as title above ^^

This post has been edited by KcX35: Feb 21 2012, 10:50 PM

Personally, I'd prefer Dota 2 graphic. It looks more stable and beautiful (Valve engine) compared to HoN, although its a bit cartoonish.

For gameplay, I prefer HoN, because I haven't tried Dota 2 yet. HoN is fast paced and thats why I love it.

Right now, I think I'd go for HoN.

When Dota 2 is released, maybe Dota 2 will win cause I really like the bots mode for training.

- Graphics (Source Engine though dated and run only on DX9 but can be updated frequently can still produce beautiful graphics at the highest level and they recently introduced Cloth Animation)

- Aesthetics (Looks good, feels good, during clash you wont get confused easily unlike in HoN thought its subjected to each individual preferences)

- Support (With a Large Company Valve in charge of Dota 2 as well as Eul and Icefrog on the team the game would last as long as DotA or maybe even longer)

- Steam (dont have to layan ah bengs on gayrena and can play on internationally levels and meet pros and assholes worldwide)

This post has been edited by noobfc: Feb 15 2012, 08:43 PM

LoL..go try. me wanna try dota 2 also. hon just not to my liking. tried a couple games, then i quit

Simply Dota2.. why would i pick HoN? i love dota.. its D.O.T.A..spell it right..

HoN betrayed my trust by selling rights to flying spaghetti monster.

double post

This post has been edited by Boomeraangkid: Feb 15 2012, 10:03 PM

Anything that involves those pirates from gayrena = auto fail in my book.

Even without gayrena, Dota 2 still takes the cake.

no poll?

Dota 2 will also have LAN mode. What makes you think ah bengs wont start playing in gayrena and if they got the real game, start screwing up the teamwork that has so well been developed in dota 2? Dota 1 no one cares about teamwork, everyone is having "i pick what i want" mentality. Dota 2 people do care. But since they announced will have LAN mode. gg. The only hope is the game is not too cheap for bengs to buy and screw up MM. Pirated Dota 2 at Gayrena is like a sure thing already if LAN mode is out.

i dunoe how to make poll sory ><

QFT.

Gayrena destroys anything good it touches.

FAT chance HoN's going to have LAN.

DotA 2 FTW.

DotA 2 because:
I have beta access
The gameplay is much more fluid
Less idiots on EU servers. Have fun with your bengs, at least the Russians don't lag here and play like gods.

If it's F2P then their stupidity is confirmed, why pirate something you can get for free

If it's B2P then they will also lose out on the weekly updates as well as the in game store (bengs love flashy costumes)

Besides, one does not simply come in and wreck MP in Valve Game due to VAC, extensive background check for those using dupes, and Dota 2 could use the upcoming banning players integrated in L4D2 already

I mean ever since TF2 went free to play sure bunch of newbs start popping like rabbits but few weeks and months later they got better and the F2P attitude is not as bad as i expected, most just kept quiet but sure got some bad apples

Still have some elitist now and then but fewer, playing with LYN kaki makes the game more fun/relaxing
and 80% we'll get Russians that go laggggggggggg

Gayarena should have open beta test on DOTA 2 since the TF2 and Counter strike is on Gayarena.

This post has been edited by TruthHurts: Feb 16 2012, 06:34 AM

thing is, it should not be there

Gayrena is literally promoting open piracy, its a wonder Valve, Blizzard and many other Devs are not suing them. One theory is that they see gayrena as a potential place to access a wider potential consumer base

anyway, Dota 2 would be on Steam, Valve never outsourced their games to other platforms/companies for a region unlike S2 Games/Riot Games with HoN and LoL

Problem with Valve is that the server they provide is limited. As you can see, they give out beta key depend on their server capacity.
Unlike HON and LOL which gives free open beta test around the world before they actually start with the real thing, Valve cant do that cause it will crash their server.
People who wanted DOTA2 beta test is having a hard time. So the answer is Gayarena. You might not like it but there are a lot of DOTArds out there havent received the beta key from Valve and they will do anything to get it.

