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post Feb 22 2012, 08:02 AM, updated 14y ago

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http://www.bharian.com.my/articles/PROTONp...elbaru/Article/

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PROTON perkenal model baru
Oleh Ahmad Farizal Hajat
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2012/02/21


PROTON Holdings Bhd akan memperkenalkan model baru sepenuhnya, iaitu kereta generasi baru pertama yang direka dan dibangunkan selaras keperluan perundangan dan peraturan automotif global terkini, pada pertengahan bulan depan.

Sumber dalaman berkata, model yang dikenali dengan nama kod P3-21A itu akan dijual pada harga antara RM60,000 hingga RM70,000 seunit, sekali gus menepati tanggungjawab syarikat sebagai pengeluar kereta nasional yang sentiasa memasarkan kereta dengan harga mampu milik tanpa berkompromi dengan tahap kualiti.
“Nama rasmi model baru yang dilengkapi dengan enjin Campro 1.6 turbo itu sudah pun dimuktamadkan kumpulan pengurusan PROTON, manakala pelancarannya pula dijangka akan dibuat Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Razak di Pusat Kecemerlangan PROTON di Subang Jaya, Selangor,” katanya.

Menurut sumber berkenaan, model baru itu juga akan merapatkan jurang segmen kereta antara Persona dan Inspira, seterusnya memberikan lebih banyak pilihan kepada pengguna memiliki kereta.

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Damn good price
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Still won't buy one. So many functions on a Proton. Waiting to repair only la.
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(The Analyst @ Feb 22 2012, 08:06 AM)
Still won't buy one. So many functions on a Proton. Waiting to repair only la.
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Problem is there is no Corolla sized car in that price segment and the Vios being too basic (J at RM 73k) hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:07 AM)
Problem is there is no Corolla sized car in that price segment and the Vios being too basic (J at RM 73k)  hmm.gif
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RM60k maybe still acceptable. RM70,000 need to think a bit. hmm.gif
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Going to be another ripped off by the government from the citizen
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:14 AM

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Going to be another ripped off by the government from the citizen
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RM 60k is the price that you pay for C-segment car in China.
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Good price but sales will be bad as Bank Negara already tighten loan rules. Now must calculate based on nett income not gross income like last time.
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I heard that the import cars are not heavily taxes anymore, only that car manufacturer never wanted to reduce price cause want to maintain high profit.
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basher is still a basher.. i think this is a good start for proton to build up reputation after 25 years.. maybe later they also could fix their after service quality
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sure oversea export model sell at less than 50k. UMNO boleh!
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kampung, all low to high spec also fall into price between 60 to 70k?
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70k is good price no matter how shitty proton track record is. This is their chance to gain back the trust. If they fail with p3-21A, even malaysian will never buy proton anymore.
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Feb 22 2012, 08:17 AM)
kampung, all low to high spec also fall into price between 60 to 70k?
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This newspaper report implies so.

However, I doubt the price range can be that narrow.
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:18 AM)
70k is good price no matter how shitty proton track record is. This is their chance to gain back the trust. If they fail with p3-21A, even malaysian will never buy proton anymore.
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I expect the medium range spec to be sellable, then highest spec. Lowest spec might not sell well because it is 5 MT.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:14 AM)
RM 60k is the price that you pay for C-segment car in China.
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wait.. does passat cc consider as c-segment car?
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it just should be 50-60k really.
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QUOTE(Strike @ Feb 22 2012, 08:21 AM)
wait.. does passat cc consider as c-segment car?
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No.

C-segment cars are Corolla, Forte, Civic, Sylphy, Jetta, Focus, Elantra etc....

B-segment cars are Vios, City, Verna
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:20 AM)
I expect the medium range spec to be sellable, then highest spec. Lowest spec might not sell well because it is 5 MT.
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If MT with turbo, alot of people will buy it for fun. And alos heard rumors of the hatchback version will come with manual turbo.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:14 AM)
RM 60k is the price that you pay for C-segment car in China.
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I see you're one strong supporter of Proton, from your previous posts i saw before.

Sure this car worth it?Not like the Waja 1.8(renault engines)? With too many electronic stuff till Proton can't even fix it what they sell.

P3-21A looks good though hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:14 AM)
RM 60k is the price that you pay for C-segment car in China.
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Actually there is no different local and foreign brand(asean), all also kena excise duties 75% + sales tax 10%

If we take out 75%, this manufacturer cost less than $30K


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QUOTE(Turnip @ Feb 22 2012, 08:25 AM)
I see you're one strong supporter of Proton, from your previous posts i saw before.

Sure this car worth it?Not like the Waja 1.8(renault engines)? With too many electronic stuff till Proton can't even fix it what they sell.

P3-21A looks good though  hmm.gif
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Strong supporter, I am not laugh.gif

My family has Japanese and one Ford.

It is just that, P 3-21 A caught my eye for one reason.............spec in comparison to Corolla laugh.gif
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P3-21A is Proton last chance.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:23 AM)
No.

C-segment cars are Corolla, Forte, Civic, Sylphy, Jetta, Focus, Elantra etc....

B-segment cars are Vios, City, Verna
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still have a lil bit of hope biggrin.gif


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And some D segment car feature also can be found in P3-21A.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:27 AM)
Strong supporter, I am not  laugh.gif

My family has Japanese and one Ford.

