...would like to know what will be the SQ be if I opt for 4" component only instead of the popular 6.5 range? this is due not to drill any hole or to modifying my car doors that is w/o any oem speaker but at the dashboard top:(

can advise, all sifu

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bro, you kiddin me yah...anyway, thks for the feedback, appreciated ...maybe in another 5yrs i can own one of them since i already in my mid-40s & can invite you to audit the "SQ quality sound straight out from the factory", your statement

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Added on February 22, 2012, 6:44 pmHi MYWifeCar, have you ever come across (i think you know my rides yah ) that instead of opting for a better made 4" coaxial speaker eg Alpine G, how about a good 4" component speakers install back at the ori location?

This post has been edited by superdeemon: Feb 22 2012, 06:44 PM

I audit those cars before, I prefer my car.

If you ask me, I think component or coaxial do have their difference but will need to setup properly to hear the difference.

Component get my vote, but since I still have coaxial to clear.... coaxial also get my vote too.

haha, well said of not siding any 4" users & as well as 6.5 component players yah ...however, upon analyzing your statement , i think i know my choice now

gettin a good 4" comp for the front is more ideal than installing at the rear.
meaning alwiz provide the best for the front(spent more money for the front and rear much less or use back OEM)
reason being we are not trying to setup a surround sound like home AV systems. its a car hifi.

the rear does help the front, by providing more ambience and bigger imaging feel. but ur not suppose to hear any vocal comin from the rear.this is done by tuning.

the right way but costly affair :
front and rear shd have same speakers component

why?
cause each speaker has its own character, hence having a same comps for front + rear will blend easily.

hope it answer ur question

Sorry, your question earlier was on 4". But you did ask 4" or 6.5" is better, definitely 6.5" for the front. ... . Just that you will need to sacrifice the front door, but to me, definitely worth it.

yea, i'll just playing the front, no rear as i'll not want any distortion:) agreed this 4" component set maybe paying premier than opting for a 4" coaxial speaker

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Added on February 23, 2012, 7:13 am guess my new rides is not ready yet for any cutting here or there, can't see to it although 6.5 should be better than a smaller 4 for serious ICING on the juice!

For meantime, 4" comp is the way to go for me tks guys!

This post has been edited by superdeemon: Feb 23 2012, 07:13 AM

get the 4" component set... once your are ready to cut the doors for 6.5". get a 6.5" mid bass...

walla... you will then have a 3-way front setup...

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brilliant lol

ok, but how about something quite near to yours both (& also another sifu's sound advice) but still adamant to keep my door as virgin as new which i know I musn't have rear sound distortion

Front - 4" component (am looking for just a pair of 4" midbass/driver, as I already have a new unused DEI 6.5" component set which can be used as the 6.5 midbass for the rear door whereas the tweeter & crossover for driving the front 4" midbass/driver...save cost a bit!)

Rear door - 6.5 midbass (oem speaker place which is just consider right behind the front seat, using my above new 6.5 DEI midbass) = due refuse to cut the front door ler

Booth - Boston Ascoustic subwoofer

Existingly ady have 1 2-channel Macrom amp & will have to look for another 4-channel amp if i am going ahead with the above, provided can get an odd 4" midbass/driver ...by the way, saw this, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2220379...if can't get any new one

This post has been edited by superdeemon: Feb 24 2012, 08:24 AM

My car stock speaker placement is beneath the dash, somehow facing the leg.

Size is pretty limited too... 4".

Will I still benefit getting a good set of 4" components to replace the stock ones?

if you're serious about it, cut/mod the panel to fit a 6.5" component set
more bang for buck, even more so if you do not have plans for subwoofers

This is how Corolla AE92's front speaker placement looks like ... no way to mod to fit in larger speakers without looking ugly



Pic is not mine, this one is LHD version. And what's worse, mine does not even have a removable grill like the one in the pic.

Thinking of some workaround to improve the situation without involving cutting and modding.

A set of 4" component with midbass in the factory location and twitters on the dash, good? Just want some decent upgrade rather than ultimate SQ.
Or maybe some Focal/DLS/JBL 4" coaxial?

But then again, does the speakers facing downwards matters?

This post has been edited by soulfly: Feb 27 2012, 07:36 PM

my advice:
1) ignore that panel, either fader to soften it after you get new component sets, or just unplug it and forget about it
2) fit the 6.5" mid/mid bass to your door panel, of course, that involves cutting and modding. (if you dont plan to sell the car in the short term period, why not?)
3) component set will still be much better, less headache, and better bang for buck
4) speakers facing downwards do matter. while it may not affect that much on mid bass, your mid (which is still run by the 4"/6.5" unit instead of the tweeters unless you got a 3way setup) will definitely be affected. and if i may say, wasted, more so if you're getting reputable brands that should be worth every money you paid for.

will bear that in mind thanks.

how about 6.5" in the kick panel instead of door panel? i think it will have more 'stealth' look which i kinda prefer.

sorry i actually meant the kick panel area lol (i just generally refer that whole thing as the door panel lol)

bottom line, its usually placed on the door panel, at the bottom corner near to your legs/kick panel

u can customized the door panel to fit 6.5" but will cost a fair bit due to fibre + re-wrap
to make it look good on door panel, u need to re-wrap the whole door panel wif OEM material(so it looks like 1 pc). thickness material only 2mm. material can range from BMW, Merc to japanese like vios and etc..
it will look like brand new door after dat...and it wont peel or material deteriorate in short period of time.

kick panel dun have enuf space for 6.5" magnet depth. u can max it in, but most probably be blocking ur accelerator pedal. 4" is the only ideal on kick panel

another alternative:
tweeter on a-pillar or dash, Kick panel 4" midrange, sealed enclosure for midbass located under the seat in front of it. meaning u have less legroom.
but it will sound awesome!!!
its a 3-way setup.

i did this for Scans revelator(premium drivers) on a wish..nice

Huh, finally i've completed my humble entry level ICE system for my myvi rides, hopefully to achieve some decent listenable during long outstation & as always KL terrible-horrible traffic crawl!

Thank you all sifus!

This post has been edited by superdeemon: Mar 2 2012, 08:13 AM