Dont worry man, as of the moment, Valve are increasing server capacity worldwide and Dota 2 is currently in Closed Beta not Open Beta. It will be another few months before open Beta. Oh and Valve makes lots of monies everyday so dont worry about the server part, time will tell. As of the moment, they have servers in Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong and Shanghai for the Asian player base.

why do u guys hate gayrena when its a succes with LoL. People buy from gayrena to upgrade their experience when playin LoL.

DOTA? If Valve want to operate it Like TF2, gayrena is the way for easier payment options.

And btw... when will lowyat stop banning gayrena...

Dota 2. Been a fan since 5.84c, although I have yet to play HoN.

Gayrena openly promotes piracy. A long time ago before S2 and Riot showed up, Gayrena was pretty much relying 100% on piracy. Why else would they have lobbies for games with such extensive multiplayer support like TF2 (this was before it went F2P)? By virtue of their crimes I think it's fair to hate/boycott them.

LoL would have been a success anyway even without Gayrena, they just went with the easier approach to reach SEA gamers here, considering Tencent is their majority stakeholder, and are more than capable of setting up their infrastructure for the whole APAC region.

atleast we are separated. Original copy wont be playing with ah beng that use gayrena.

Dota 2 for me.
HON's basically just a rip-off from dota and LOL, and personally i believe that its graphics are overly-detailed that when it comes to 5v5 or sometimes even during 3v3 where everything blasts and booms everywhere..it can get really messy

trust me, DOTA2 will be in gayrena officially. hehehehehe

iinm it's DotA > HoN > LoL > DotA2 (timeline)

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Feb 16 2012, 11:26 PM

sorry to burst your bubble man, valve have local distributor and their own cybercafe program, many CC in malaysia are already subscribed under it

Dota 2 could be F2P if that is why you want it on gayrena, else it could be RM 100 or less, splash some cash for something you like

Oh one more thing, Steamworks games are on Steam, Dota 2 uses Steamworks which makes it exclusive on Steam

Both has its pros and cons, i personally play both of the game and i liked both of the game, but seriously i don't give a damn whoever makes the game, as long as i'm able to enjoy with my friends that's it. :S

That's at least my style of being a gamer.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Feb 17 2012, 12:36 AM

I tried HoN, and I think that the developers dont listen well to the community.
With dota, we debate about balance all the time, and this debates sorted out by moderators later lead to balancing by IceFrog.

It's a little bit different with HoN with their balance team which more often than not fail to adhere to all of the issues regarding balances.(late rebalances are norm)
There are even cases of favoritism among the balance team.

All in all, I think IceFrog handles the balance of the game and feedbacks from the community better than HoN, and not just because I feel more at home with dota.

4 me dota 2.. haha wit valve team working on it.. improving thru every updates ^^

DOTA 2.Less Ah Beng.

All the hopefuls want it to be on flying spaghetti monster, nice try lol. Not happening.

HoN for me. why? because Dota 2 has the stupid input delay. after playing HoN and it's fast paced gameplay, dota/dota2 is just too slow. usually games are 50minute farmfests without heavy ganking like in HoN.

BUT.
Valve >>>>>>>>>>S2 Games

lol, u tried dota 2 yet? in dota 2, its rarely a farm fest.

Bumpssssssssssssssssssssss

Why no Blizzard DOTA?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/maps-and-mods/mods/dota

my opinion, do not vote dota 2 before you play that, i've played dota 2 for few round and i prefer dota1, it have the smell of traditional dota, dota 2 dont have it at all

Try all 3 of them! They are free!

LoL is the easiest for me to play, so I play LoL

Which of the 3 have the shortest average play time?

I'm playing LoL atm but I will transfer to DotA 2 once its released. LoL has a lot of imbalances especially when it comes to new champions. Just take a look at the previous releases (Riven, Ahri and now, Ziggs). They also promised a new map and new graphics engine 2 years ago but scrapped the entire thing soon after. I can't stand game companies that don't stick to their word (honestly, if you can't do something don't promise it to the gamers).