It is just that, P 3-21 A caught my eye for one reason.............spec in comparison to Corolla  laugh.gif
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We'll see till launch day.P3-21A seems like hope for Proton, well it seems like their flagship model.Those gadgets and stuff.

But, until when someone buys and test it first.

No more Waja 1.8(Renault-hence a good engine though) -alike experience case like me, bought it earliest. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 22 2012, 08:14 AM)
Good price but sales will be bad as Bank Negara already tighten loan rules. Now must calculate based on nett income not gross income like last time.
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There is always a way.. biggrin.gif
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why many talks about waja.. is it that bad?
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10k different than inspira 1.8. so i guess its a stiff competition in proton c segment models itself.
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QUOTE(memekfalui @ Feb 22 2012, 08:38 AM)
10k different than inspira 1.8. so i guess its a stiff competition in proton c segment models itself.
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Inspira will stop production i think. I don't see Inspira is relevant after the release of P3-21A.
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Not a Persona replacement, then.

More of an alternative to the Inspira.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:29 AM)
P3-21A is Proton last chance.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:07 AM)
Problem is there is no Corolla sized car in that price segment and the Vios being too basic (J at RM 73k)  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:40 AM)
Inspira will stop production i think. I don't see Inspira is relevant after the release of P3-21A.
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inspira not selling, further not much profit from
INSPIRA cause need to pay a lot of royalty o Mitsubishi

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QUOTE(thexs @ Feb 22 2012, 08:42 AM)
Not a Persona replacement, then.

More of an alternative to the Inspira.
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For proton to position their product is bit difficult than other company. Persona is a B segmet sized car, but price is below than B segment average.
Like Inspira, the price is on skewed from B segment to C segment.

P3-21A another unique segment for proton. They can never priced their car like other car manufacturer if based on the size and powertrain only.
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This Proton still got one strong competition ....

Hyundai Elantra 5th generation.

In US this Elantra selling 16,500 USD only....come to Malaysia ...tax bla bla bla + songlap fees = should be RM60k -70k around also.

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campro engine suck la. . .prefer japan engine. . .
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If P3-21A make a huge impact locally, other car manufacturer might be reducing their car price gradually.
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Proton must not disappoints consumers this time around or else people will never trust Proton any more
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Feb 22 2012, 08:51 AM)
This Proton still got one strong competition ....

Hyundai Elantra 5th generation.

If  Hyundai selling at 70-75K.....this proton will get X off
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how sure u knw its gonna be selling 70-75 ? most probably it will be way higher inorder to prevent price clashing between the both
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:29 AM)
P3-21A is Proton last chance.
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mane ade?

saga and persona is good car oso ohh. gain many positive review liao.

car problem is mostly due to the service centre lor. somemore owner memang no check oso.


The best service is honda. but dem expensive. huhue.
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Feb 22 2012, 07:58 AM)
how sure u knw its gonna be selling 70-75 ? most probably it will be way higher inorder to prevent price clashing between the both
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In US selling 16,500 USD...come to Malaysia won't be 80k ...if 80K mean BN songlap more than 50k already
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So did they solve their power window failure ?
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So this car under DSZ or under Mahleel?

got difference you know? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Feb 22 2012, 08:51 AM)
This Proton still got one strong competition ....

Hyundai Elantra 5th generation.

In US this Elantra selling 16,500 USD only....come to Malaysia ...tax bla bla bla  + songlap fees = should be RM60k -70k around also.
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but hyundai n kia took peugeot n citroen concept. car sell cheap cheap to u.



Rip u off in spare parts. laugh.gif


pomen told me korean spare part is 3x more expensive than japanese car spare part.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:23 AM)
If MT with turbo, alot of people will buy it for fun.  And alos heard rumors of the hatchback version will come with manual turbo.
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p3-22a with 6 speed getrag MT and a 150hp and higher torque coz the MT can take much higher torque than CVT VT3
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 22 2012, 09:01 AM)
So did they solve their power window failure ?
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yeah, lifetime warranty. laugh.gif


but if u wan power window tahan, use it as frequent as possible. power window failure mostly due to the rubber sticking the window. u can see the driver side window have far less problem.
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Feb 22 2012, 08:59 AM)
mane ade?

saga and persona is good car oso ohh. gain many positive review liao.

car problem is mostly due to the service centre lor. somemore owner memang no check oso.
The best service is honda. but dem expensive. huhue.
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I still think Exora is their best. Others have problem with sub par vendor parts and finishing.

QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 22 2012, 09:01 AM)
So did they solve their power window failure ?
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If you added the 'tin milo' joke, it will be hilarious. Try again next time.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Feb 22 2012, 08:51 AM)
This Proton still got one strong competition ....

Hyundai Elantra 5th generation.

In US this Elantra selling 16,500 USD only....come to Malaysia ...tax bla bla bla  + songlap fees = should be RM60k -70k around also.
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16500 is the kosong spec with steel rims and no tyres and unpainted bumpers.. hahaha
well that is US pricing for you, they will quote the lowest price possible
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That is on road price already. exclusive the insurance.

