pipe and branch to 3pipe.

You need to know how tall is your tank from your 2nd floor if you cannot using the gauge to check the pressure.
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post Apr 25 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(mywii @ Apr 25 2012, 09:45 AM)
how tall is ideal?
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There is no specific lenght. The tallest the better. But need to include the consideration of the pipe size, tank size and the pipe bending too. All this will contribute to pressure reduce.
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post Apr 28 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(solame @ Apr 27 2012, 11:26 PM)
@ozak: what kind of check valve you using? Brass swing check valve? Checked with hardware shop, 1" approx. RM20+ per pc. not expensive. "i” brand. can't find other brand. any recommendations?
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There is only 1 type. I dont no how does swing check valve look like. Any brand will do. Check valve is very common part. Just like pipe fitting part only.
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post Sep 2 2013, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(tom_kkh @ Sep 2 2013, 03:46 PM)
hi guys,

I am also using the basic water filter bought from giant but they always seems to "explore" after every 3-4 months..

I am not sure what happen and if you can share how to install these filters properly.

I see a red button on top and every time i press it, there are air coming out of it, is it normal?

suspect it busted become of the air build up in it.

thanks for advise.
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Whay you mean of "explore" ?

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