This post has been edited by EARL_SWEATSHIRT: Feb 22 2012, 03:21 PM

LoL if you play Dominion mode. It's like capture the flag. Around 15 minutes usually.

i mean even "IF" wat u said is true ( but i disagree ^^ since dota 2 keep on improving ) , it's no point cont plying dota 1 after dota 2 is release.. cause old dota players sure will move to dota 2 since every tourn organizer mking dota 2 tour even it's in beta mode ~ so 4 me i rather get used to dota 2 ^^

Question : Does Dota2 have denying creeps?

yeah there is.

Aww. Was hoping they'd remove it, minus point.

It's a plus point for the majority of the players out there.

dun get it @@ y - point?

I think most casual players dont like deny mechanics.just my 2posen.

I love denying creeps and towers. When I first played League of Legends, I tried to deny but the game doesn't support denying creeps, and that game failed. But I'm not sure why there are so many people playing LoL. Somemore the update eats around few GB, unlike HoN update which is not so big.

I hope Dota 2 will be as good as HoN. Waiting for the full release of dota 2.

Because denying creeps is a legacy of the Warcraft engine.
It doesn't bring anything to the attraction of the game and is around because players found that they could deny creeps based on the Warcraft engine and gain an advantage over their opponents. No doubt it has become central to competitive play, but it is a legacy of an old engine. It makes for too micro for gameplay to add to the fun factor. I play Dota to and my deny score at lvl 7-8 is typically quite close to my creep kills, and I do find that the game would do best with the deny micro. Just saying.

hmmm dota 2 i guess...but i will wait for awhile...see how it goes..currently beta..i see alot of "pro" who think AP games is a CM mode game..and demand it that way....

trololol... sad.. didint met 1 thought @@

Eh... you mean like Valve?

i met plenty of them..i know teamwork is one thing..but..those ppl are complaining and leaving the game just becoz everyone random and the hero not according to their plan...=="

only few, most are delays

started playing HoN after dota first it came out and loving it (more than dota) since. i like the direction they are taking the dota genre to (faster gameplay and reflex requirement, making things simpler without dumbing down the game too much). havent played LoL but i don't like how the game looks. also the game differs too much from the original dota to my taste (5 skills per hero, summoner skills etc) and the fact that real cash does affect your play to a certain degree. havent play dota2 as well but if it's just dota with prettier graphics then my point is still the same. thinking of trying it once its fully released and see how it goes. although if i do like it i will miss some heroes from hon and maybe even be playing a bit of both.

Play DOTA since SK was really OP, and that Skel Archer forgot name also OP forgot version. .. Since DOTA was soo overcrowded, and HoN was release International Ver, and i got the key.. so

change to HoN, really like it since it fast pace.. its not like farming or ganking but the game it self, key input, shortcut key... make it easier (without any modding) ....

test LoL (it was supper BORING!!!) sry for LoL fan, del it the day i install it....

test DOTA2 ... its boring! because too slow and it feel like playing a slower version of HoN with really boring graphic because of the details... well i like more detail!!!


SO....conclusion. HoN FTW!!!! fark others

but but.... skyrim pwn all >.< hope they make it on9 ahahah

This post has been edited by kambing69: Feb 23 2012, 05:06 PM

LoL doesn't need real cash, you can unlock all heroes, items etc. with in-game point except the skins. It will take some time, slow but not impossible.
While HoN, to unlock even one hero it seems to take forever without spending real money for G@rena Shell. The point gained after each match is ridiculously low.
This is according to my underage brother who have been playing these game since their inception on G@rena, under my supervision. So far he never ask me to buy him in-game stuff, except i gifts him some flying spaghetti monster Shells for character skins.