16.500 USD with perfect thing .
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QUOTE(junky_man @ Feb 22 2012, 09:01 AM)
So this car under DSZ or under Mahleel?

got difference you know? tongue.gif
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im pretty sure its under DSZ.. if under mahalel, i would say no more to proton.. mahalel did a lousy job with the waja and gen2.. the gen2 suppose to be a step forward to proton, yet it was a 3 steps backwards for proton.. vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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Article says "pengeluar kereta nasional yang sentiasa memasarkan kereta dengan harga mampu milik tanpa berkompromi dengan tahap kualiti."

What a twisted fact they come out with. Zzzzzzz

they should be thankful for the stupid tax for gov, if not PROTON died long time ago already
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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Feb 22 2012, 09:10 AM)
im pretty sure its under DSZ.. if under mahalel, i would say no more to proton.. mahalel did a lousy job with the waja and gen2.. the gen2 suppose to be a step forward to proton, yet it was a 3 steps backwards for proton..  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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i saw the first generation Gen2 dash board this morning.

the one without the enclosed glove compartment. laugh.gif

geddam don't ever make that mistake anymore proton!

Even the guys i know in proton have more faith in DSZ rather than mahleel.
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Even without this car, successful loan applications for Proton is only at 30% for 2011. Good luck for this year and this car.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:16 AM)
I heard that the import cars are not heavily taxes anymore, only that car manufacturer never wanted to reduce price cause want to maintain high profit.
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from where did you hear that? News didn't say reduce tax.. Only locally assembled yes.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:23 AM)
If MT with turbo, alot of people will buy it for fun.  And alos heard rumors of the hatchback version will come with manual turbo.
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Wow really? Hope it's true biggrin.gif
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Sumber dalaman berkata, model yang dikenali dengan nama kod P3-21A itu akan dijual pada harga antara RM60,000 hingga RM70,000 seunit, sekali gus menepati tanggungjawab syarikat sebagai pengeluar kereta nasional yang sentiasa memasarkan kereta dengan harga mampu milik tanpa berkompromi dengan tahap kualiti.[QUOTE]

want to puke edy listen to this..they can come out wif any type model functional car in the market but this statement....nah fook you proton vmad.gif
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what kind of name is p3-21a? The marketing team sleeping? Think they're lambo? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Feb 22 2012, 08:51 AM)
This Proton still got one strong competition ....

Hyundai Elantra 5th generation.

In US this Elantra selling 16,500 USD only....come to Malaysia ...tax bla bla bla  + songlap fees = should be RM60k -70k around also.
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I don't think so .. hyundai elantra's bro - Kia forte also selling at 80k+-.. i don't think elantra will be priced lower than 80k..
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[quote=cuteyman,Feb 22 2012, 09:18 AM]
Sumber dalaman berkata, model yang dikenali dengan nama kod P3-21A itu akan dijual pada harga antara RM60,000 hingga RM70,000 seunit, sekali gus menepati tanggungjawab syarikat sebagai pengeluar kereta nasional yang sentiasa memasarkan kereta dengan harga mampu milik tanpa berkompromi dengan tahap kualiti.[QUOTE]

want to puke edy listen to this..they can come out wif any type model functional car in the market but this statement....nah fook you proton vmad.gif
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QUOTE(replymela @ Feb 22 2012, 09:15 AM)
from where did you hear that? News didn't say reduce tax.. Only locally assembled yes.
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Import duty is 30% for CBU all CC. But for local tax (which proton also kena) is different for each capacity. Proton car is 30% cheaper, due to no import duty.
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QUOTE(replymela @ Feb 22 2012, 09:20 AM)
what kind of name is p3-21a? The marketing team sleeping? Think they're lambo? hmm.gif
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It's just development code.
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Like the VW polo or Golf, they enjoy flat rate import duty 30% and local taxes 75% which is the lowest since their engine capacity is small.

Yet they sell their car high like bigger capacity engine which have 105% tax.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 09:26 AM)
Like the VW polo or Golf, they enjoy flat rate import duty 30% and local taxes 75% which is the lowest since their engine capacity is small.

Yet they sell their car high like bigger capacity engine which have 105% tax.
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they wanna rake in huge profit margin bro..
anyway vios only got taxed with 75% + 10% sales tax but they sell their vois J at 73k..
go figure.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Feb 22 2012, 09:28 AM)
they wanna rake in huge profit margin bro..
anyway vios only got taxed with 75% + 10% sales tax but they sell their vois J at 73k..
go figure..  doh.gif
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That is why. People blame proton for this. Not company who actually can lower their car price. Lot of misinformation about import duty.
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what kind of name is p3-21a? The marketing team sleeping? Think they're lambo? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Feb 22 2012, 09:28 AM)
they wanna rake in huge profit margin bro..
anyway vios only got taxed with 75% + 10% sales tax but they sell their vois J at 73k..
go figure..  doh.gif
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means other manufacturer actually quietly rip off malaysian customer?

man thats bad.
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FFFFFUUUUUUU
means other manufacturer actually quietly rip off malaysian customer?

man thats bad.
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protons also got 75%+ 10% tax on their car
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Feb 22 2012, 09:31 AM)
FFFFFUUUUUUU
means other manufacturer actually quietly rip off malaysian customer?

man thats bad.
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They have been doing this all this while because of they can sell high price and people eventually will still demand for import cars. Can blame proton lack of competitive with foreign car makers.

