In my opinion, HoN is in a bad shape right now.

You see - League of Legends was designed for casual gamers - easy to get in and out, and what not - it has its own niche audiences. HoN, however, was made in the sense of "DotA" - all the original heroes was a reskinned, renamed DotA hero - they even let you choose original dota model to use as your hero. But now that DotA 2 is released, HoN is easily obsolete.

That and - so far, DotA 2 is the only game that haven't charge me money per hero. So yeah, DotA 2 all the way.

Haven't paid a cent in LoL to acquire champions. Just use the points you earn every game, save up and then buy!

Although there are free champ rotations every week, most of us will find one or two champs that we really like and connect with. I find the fact that I use my points earned to acquire them makes them feel 'mine' and exclusive. The only thing in LoL that involves money to buy are the unique skins for each champion. Just a cosmetic change to make your champ more exclusive....but go ahead and buy one if you like the game so as to support the developers and put food on their table.

1 thing for sure, last hitting in DOTA2 is so much easier, I bet a lot start to spam the S button just to hear the sound and animation and it's so much for fun. I say this is one of the part which makes DOTA 2 so addictive to play xD Try it yourself before denying this statement. Ask all the hardcore/pro, they most likely agree to this.

I think some prefer more over DOTA because of it's complexity. You could manipulate lane creep even you dont have control over them, stuff such as blocking creep, pull or double pull creep, stack creep, denying whole wave of creep etc makes the game more fun since there is a lot stuff you could do, which gives you different outcome. When I play LOL, I feel so not natural in last hitting, I keep on tries to block the creep which I know I couldn't, I even try to deny and as well I couldn't.

Another factor for DOTA players not switching over LoL is that they had to relearn everything they learn from DOTA. Stuff above like I mentioned and about the runes etc and ability to hide in grass etc, warding spots.

been playing dota before <5.84b and still have the 1st smm dota shirt in keep . i think it was year 2004

then when s2 hon is out tried the beta but dont feel good since more familiar with dota heroes and alot of hon pre released hero are dota ripped off except the first few s2 heroes. End up quiting after few days and continue to play dota until gayrena got the copyright for LoL and HoN for SEA region so tested both out.

Currently gayrena hon have afew 1800+mmr account, main account was 1900+ mmr but dropped after too much newbie player screwing the game mostly pinoy. On gayrena LoL have a lvl 30 account but the game is too bored and slow paced so pretty much stop playing. Tested Dota2 on my friends account and theres only afew heroes available to play and the game still lose to HoN in the speed factor.

best moba currently HoN>Dota2>LoL>Dota
I choose HoN bcoz its more fast paced than all other Moba in game but once Dota2 goes live it pretty much gonna be the champ with those early USD1Million tourny and Valve probably gonna improve the delay of Dota2.

and before u make any conclusion go make an account on the game and atleast get to the highest bracket for each game then only u give a comment about it since i know alot that complaining about the other games just only played for afew games and probably havent even reach the minimum stage of the game.

that might be true on earlier phase of HoN. it's been a really long while since hon last port a dota hero. and also since then there's a lot of changes and remakes are done on lots of dota ports and items as well as some various other stuff like the secret shop and runes. unlike dota 2 that is confined to bring the old dota just for a graphical upgrade hon is free to tweak some parts deemed suitable such as the game pacing, clockwerk's/pharaoh's cogs/wall etc. all these makes hon less and less interchangeable to dota/dota2 as it progress.

LoL is getting big in KR...
sanctioned by KESPA and big prize pool is flowing there...
Fruitdealer is coaching the StarTale's LoL team now lolx

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having played all 3 games, i would say LoL feels different from the other two...
it dumb-ed down some stuffs but open up so many more possibilities...

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This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 7 2012, 12:11 AM

And - lets be honest here - for me, all i really wanted, was a true to original dota, graphical upgrade only DotA. Not some spinoff with some DotA Hero in it with misc. mechanics.

I think that stands true for quite an amount of players too.

yep everyone have their preferences. true dota fans will stick to dota/dota2 while lol and hon both have a crowd of their own. as long as they don't overlap with each other too much then i guess theres not much issue here. heck one can even play all 3 if they wanted. variety is a good thing no?

please please please i need a party... fed up playing with noobs.

It was I think WCG or some other big gaming event last year. I don't remember. I do remember however that the game became such a farmfest even the commentators had nothing to comment on except until late in the game. Farmfest as compared to other games in the genre (HoN, Dota). The way the games work currently, wards is a must in all mid-high level pub games and pro games(competitive)..

I remember reading an interview a year ago one of the top players in the ladder stating that the game is against the ganking meta game. Sorry but I can't dig up the source already. Also, during last year, the number 1 player in the ladder is a HoN pro that played in LoL for just 3 or 4 months with the sponsor of Riot Games(he get unlimited IP or CP(?). Needless to say, his opinion on the game was "trash" too.

I apologize if I seemed biased or whatever. Just stating my opinion as a old player of Dota( since 2008) LoL ( since international closed beta) and HoN (2009 5th batch of closed beta). I still play all 3 games since my friends are playing in all 3 games.

That dude is probably Chu8, dude climbed the ladder with one of the no-one-use champ, Maokai. I assume he's back to HoN now?

imo the idea behind LoL is "Everyone is imba, so no one is truly imba".
The ethos behind that in itself is so skewed.

I could play AP Sion and almost KO any hero in 2 sec nuke burst every single time.

yeah just like how i can use banshee + lots of MR and rape u everytime with my champ.....

lol everything got a counter.....

sion usually banned in ranked game anyway

This post has been edited by archonixm: Mar 26 2012, 05:51 AM

my point is, you cant do that in dota.
2 sec nuke burst and a hero is down to 10% of his life if not dead.
Deathfire Grasp is by far the most imbalanced item in LoL.

Hon > Dota2 > LoL

Dota 2 is just heavy and slow..and it looks depressing.

<3 dota 2

er mortred with burize and basher able to ministun + crit u and u r dead in 1 sec if crit 2x hahaha.

What a fallacious statement.
Are you some kind of lol fanboy?
pa is a late game agi carry, we are debating over how imbalance LoL version of dagon which scales late game and great even against tanks.

This post has been edited by nightshade_nova: Mar 26 2012, 08:17 PM

Crit does not stack.

Buriza overwrite your ulti if you pickup your buriza after leveling your ulti. If buriza triggers, your ulti wont trigger. If your buriza doesnt triggers, your ulti might trigger. It's like 2 level but which ever you obtained last, that is the 1st level to check first.

WC3's pseudo random generator is kinda hard to hit 2 times crit in a row. If you got 25% chance, you start off with 6.67, then add another 6.67 until you crit, then it reset back to 6.67. Which means the 2nd crits you get falls at that 6.67% region which is quite small chance I say.

Back to topic, you can nuke down 1 hero to death, normally not solo unless you got too many item and your opponent is too slim or under level. Tiny is probably the hero which can nuke down 1 hero in 1 second. using that 12 combo. That normally applies to support hero,late game not really.

This post has been edited by sasaug: Mar 26 2012, 09:04 PM

definitely my favourite is still DOTA2 even after playing HoN and LoL for a while