Nope you wrong... silver coin can get easily with MM... and if you in killing spree or your teammate owning (eq:immortal=15silver) .... that not that hard... with around 20 game or so you can unlock hero already.. i never buy gold using real money and now already unlock around 12 hero~

ah thanks for the clearance. so cash will just provide a shortcut to advantages that will take time to get otherwise. still, it creates a gap between new players and older players/new ones with cash other than just plain skill.

regarding unlocking heroes in hon, i don't have much to say since being a legacy player, it doesn't affect me. but i do agree it's a shame that S2 backed off from their own words and implement the same shop system most HoN players despise from LoL which is the hero unlock. personally i don't think i will be playing HoN in the first place if they use that method right from the start. even right now i am less motivated to introduce HoN to any friends if they have to start without having the complete hero pool to choose from. but i have to view it as a necessary evil to enable S2 to keep on operating and expanding the game. and the number of players does increased post f2p, albeit still far to reach lol's level. in this case i tip my hat to riot for creating an effective business model which is copied by S2.

although as a consolation point, hon allows even free players to have access to all heroes if they play tournament mode games. im not really sure how this works since i havent tried it but from what i heard it costs nothing and is available to everyone. also hon gives 15 free heroes a week compared to lol's 10

s2's deal with the devil (gayrena) also is a well accepted by the SEA community as a dlck move and it actually made a number of players stopped playing for good (pretty sure we have quite a few of them here in loyat ). but for me, it's something that a simple proxy can fix

I think another reason why my brother prefer LoL because it's very fast paced. Even faster than HoN with fast MM system. Usually fast paced game doesn't tax too much your thinking and time, which suit my brother style.

have to agree on HoN being fast paced but i think the metagame for Dota 2 for our region is slowly changing

i was able to get a few games to end within 30 mins which is quite a feat if you compared with a farmfest of >40 min

haha the MM system got nothing to do with the game pace lulz. for faster paced game hon does have the casual mode (lol mode if u ask me ) which sports faster leveling up to midgame, no gold penalty on death and no experience penalty from creep denies. as it makes ganking/hero killing a lot more important than farming/denying and as the risk of losing gold upon death is absent, it encourages aggressive play. farmed heroes will snowball easily and be very hard to stop hence usually the game is decided and ended faster than normal mode. the only downside is that the game isn't balanced based on that mode. personally i found the mode really fun and i play it on nostats game when my usual friends is not online. really a good mode to attract new players, especially those from lol

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Added on February 23, 2012, 6:54 pmthe game pace is one thing, another is like what kambing69 said, the mechanics (not even sure its the right word) itself that is faster. heroes attack/spell animation and reflex/feedback is faster than the ones in dota. i might be wrong since it's been a while since i last play dota but what i remember when switching back to playing dota i have a minor difficulty to readjust the timing to lasthit/deny etc. everything feels slower and cumbersome as if you lower the gamespeed setting in older games. ofc, this is not a bad thing, just a matter of preference. on the other hand it does makes it harder for newer player to get used to the game. i remember being like "what the eff just happened?" when getting ganked or going into team clashes during my early experience with hon.

This post has been edited by Shadow Kun: Feb 23 2012, 06:54 PM

LOL fast paced? you mean having the HEAL + SPEED BOOST spell at LVL1 for FREE? How to GANK??? BORING like hell man. its a stupid farmfest. just watch the competitive LoL ( competitive? LOL) and its just farmfests all game.

Dota 2.... definitely the meta-game is affected by the SEA HoN players that got the beta keys. In HoN everybody likes to gank. Ganking is very fun compared to farming for >40 mins. atm HoN is just a better polished game compared to Dota 2 and LoL. HoN doesn't have input delay like Dota 2 and the mechanics and engine is very smooth.

Lulz...the title have LoL too now.
It was just Dota2 vs HoN the first time.

Anyway, I stand firm that Dota2 is better just cos the developer is better at hearing the community.
Just look at HoN.Ppl has been clamoring that its unfair to have limited hero pool, but they still do it for profit.
I believe that Valve as developers are better listeners, and wont go against the voice of majority.(and their decisions are surely wont be purely profit driven)

Well, to those of you who said HoN has alot of "ah bengs", you guys probably are still in <1700PSR/MMR range. When you reach 1750PSR/MMR range, rarely I will encounter the so-called "ah bengs" and the real thing starts from here. Plus, DOTA has way too many childish act in game

a wide percentage of the local gaming community for ARTS game is just not mature enough

For those who said LOL is boring. Its only because u play it like dota.