That is why i said if P3-21A made an impact in local markets, foreign car maker will lower their car price. They have alot of margins to begin with.
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they give survey form to my gf. when question about price. my gf put rm60-65k  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 09:34 AM)
They have been doing this all this while because of they can sell high price and people eventually will still demand for import cars.  Can blame proton lack of competitive with foreign car makers. 

That is why i said if P3-21A made an impact in local markets, foreign car maker will lower their car price. They have alot of margins to begin with.
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actually, before AFTA, proton got a 50% rebate on the 75% tax by gomen, but not anymore, but anyway, the foreign car makers are profitting from the myth of the 300% car tax to justify their car price
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Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

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(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

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(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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Bro, why not you order ikut ebay?
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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

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(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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why not u convert the property there as well?
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QUOTE(The Analyst @ Feb 22 2012, 08:06 AM)
Still won't buy one. So many functions on a Proton. Waiting to repair only la.
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This
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Feb 22 2012, 09:49 AM)
This
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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US
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(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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Bro, why not you order ikut ebay?
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LOL, gov isn't that stupid in sucking their nations' money. Don't you forget they have a lots of crap tax? doh.gif Hence, the price will be multiplied. All the reason is simple: to protect local cars, whilst the hidden agenda is to suck up our money and on the other hand "stampede" the ppl's head, if you know what I mean.

And yes, I'm driving Proton coz I've no other choice. sad.gif
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LOL. Not satisfied with ur waja?
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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

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(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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wahai bodoh, msrp dia 27k$
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Stupid waja door handle is haunting me
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Tak sampai setahun edi like this. aaiiii......
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QUOTE(Yue @ Feb 22 2012, 09:51 AM)
wahai bodoh, msrp dia 27k$
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wahai pandai, the lowest msrp for Camry is $21,955 (Camry L). Kthxbye
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Feb 22 2012, 09:52 AM)
Tak sampai setahun edi like this. aaiiii......
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It happen only during hot weather if I parked outside
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QUOTE(Yue @ Feb 22 2012, 09:51 AM)
wahai bodoh, msrp dia 27k$
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laugh.gif i was about the say that ahahahahaha

some people just like to bash....if u got any fren working with UMW-Toyota, you check with them la how much is their vios margin...so Damn 7 high else how they paid out those super bonuses....but as usual la ppl won't believe it because its all proton fault laugh.gif
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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:51 AM)
LOL, gov isn't that stupid in sucking their nations' money. Don't you forget they have a lots of crap tax?  doh.gif Hence, the price will be multiplied. All the reason is simple: to protect local cars, whilst the hidden agenda is to suck up our money and on the other hand "stampede" the ppl's head, if you know what I mean.

And yes, I'm driving Proton coz I've no other choice.  sad.gif
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No. Our tax is high. And proton also kena that high tax same as import. Only 30 percent minus if CBU. If CKD, they only kena 10%. Im pointing out the margins of foreign car final pricing. They can easily lower their price, but they don't.
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Feb 22 2012, 09:54 AM)
It happen only during hot weather if I parked outside
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wahai pandai, the lowest msrp for Camry is $21,955 (Camry L). Kthxbye
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tengok spec apa, genius.

if you want to compare, make it an equal comparison. spec and acc wise. hence its only fair to compare Their C-segment high spec with the High spec of P3-21A.
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Put some sunblock on it la  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 09:56 AM)
No.  Our tax is high. And proton also kena that high tax same as import. Only 30 percent minus if CBU. If CKD, they only kena 10%.  Im pointing out the margins of foreign car final pricing. They can easily lower their price, but they don't.
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Owh, by "they" I mean "our tax". I'm sad.. Yups, they can easily lowered the price, but they don't wanna as a reason that I've mentioned.
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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

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After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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Wah the latest Camry looks much better than the previous one laugh.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ Feb 22 2012, 10:08 AM)
Wah the latest Camry looks much better than the previous one laugh.gif
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weeeeee... i never had a proton cars b4 , so i think im going to have this 1..
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RM60k is damn expensive.
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RM60k is damn expensive.
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That's the price of Corolla and Civic sized car in China, for base spec.
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RM60k is damn expensive.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 10:30 AM)
That's the price of Corolla and Civic sized car in China, for base spec.
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same size/segment but different cc...
but really curious abt the exterior look
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weeeeee... i never had a proton cars b4 , so i think im going to have this 1..
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same size/segment but different cc...
but really curious abt the exterior look
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don't you dare support proton! Let it dieee
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so tempting wor.. i gonna go to the showroom and have a look 1st...

this car would be my leisure driving only lah =)
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my family are the truly supporter of proton, since i born in this world, my parents never bought any cars other than proton. Eventho my parents can afford to buy bmw or mercedes, they dont want to..because they said cheap cars or luxury cars, all of them only have 4 tyres, if the car can fly, my dad will consider to buy it. haha! In my point of view, eventho proton have so many small problems, it'll not affect our income because it is still cheap to coop compare to when you buy others car that monthly repayment 1k and above.
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just wanna see what people said 1st.


but i still hate the tail light. why don't follow concept. ceh....
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 10:47 AM)
my family are the truly supporter of proton, since i born in this world, my parents never bought any cars other than proton. Eventho my parents can afford to buy bmw or mercedes, they dont want to..because they said cheap cars or luxury cars, all of them only have 4 tyres, if the car can fly, my dad will consider to buy it. haha! In my point of view, eventho proton have so many small problems, it'll not affect our income because it is still cheap to coop compare to when you buy others car that monthly repayment 1k and above.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 11:47 AM)
my family are the truly supporter of proton, since i born in this world, my parents never bought any cars other than proton. Eventho my parents can afford to buy bmw or mercedes, they dont want to..because they said cheap cars or luxury cars, all of them only have 4 tyres, if the car can fly, my dad will consider to buy it. haha! In my point of view, eventho proton have so many small problems, it'll not affect our income because it is still cheap to coop compare to when you buy others car that monthly repayment 1k and above.
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you rather facing small problem time to time?

or you prefer no need repair anything for long time.


