Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Proton P3-21A to cost between RM 60k and 70k, today's newspaper

views
     
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:16 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
I heard that the import cars are not heavily taxes anymore, only that car manufacturer never wanted to reduce price cause want to maintain high profit.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:18 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
70k is good price no matter how shitty proton track record is. This is their chance to gain back the trust. If they fail with p3-21A, even malaysian will never buy proton anymore.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Feb 22 2012, 08:20 AM)
I expect the medium range spec to be sellable, then highest spec. Lowest spec might not sell well because it is 5 MT.
*
If MT with turbo, alot of people will buy it for fun. And alos heard rumors of the hatchback version will come with manual turbo.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:29 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
P3-21A is Proton last chance.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:33 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
And some D segment car feature also can be found in P3-21A.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:40 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(memekfalui @ Feb 22 2012, 08:38 AM)
10k different than inspira 1.8. so i guess its a stiff competition in proton c segment models itself.
*
Inspira will stop production i think. I don't see Inspira is relevant after the release of P3-21A.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:47 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(thexs @ Feb 22 2012, 08:42 AM)
Not a Persona replacement, then.

More of an alternative to the Inspira.
*
For proton to position their product is bit difficult than other company. Persona is a B segmet sized car, but price is below than B segment average.
Like Inspira, the price is on skewed from B segment to C segment.

P3-21A another unique segment for proton. They can never priced their car like other car manufacturer if based on the size and powertrain only.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 08:54 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
If P3-21A make a huge impact locally, other car manufacturer might be reducing their car price gradually.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:05 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Feb 22 2012, 08:59 AM)
mane ade?

saga and persona is good car oso ohh. gain many positive review liao.

car problem is mostly due to the service centre lor. somemore owner memang no check oso.
The best service is honda. but dem expensive. huhue.
*
I still think Exora is their best. Others have problem with sub par vendor parts and finishing.

QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 22 2012, 09:01 AM)
So did they solve their power window failure ?
*
If you added the 'tin milo' joke, it will be hilarious. Try again next time.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(replymela @ Feb 22 2012, 09:15 AM)
from where did you hear that? News didn't say reduce tax.. Only locally assembled yes.
*
Import duty is 30% for CBU all CC. But for local tax (which proton also kena) is different for each capacity. Proton car is 30% cheaper, due to no import duty.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:26 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Like the VW polo or Golf, they enjoy flat rate import duty 30% and local taxes 75% which is the lowest since their engine capacity is small.

Yet they sell their car high like bigger capacity engine which have 105% tax.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:29 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(ben_panced @ Feb 22 2012, 09:28 AM)
they wanna rake in huge profit margin bro..
anyway vios only got taxed with 75% + 10% sales tax but they sell their vois J at 73k..
go figure..  doh.gif
*
That is why. People blame proton for this. Not company who actually can lower their car price. Lot of misinformation about import duty.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:34 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Feb 22 2012, 09:31 AM)
FFFFFUUUUUUU
means other manufacturer actually quietly rip off malaysian customer?

man thats bad.
*
They have been doing this all this while because of they can sell high price and people eventually will still demand for import cars. Can blame proton lack of competitive with foreign car makers.

That is why i said if P3-21A made an impact in local markets, foreign car maker will lower their car price. They have alot of margins to begin with.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:42 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:40 AM)
Guys, this is the LATEST price for Toyota Camry in the US

user posted image
(Source: http://www.toyota.com/camry/)

After Conversion with current currencies, USD23,000 = RM69,621.00
(Source:http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-usd_myr-malaysian-ringgit.htm/23000)

BUTTHURT AREN'T YOU????
*
Bro, why not you order ikut ebay?
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 09:56 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(roommate @ Feb 22 2012, 09:51 AM)
LOL, gov isn't that stupid in sucking their nations' money. Don't you forget they have a lots of crap tax?  doh.gif Hence, the price will be multiplied. All the reason is simple: to protect local cars, whilst the hidden agenda is to suck up our money and on the other hand "stampede" the ppl's head, if you know what I mean.

And yes, I'm driving Proton coz I've no other choice.  sad.gif
*
No. Our tax is high. And proton also kena that high tax same as import. Only 30 percent minus if CBU. If CKD, they only kena 10%. Im pointing out the margins of foreign car final pricing. They can easily lower their price, but they don't.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 04:44 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 22 2012, 02:21 PM)
Inspira stop producing? i guess not because i think they have spent quite alot of money to purchase Lancer copyright, don't think they have achieve their break even point yet...

blush.gif  blush.gif
*
They didnt earn much on Inspira. Im pretty sure the lifecycle for Inspira is short. Inspira is the adhoc answer for Proton C segment, because P3-21A is not quite ready at the time.
ruffstuff
post Feb 22 2012, 05:15 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,345 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 22 2012, 05:03 PM)
The only great thing about Proton is they bought Lotus.  biggrin.gif
*
I dont think Lotus is a good investment. Proton give alot of money to Lotus but getting less in return.

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Feb 22 2012, 05:08 PM)
the new car is still a INSPIRA ?

I know i am slow. But this P3-21A is the 4G thing or new car actually ==
*
YES and Proton made collaboration. Future proton cars will be equipeed yes 4g as standard. They start with Inspira followed by P3-21A.
QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 22 2012, 05:09 PM)
Hopefully not.

Anyway this P3-21A doesn't comes with Lotus Ride & Handling?
*
They no longer use that trademark anymore. Now it is Proton Ride & Handling. They confident enough to use 'Proton' trademark since it still good anyway.

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0237sec    0.44    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 4th December 2025 - 10:58 PM