LOL is with a whole new game concept, Blue, Red, Dragon, Baron etc. Go watch some of the competitive match for LOL. If u simply farm up and kill (dota style) LOL is not for you. Oh, and if u just want gank, LOL is not for you too.

Also, currently LOL is more internationally support with bigger community atm as compare with HON. Even recent IEM or WCG opt to go for LOL.

I can understand alot of ppl play dota and remain a fans of it until now. I havent try Hon and dota 2 so i cant comment on gameplay.

But one thing for sure, you wont avoid ah beng in any of the game, because some of the ah beng dunno they are ah beng and they are rich too. Free to play or not wont deter them. Ah Beng is everywhere.

Anyway, do you know? LOL is immensely popular in US, Europe and Korea now?

Anyway, to share with everyone, watch IEM KIEV FINALS TSM VS M5 Game at youtube. Total 3 games.

I come from wow background, to me, LOL with mastery and runes, + summoner spell is more appealing to me than Hon atm.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Feb 26 2012, 09:50 AM

From MB Carmac (esports manager IEM) about HON/DOTA players saying LoL is lame and casual.

hmmm... i think so called" bes game" in between tis 3 will be revealed.. when dota 2 officially released ^^...

btw jus cont pick which game suits wanna see more reasons xP

It's gankable in most of the pub matches so unless you are a professional, you won't feel bored. They play safe because it's tournament and they don't want to risk too much. I didn't touch DotA 2 and only played a day of HoN so I can't comment much without sounding like a freaking fanboy but you don't farm for >40 mins in LoL, just saying. Pro matches are a lot different than the commoner matches.

This post has been edited by Goliath764: Feb 27 2012, 07:48 PM

I tried almost everything in the MOBA genre. LoL/ HoN/ Dota/ Dota 2 and even rise of immortals.

I started dota back in 5.84b or c days. Playing it for fun and with friends only.

I played HON during it's beta for like 1-2 months, it is a bit fast paced but everyone was considering it like the new dota and some of my friends wanted to switch over. It was like DOTA 2 at that time. Few months back I tried HON again and still I feel everything is much faster and I don't really like much about it. HON feels darker as well.

I only tried LoL co-op vs bot and for PvP I only did that during the vs GM event in my uni. Errr, team fight wise is all ok but maybe I don't have much understanding about the game like items and I really hate the limited heroes idea so I just play vs bot for fun. I like the graphic with a bolded outline, probably the only reason why I'm playing it.

Then I got Dota 2 , one of the earliest in LYN who get it, first batch in hardware survey. After trying it, yes I love it more than everything else mentioned. Everything feels better in DOTA2 compare to DOTA.

For now, I'll just play dota and dota2 depends where my friends are. DOTA 2 surely makes everything feels better, the game is smooth, the graphic and animation is nice as well. The game feel much more alive in DOTA 2 compare back to DOTA. Just like everything about it.

well said xP

I disagree fully. Sorry. LoL is a farmfest with summoner spells like the free blink. You can't deny the facts. They do not play safe because of not wanting to risk, it's just that ganking in LoL is just a waste of time. Many pro players agree.

Anyways enjoy your game while I enjoy mine. Have fun. Good thing we can choose since both are free.

Played since dota 6.2 :3

I played HoN for some time and didn't really like it because the lack of contrast compare to Dota or Dota2. I mean if they person Ultied or cast a spell, i wouldn't know until it's too late because it's hard to see when that happens.

Dota2 feels great but it needs time to finetune the hardware performance

What I know is that these games make players become aggressive.

Not sure about Dota 2 community. HoN community is full of Sohai, assholes and retards.