Also safety is most important. A friend of mine crash into tree. Front totally damaged. But his myvi air bag didn't even come out. Resulting his chest and some rib broken.




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so tempting wor.. i gonna go to the showroom and have a look 1st...

this car would be my leisure driving only lah =)
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so against crony but you still support , ptui sad.gif
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 10:55 AM)
you rather facing small problem time to time?

or you prefer no need repair anything for long time.
Also safety is most important. A friend of mine crash into tree. Front totally damaged. But his myvi air bag didn't even come out. Resulting his chest and some rib broken.
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so against crony but you still support , ptui sad.gif
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 10:55 AM)
you rather facing small problem time to time?
based on my experience on proton, small problems only occur once a year, after 3 or 4 years maybe you will change the major things like aircond coil and spring and absorber..for me its still cheap, because if you know how to seek a workshop who is honest to do business in the long run..it'll be no problem to pay the price.

Also safety is most important. A friend of mine crash into tree. Front totally damaged. But his myvi air bag didn't even come out. Resulting his chest and some rib broken.

Your friend are reckless driver. Ask him to learn the defensive driving and ask him to apply all rules that JPJ taught him when he took the driving license..my parents never be in the accident before because they are the responsible driver.

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ok i agree on the part of maintenance fee are cheap.

but it's not about reckless. Accident are unpredictable even you drive slow. Other car also will come and hit you.

The main point is what is the airbag for if it doesn't work?
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 11:11 AM)
ok i agree on the part of maintenance fee are cheap.

but it's not about reckless. Accident are unpredictable even you drive slow. Other car also will come and hit you.

The main point is what is the airbag for if it doesn't work?
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 11:11 AM)
ok i agree on the part of maintenance fee are cheap.

but it's not about reckless. Accident are unpredictable even you drive slow. Other car also will come and hit you.

The main point is what is the airbag for if it doesn't work?
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maybe ur friend forgot to gradually check the airbag, do you know that we advice to check the airbag if its working properly or not? Just take ur car at service center and check it.
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 11:11 AM)
ok i agree on the part of maintenance fee are cheap.

but it's not about reckless. Accident are unpredictable even you drive slow. Other car also will come and hit you.

The main point is what is the airbag for if it doesn't work?
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 11:11 AM)
ok i agree on the part of maintenance fee are cheap.

but it's not about reckless. Accident are unpredictable even you drive slow. Other car also will come and hit you.

The main point is what is the airbag for if it doesn't work?
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no need to worry about proton, their airbag last time deployed even when not involved in an accident. thats high quality for you
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P321A is worth for buying if the price is below 70k- View the car and went to product training, a lot of new safety features and function. Hope they can cope with the production and no quality issue like my Persona. biggrin.gif

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ok if you buy a new proton, just bang your car to a pole or something to check it
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Feb 22 2012, 11:19 AM)
no need to worry about proton, their airbag last time deployed even when not involved in an accident. thats high quality for you
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 11:15 AM)
maybe ur friend forgot to gradually check the airbag, do you know that we advice to check the airbag if its working properly or not? Just take ur car at service center and check it.
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or didnt wear seat belt
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 10:55 AM)
you rather facing small problem time to time?

or you prefer no need repair anything for long time.
Also safety is most important. A friend of mine crash into tree. Front totally damaged. But his myvi air bag didn't even come out. Resulting his chest and some rib broken.
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what myvi have to do with proton?
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60k is expensive for a car like myvi extreme, you know the shitty floaty sampan with tin coke body liked by Malaysians, guys girls and faggots alike?

For a full featured sedan is quite good already
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 10:47 AM)
my family are the truly supporter of proton, since i born in this world, my parents never bought any cars other than proton. Eventho my parents can afford to buy bmw or mercedes, they dont want to..because they said cheap cars or luxury cars, all of them only have 4 tyres, if the car can fly, my dad will consider to buy it. haha! In my point of view, eventho proton have so many small problems, it'll not affect our income because it is still cheap to coop compare to when you buy others car that monthly repayment 1k and above.
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Using the same logic, lets apply for shelter and food on table smile.gif
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don't you dare support proton! Let it dieee
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Lulz u die proton oso still alive.

Ya me tok serious. If they make loss most probaly epf will bail out proton. Tats urs (if u are not 2") my money n all hard working malaysia.

U better pray it success.
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sure oversea export model sell at less than 50k. UMNO boleh!
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did you know persona price 60k SGD in singpore  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Feb 22 2012, 01:30 PM)
no no.. only say the one that are cheaper !!
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Proton is too big to fail, worse come to worse, it will be bailed out...using our own money. Sucks man. I really do wish they would GTFO. I want cheap bimmers.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 10:47 AM)
my family are the truly supporter of proton, since i born in this world, my parents never bought any cars other than proton. Eventho my parents can afford to buy bmw or mercedes, they dont want to..because they said cheap cars or luxury cars, all of them only have 4 tyres, if the car can fly, my dad will consider to buy it. haha! In my point of view, eventho proton have so many small problems, it'll not affect our income because it is still cheap to coop compare to when you buy others car that monthly repayment 1k and above.
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If your family can really afford to buy bmw or merz, what is 1k or 2k? The price of the car does not even matter anymore. Income? You sure?
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If your family can really afford to buy bmw or merz, what is 1k or 2k? The price of the car does not even matter anymore. Income? You sure?
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because my parents believe in the fair distribution of wealth..if we can afford, doesnt mean we can simply throw away our money into the river(applied in buying cars because its will be massive depreciated) got many ppl outside of ur circle that need help in terms of education, source of water and many more..my parents always help this kind of people..even we used to sponsor many unfortunate children to further their studies and so on.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 02:06 PM)
because my parents believe in the fair distribution of wealth..if we can afford, doesnt mean we can simply throw away our money into the river(applied in buying cars because its will be massive depreciated) got many ppl outside of ur circle that need help in terms of education, source of water and many more..my parents always help this kind of people..even we used to  sponsor many unfortunate children to further their studies and so on.
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I NEED HELP! the new nokia lumia 800 i need to do some research on it. can help me ? 2-3 units would be ok.
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hehehe. kesian. anak kena bohong dengan parent.

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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 02:06 PM)
because my parents believe in the fair distribution of wealth..if we can afford, doesnt mean we can simply throw away our money into the river(applied in buying cars because its will be massive depreciated) got many ppl outside of ur circle that need help in terms of education, source of water and many more..my parents always help this kind of people..even we used to  sponsor many unfortunate children to further their studies and so on.
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S : oo, now i get it mom. i love you mom.
F : biches, get in the room!
M : goodnite son, papa need some love too.
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hehehe. kesian. anak kena bohong dengan parent.

S : mom, why don't we have a 530i like my neighbor?
M : well, son, you see ...
S : oo, now i get it mom. i love you mom.
F : biches, get in the room!
M : goodnite son, papa need some love too.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 08:40 AM)
Inspira will stop production i think. I don't see Inspira is relevant after the release of P3-21A.
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Inspira stop producing? i guess not because i think they have spent quite alot of money to purchase Lancer copyright, don't think they have achieve their break even point yet...

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QUOTE(The Analyst @ Feb 22 2012, 08:06 AM)
Still won't buy one. So many functions on a Proton. Waiting to repair only la.
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 22 2012, 02:21 PM)
Inspira stop producing? i guess not because i think they have spent quite alot of money to purchase Lancer copyright, don't think they have achieve their break even point yet...

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They didnt earn much on Inspira. Im pretty sure the lifecycle for Inspira is short. Inspira is the adhoc answer for Proton C segment, because P3-21A is not quite ready at the time.
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QUOTE(jasonloke @ Feb 22 2012, 02:29 PM)
+1 support and agree your word
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ayooo.. when there are many gadget u guys complaint "too many function prone to defect.."

when they did not provide those stuff, u guys complaint also, "forte got reverse camera, got foldable side mirror, got that, honda got this.." doh.gif shakehead.gif

i guess proton could not satisfied everybody..
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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Feb 22 2012, 05:00 PM)
ayooo.. when there are many gadget u guys complaint "too many function prone to defect.."

when they did not provide those stuff, u guys complaint also, "forte got reverse camera, got foldable side mirror, got that, honda got this.."  doh.gif  shakehead.gif

i guess proton could not satisfied everybody..
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The only great thing about Proton is they bought Lotus.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Feb 22 2012, 05:00 PM)
ayooo.. when there are many gadget u guys complaint "too many function prone to defect.."

when they did not provide those stuff, u guys complaint also, "forte got reverse camera, got foldable side mirror, got that, honda got this.."  doh.gif  shakehead.gif

i guess proton could not satisfied everybody..
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because its malaysian.. wait till VW bought over from DRB, sure all wanna buy proton.
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the new car is still a INSPIRA ?

I know i am slow. But this P3-21A is the 4G thing or new car actually ==
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it doesnt end there.. coz they are going to sell it very soon  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Hopefully not.

Anyway this P3-21A doesn't comes with Lotus Ride & Handling?
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Hopefully not.

Anyway this P3-21A doesn't comes with Lotus Ride & Handling?
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P3-21A isn't out is it ==

than today out de car is what shit actually
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P3-21A isn't out is it ==

than today out de car is what shit actually
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QUOTE(The Analyst @ Feb 22 2012, 08:06 AM)
Still won't buy one. So many functions on a Proton. Waiting to repair only la.
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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 22 2012, 05:12 PM)
Dear Sone, I cannot brain what you say.  hmm.gif
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and yea.. lotus is the only thing im proud of
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The only great thing about Proton is they bought Lotus.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Feb 22 2012, 05:08 PM)
the new car is still a INSPIRA ?