I can accept your point of not liking LoL but I don't like your tone to be blunt, maybe you just based your judgement just by watching LoL game but not play it. Anyway, I disagree that free blink = ungankable because well, enemy have heal + flash(blink), you have heal + flash too, he blink u blink and follow, and you will get the kill. As I said tournament are different and also pro players are very hard to gank not because the free blink as you said is OP, it's because of other factors like warding and clairvoyance stuff and well, unless you are playing at the pro level which probably only cover 5% of the entire LoL population, gank is do-able and kills are in a good amount in a game.

But then I guess HoN is a gankfest and I guess after you play HoN, anything else is a farmfest. So cheer mate.

Like, who are those pro players?

+1 to Goliath for putting forth a good argument supported by examples.

Personally, FatalExe, your post sounds nothing more like a rant without much backing. Free blink and Heal renders someone ungankable? I'm sure you haven't tried it because the you have Flash too, and Ignite cancels out their heal.

And I'm sure you're referencing competitive pro tournaments rather than the average game as you brand it a farmfest. A farmfest as compared to...? It's like saying competitive play is a wardfest. Which can also be true.

And I find the last statement 'many pros agree'. Just for reference, who are these 'pros'? Unles of course you consider yourself and your friends to be pros, and this statement is actually a reflection of your group's sentiments.

I have switched from LoL from HoN, mainly because my friends play LoL and it feels different from the usual DotA/HoN. So far in the LoL games i played there's alot of ganking, with masteries/runes and summoner spells adding some depth into the game.

Having played HoN, the community there seems a tad worse then LoL, with guys blaming each other all the time when they didn't see a gank coming (even with wards in place..) and farmers that literally farm creeps while there's a clash just next to them. It's great fun when everyone knows what they are doing though. Btw the games played are within the 1750-1850 MMR range.

I am lookin forward to DotA 2 though xD Just choose the game that most of your friends play.

In my opinion, HoN is in a bad shape right now.

You see - League of Legends was designed for casual gamers - easy to get in and out, and what not - it has its own niche audiences. HoN, however, was made in the sense of "DotA" - all the original heroes was a reskinned, renamed DotA hero - they even let you choose original dota model to use as your hero. But now that DotA 2 is released, HoN is easily obsolete.

That and - so far, DotA 2 is the only game that haven't charge me money per hero. So yeah, DotA 2 all the way.

Haven't paid a cent in LoL to acquire champions. Just use the points you earn every game, save up and then buy!

Although there are free champ rotations every week, most of us will find one or two champs that we really like and connect with. I find the fact that I use my points earned to acquire them makes them feel 'mine' and exclusive. The only thing in LoL that involves money to buy are the unique skins for each champion. Just a cosmetic change to make your champ more exclusive....but go ahead and buy one if you like the game so as to support the developers and put food on their table.

1 thing for sure, last hitting in DOTA2 is so much easier, I bet a lot start to spam the S button just to hear the sound and animation and it's so much for fun. I say this is one of the part which makes DOTA 2 so addictive to play xD Try it yourself before denying this statement. Ask all the hardcore/pro, they most likely agree to this.

I think some prefer more over DOTA because of it's complexity. You could manipulate lane creep even you dont have control over them, stuff such as blocking creep, pull or double pull creep, stack creep, denying whole wave of creep etc makes the game more fun since there is a lot stuff you could do, which gives you different outcome. When I play LOL, I feel so not natural in last hitting, I keep on tries to block the creep which I know I couldn't, I even try to deny and as well I couldn't.

Another factor for DOTA players not switching over LoL is that they had to relearn everything they learn from DOTA. Stuff above like I mentioned and about the runes etc and ability to hide in grass etc, warding spots.

been playing dota before <5.84b and still have the 1st smm dota shirt in keep . i think it was year 2004

then when s2 hon is out tried the beta but dont feel good since more familiar with dota heroes and alot of hon pre released hero are dota ripped off except the first few s2 heroes. End up quiting after few days and continue to play dota until gayrena got the copyright for LoL and HoN for SEA region so tested both out.

Currently gayrena hon have afew 1800+mmr account, main account was 1900+ mmr but dropped after too much newbie player screwing the game mostly pinoy. On gayrena LoL have a lvl 30 account but the game is too bored and slow paced so pretty much stop playing. Tested Dota2 on my friends account and theres only afew heroes available to play and the game still lose to HoN in the speed factor.

best moba currently HoN>Dota2>LoL>Dota
I choose HoN bcoz its more fast paced than all other Moba in game but once Dota2 goes live it pretty much gonna be the champ with those early USD1Million tourny and Valve probably gonna improve the delay of Dota2.

and before u make any conclusion go make an account on the game and atleast get to the highest bracket for each game then only u give a comment about it since i know alot that complaining about the other games just only played for afew games and probably havent even reach the minimum stage of the game.

that might be true on earlier phase of HoN. it's been a really long while since hon last port a dota hero. and also since then there's a lot of changes and remakes are done on lots of dota ports and items as well as some various other stuff like the secret shop and runes. unlike dota 2 that is confined to bring the old dota just for a graphical upgrade hon is free to tweak some parts deemed suitable such as the game pacing, clockwerk's/pharaoh's cogs/wall etc. all these makes hon less and less interchangeable to dota/dota2 as it progress.

LoL is getting big in KR...
sanctioned by KESPA and big prize pool is flowing there...
Fruitdealer is coaching the StarTale's LoL team now lolx

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having played all 3 games, i would say LoL feels different from the other two...
it dumb-ed down some stuffs but open up so many more possibilities...

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^ 130k live concurrent viewers for LoL

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 7 2012, 12:11 AM

And - lets be honest here - for me, all i really wanted, was a true to original dota, graphical upgrade only DotA. Not some spinoff with some DotA Hero in it with misc. mechanics.

I think that stands true for quite an amount of players too.

yep everyone have their preferences. true dota fans will stick to dota/dota2 while lol and hon both have a crowd of their own. as long as they don't overlap with each other too much then i guess theres not much issue here. heck one can even play all 3 if they wanted. variety is a good thing no?

please please please i need a party... fed up playing with noobs.

It was I think WCG or some other big gaming event last year. I don't remember. I do remember however that the game became such a farmfest even the commentators had nothing to comment on except until late in the game. Farmfest as compared to other games in the genre (HoN, Dota). The way the games work currently, wards is a must in all mid-high level pub games and pro games(competitive)..

I remember reading an interview a year ago one of the top players in the ladder stating that the game is against the ganking meta game. Sorry but I can't dig up the source already. Also, during last year, the number 1 player in the ladder is a HoN pro that played in LoL for just 3 or 4 months with the sponsor of Riot Games(he get unlimited IP or CP(?). Needless to say, his opinion on the game was "trash" too.

I apologize if I seemed biased or whatever. Just stating my opinion as a old player of Dota( since 2008) LoL ( since international closed beta) and HoN (2009 5th batch of closed beta). I still play all 3 games since my friends are playing in all 3 games.

That dude is probably Chu8, dude climbed the ladder with one of the no-one-use champ, Maokai. I assume he's back to HoN now?

imo the idea behind LoL is "Everyone is imba, so no one is truly imba".
The ethos behind that in itself is so skewed.

I could play AP Sion and almost KO any hero in 2 sec nuke burst every single time.

yeah just like how i can use banshee + lots of MR and rape u everytime with my champ.....

lol everything got a counter.....

sion usually banned in ranked game anyway

This post has been edited by archonixm: Mar 26 2012, 05:51 AM

my point is, you cant do that in dota.
2 sec nuke burst and a hero is down to 10% of his life if not dead.
Deathfire Grasp is by far the most imbalanced item in LoL.

Hon > Dota2 > LoL

Dota 2 is just heavy and slow..and it looks depressing.

<3 dota 2

er mortred with burize and basher able to ministun + crit u and u r dead in 1 sec if crit 2x hahaha.