I know i am slow. But this P3-21A is the 4G thing or new car actually ==
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YES and Proton made collaboration. Future proton cars will be equipeed yes 4g as standard. They start with Inspira followed by P3-21A.
QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 22 2012, 05:09 PM)
Hopefully not.

Anyway this P3-21A doesn't comes with Lotus Ride & Handling?
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They no longer use that trademark anymore. Now it is Proton Ride & Handling. They confident enough to use 'Proton' trademark since it still good anyway.
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Dear Sone, I cannot brain what you say.  hmm.gif
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I know liao. P3-21 A haven't out.

Today announced i the YES 4G useless thing.

Funny, use internet when driving, kena accident only.

But, usefull when jam ~
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QUOTE(Xonius @ Feb 22 2012, 01:38 PM)
Proton is too big to fail, worse come to worse, it will be bailed out...using our own money. Sucks man. I really do wish they would GTFO. I want cheap bimmers.
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cheap bimmer? muahahahaha!! kahkah kah kah!

U mati, hidup balik belum tentu dapat cheap bimmer!



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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 05:15 PM)
They no longer use that trademark anymore. Now it is Proton Ride & Handling. They confident enough to use 'Proton' trademark since it still good anyway.
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nah, they just stop lying.

handling by lotus. heh.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Feb 22 2012, 10:47 AM)
my family are the truly supporter of proton, since i born in this world, my parents never bought any cars other than proton. Eventho my parents can afford to buy bmw or mercedes, they dont want to..because they said cheap cars or luxury cars, all of them only have 4 tyres, if the car can fly, my dad will consider to buy it. haha! In my point of view, eventho proton have so many small problems, it'll not affect our income because it is still cheap to coop compare to when you buy others car that monthly repayment 1k and above.
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that's just mean your parent's aren't rich enough... rich/richer people dem kiasi one...

another thing is, able to afford and not buying it probably also means their cash is locked somewhere else or they have plan for their money... basically it means they need to sacrifice something in order to get a better car... i.e. memang cannot afford, just cook up story to make themselves feel better, same like me doh.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 05:15 PM)
I dont think Lotus is a good investment.  Proton give alot of money to Lotus but getting less in return.
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Feb 22 2012, 10:55 AM)
you rather facing small problem time to time?

or you prefer no need repair anything for long time.
Also safety is most important. A friend of mine crash into tree. Front totally damaged. But his myvi air bag didn't even come out. Resulting his chest and some rib broken.
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got wear seat belt?
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y proton n perdua no merge?
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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 22 2012, 05:09 PM)
Hopefully not.

Anyway this P3-21A doesn't comes with Lotus Ride & Handling?
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i believe its a registered trademark of proton.. although drb planned to sell lotus, i believe they are not going to sell the whole shares.. they might retain small amount of shares to keep using the Lotus ride and handling..


Added on February 22, 2012, 5:43 pm
QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 22 2012, 05:15 PM)
I dont think Lotus is a good investment.  Proton give alot of money to Lotus but getting less in return.
YES and Proton made collaboration. Future proton cars will be equipeed yes 4g as standard. They start with Inspira followed by P3-21A.

They no longer use that trademark anymore. Now it is Proton Ride & Handling. They confident enough to use 'Proton' trademark since it still good anyway.
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the YES modem is not a built in into the cars.. its just a compartment of YES huddle to fit into.. u can sell it outside if u dont want to use it anyway..

are u sure about the Lotus ride and handling thingy? i belip they stil using it on the brochure of this p3-21a..

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QUOTE(jasonloke @ Feb 22 2012, 02:29 PM)
+1 support and agree your word
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its already improved in late models
same like early days of korean cars in late 90s & early 2000 till post 2010 which bugged with many mechanical & electronic probs too

i think korean cars also till now still bugged with the same probs

just too many proton haters here(maybe some of them also korean cars owner)


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i agreed cause not at the function is because their service charge and lausi quality product from proton as my first car is wira
now i drive toyota even their service charge is more cheaper than proton
just my cent
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QUOTE(jasonloke @ Feb 22 2012, 06:02 PM)
i agreed cause not at the function is because their service charge and lausi quality product from proton as my first car is wira
now i drive toyota even their service charge is more cheaper than proton
just my cent
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low price @toyota authorised SC?only 1 SC u mention or u had tried several SC?

i can recall some proton SC are overpriced while some are low with good service


Added on February 22, 2012, 10:15 pmhere's a tip
dont go to any proton SC that having a very big area

just goto SC thats occupy normal small shop,they will caj u much cheaper

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QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

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(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
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Bro... if u compare to JAPAN itself, US is selling double cheaper than Japan itself where toyota born lolx. Japan price is slightly cheaper than here. 3,800,800 yen with tax convert to here is about RM143k

http://toyota.jp/camry/007_p_001/concept/concept/index.html
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Feb 23 2012, 11:33 AM)
Bro... if u compare to JAPAN itself, US is selling double cheaper than Japan itself where toyota born lolx. Japan price is slightly cheaper than here. 3,800,800 yen with tax convert to here is about RM143k

http://toyota.jp/camry/007_p_001/concept/concept/index.html
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Ic. I juz knew bout that. In that context, I think Proton is following Toyota's foot step: offering much lower prices in foreign country. You knwo, like the famous case of Waja and Gen2 which selling much2 cheaper at Saudi Arabia than Malaysia. (Source & Explanation: http://refsa.org/relevant-number/protons-p...-saudi-arabia/)
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Feb 22 2012, 05:21 PM)
that's just mean your parent's aren't rich enough... rich/richer people dem kiasi one...

another thing is, able to afford and not buying it probably also means their cash is locked somewhere else or they have plan for their money... basically it means they need to sacrifice something in order to get a better car... i.e. memang cannot afford, just cook up story to make themselves feel better, same like me doh.gif
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If the rich people start from zero to rich, they will know how to appreciate the money. U could not say they are not afford. Many malaysian thinks driving big car mean they are rich. And alot buying car used to pay minimum d/p and longest loan period juz to show off.


Some Rich People Real Story...

Real story 1,
One with big oil palm land owner real big land owner only drive an old iswara and working as well. Low profile, very humble.

Real story 2,
Big old boss, business founder from zero to rich. Drive an 20 yrs old car. His son drive a BMW 5 series.
One day, Mat Salleh ask why?
The big old boss say: Because He has a rich father, I do not have a rich father.

Don judge a people buy his car, a lot of kapcai ah peks properties are more then 10 times of ours. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 22 2012, 05:03 PM)
The only great thing about Proton is they bought Lotus.  biggrin.gif
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Proton want to dispose Lotus already, Proton fed-up with Lotus "Promise alot but delivered very little", now Proton is hopping to get VW engine someday

GM or VW willing to share their technology will get to use Tg Malim factory, the most advanced in this region
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Feb 23 2012, 11:10 PM)
Proton want to dispose Lotus already, Proton fed-up with Lotus "Promise alot but delivered very little", now Proton is hopping to get VW engine someday

GM or VW willing to share their technology will get to use Tg Malim factory, the most advanced in this region
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surely proton wan to dispose lotus?great thumbup.gif
lotus just a parasite icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(danabu @ Feb 23 2012, 09:12 PM)
If the rich people start from zero to rich, they will know how to appreciate the money. U could not say they are not afford. Many malaysian thinks driving big car mean they are rich. And alot buying car used to pay minimum d/p and longest loan period juz to show off.
Some Rich People Real Story...

Real story 1,
One with big oil palm land owner real big land owner only drive an old iswara and working as well. Low profile, very humble.

Real story 2,
Big old boss, business founder from zero to rich. Drive an 20 yrs old car. His son drive a BMW 5 series.
One day, Mat Salleh ask why?
The big old boss say: Because He has a rich father, I do not have a rich father.

Don judge a people buy his car, a lot of kapcai ah peks properties are more then 10 times of ours.  biggrin.gif
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there are people who do that, and a lot of it as a matter of fact...

but rich people know the value of their lives and how many people depends on him (mainly biz owners), they won't get flashy cars but definitely will get safer cars...

and yes again, real rich people are humble... only those who have money but not a lot are pain in the @$$3$...
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Last time I told my dad to get persona duwan listen.
Then now got myvi he keep complaining handling like sh.it and feel unsafe when cornering.
LOLOLOL.

Now he say want get inspira instead.
Perhaps can recon this car huh?
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post Feb 24 2012, 11:01 AM

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Now he say want get inspira instead.
Perhaps can recon this car huh?
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no, just get the persona. handling still, good. but exaust system need to change to get more power. everything else, if working, is fine. u get inspira price dtop by 1/3 in 1 year. why go through that?

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Persona+M+Line+...11-13913117.htm


Added on February 24, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(ben_panced @ Feb 21 2012, 10:11 PM)
jepunese are starting to wake up lol..
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i want japs to bounce back.. i hate korean cars

This post has been edited by mypetridish: Feb 24 2012, 11:03 AM
jesseclane
post Feb 24 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Feb 24 2012, 08:44 AM)
Last time I told my dad to get persona duwan listen.
Then now got myvi he keep complaining handling like sh.it and feel unsafe when cornering.
LOLOLOL.

Now he say want get inspira instead.
Perhaps can recon this car huh?
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what you can expect from turtle? whistling.gif
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post Feb 24 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Naskah @ Feb 22 2012, 08:22 AM)
it just should be 50-60k really.
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This price tag looks nice
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post Feb 24 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Feb 22 2012, 09:02 AM)
but hyundai n kia took peugeot n citroen concept. car sell cheap cheap to u.
Rip u off in spare parts.  laugh.gif
pomen told me korean spare part is 3x more expensive than japanese car spare part.
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sure or not, if compare ori vs ori price..lppl la about the same
korean third party more expensive but not as much as 3x, maybe 1.5x.
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post Feb 26 2012, 10:32 PM

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Interesting, wonder how it'll perform
conxtion
post Oct 25 2012, 01:33 AM

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Hi e36.hartge, any such small shop SC in PJ area to recommend?
Thank you very much.


QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Feb 22 2012, 06:04 PM)

Added on February 22, 2012, 10:15 pmhere's a tip
dont go to any proton SC that having a very big area

just goto SC thats occupy normal small shop,they will caj u much cheaper
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post Oct 25 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Oct 25 2012, 01:33 AM)
Hi e36.hartge, any such small shop SC in PJ area to recommend?
Thank you very much.
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pm rosak?

 

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