I think another reason why my brother prefer LoL because it's very fast paced. Even faster than HoN with fast MM system. Usually fast paced game doesn't tax too much your thinking and time, which suit my brother style.

have to agree on HoN being fast paced but i think the metagame for Dota 2 for our region is slowly changing

i was able to get a few games to end within 30 mins which is quite a feat if you compared with a farmfest of >40 min

haha the MM system got nothing to do with the game pace lulz. for faster paced game hon does have the casual mode (lol mode if u ask me ) which sports faster leveling up to midgame, no gold penalty on death and no experience penalty from creep denies. as it makes ganking/hero killing a lot more important than farming/denying and as the risk of losing gold upon death is absent, it encourages aggressive play. farmed heroes will snowball easily and be very hard to stop hence usually the game is decided and ended faster than normal mode. the only downside is that the game isn't balanced based on that mode. personally i found the mode really fun and i play it on nostats game when my usual friends is not online. really a good mode to attract new players, especially those from lol

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Added on February 23, 2012, 6:54 pmthe game pace is one thing, another is like what kambing69 said, the mechanics (not even sure its the right word) itself that is faster. heroes attack/spell animation and reflex/feedback is faster than the ones in dota. i might be wrong since it's been a while since i last play dota but what i remember when switching back to playing dota i have a minor difficulty to readjust the timing to lasthit/deny etc. everything feels slower and cumbersome as if you lower the gamespeed setting in older games. ofc, this is not a bad thing, just a matter of preference. on the other hand it does makes it harder for newer player to get used to the game. i remember being like "what the eff just happened?" when getting ganked or going into team clashes during my early experience with hon.

This post has been edited by Shadow Kun: Feb 23 2012, 06:54 PM

LOL fast paced? you mean having the HEAL + SPEED BOOST spell at LVL1 for FREE? How to GANK??? BORING like hell man. its a stupid farmfest. just watch the competitive LoL ( competitive? LOL) and its just farmfests all game.

Dota 2.... definitely the meta-game is affected by the SEA HoN players that got the beta keys. In HoN everybody likes to gank. Ganking is very fun compared to farming for >40 mins. atm HoN is just a better polished game compared to Dota 2 and LoL. HoN doesn't have input delay like Dota 2 and the mechanics and engine is very smooth.

Lulz...the title have LoL too now.
It was just Dota2 vs HoN the first time.

Anyway, I stand firm that Dota2 is better just cos the developer is better at hearing the community.
Just look at HoN.Ppl has been clamoring that its unfair to have limited hero pool, but they still do it for profit.
I believe that Valve as developers are better listeners, and wont go against the voice of majority.(and their decisions are surely wont be purely profit driven)

Well, to those of you who said HoN has alot of "ah bengs", you guys probably are still in <1700PSR/MMR range. When you reach 1750PSR/MMR range, rarely I will encounter the so-called "ah bengs" and the real thing starts from here. Plus, DOTA has way too many childish act in game

a wide percentage of the local gaming community for ARTS game is just not mature enough

For those who said LOL is boring. Its only because u play it like dota.

LOL is with a whole new game concept, Blue, Red, Dragon, Baron etc. Go watch some of the competitive match for LOL. If u simply farm up and kill (dota style) LOL is not for you. Oh, and if u just want gank, LOL is not for you too.

Also, currently LOL is more internationally support with bigger community atm as compare with HON. Even recent IEM or WCG opt to go for LOL.

I can understand alot of ppl play dota and remain a fans of it until now. I havent try Hon and dota 2 so i cant comment on gameplay.

But one thing for sure, you wont avoid ah beng in any of the game, because some of the ah beng dunno they are ah beng and they are rich too. Free to play or not wont deter them. Ah Beng is everywhere.

Anyway, do you know? LOL is immensely popular in US, Europe and Korea now?

Anyway, to share with everyone, watch IEM KIEV FINALS TSM VS M5 Game at youtube. Total 3 games.

I come from wow background, to me, LOL with mastery and runes, + summoner spell is more appealing to me than Hon atm.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Feb 26 2012, 09:50 AM

From MB Carmac (esports manager IEM) about HON/DOTA players saying LoL is lame and casual.

hmmm... i think so called" bes game" in between tis 3 will be revealed.. when dota 2 officially released ^^...

btw jus cont pick which game suits wanna see more reasons xP

It's gankable in most of the pub matches so unless you are a professional, you won't feel bored. They play safe because it's tournament and they don't want to risk too much. I didn't touch DotA 2 and only played a day of HoN so I can't comment much without sounding like a freaking fanboy but you don't farm for >40 mins in LoL, just saying. Pro matches are a lot different than the commoner matches.

This post has been edited by Goliath764: Feb 27 2012, 07:48 PM

I tried almost everything in the MOBA genre. LoL/ HoN/ Dota/ Dota 2 and even rise of immortals.

I started dota back in 5.84b or c days. Playing it for fun and with friends only.

I played HON during it's beta for like 1-2 months, it is a bit fast paced but everyone was considering it like the new dota and some of my friends wanted to switch over. It was like DOTA 2 at that time. Few months back I tried HON again and still I feel everything is much faster and I don't really like much about it. HON feels darker as well.

I only tried LoL co-op vs bot and for PvP I only did that during the vs GM event in my uni. Errr, team fight wise is all ok but maybe I don't have much understanding about the game like items and I really hate the limited heroes idea so I just play vs bot for fun. I like the graphic with a bolded outline, probably the only reason why I'm playing it.

Then I got Dota 2 , one of the earliest in LYN who get it, first batch in hardware survey. After trying it, yes I love it more than everything else mentioned. Everything feels better in DOTA2 compare to DOTA.

For now, I'll just play dota and dota2 depends where my friends are. DOTA 2 surely makes everything feels better, the game is smooth, the graphic and animation is nice as well. The game feel much more alive in DOTA 2 compare back to DOTA. Just like everything about it.

well said xP

I disagree fully. Sorry. LoL is a farmfest with summoner spells like the free blink. You can't deny the facts. They do not play safe because of not wanting to risk, it's just that ganking in LoL is just a waste of time. Many pro players agree.

Anyways enjoy your game while I enjoy mine. Have fun. Good thing we can choose since both are free.

Played since dota 6.2 :3

I played HoN for some time and didn't really like it because the lack of contrast compare to Dota or Dota2. I mean if they person Ultied or cast a spell, i wouldn't know until it's too late because it's hard to see when that happens.

Dota2 feels great but it needs time to finetune the hardware performance

What I know is that these games make players become aggressive.

Not sure about Dota 2 community. HoN community is full of Sohai, assholes and retards.

I can accept your point of not liking LoL but I don't like your tone to be blunt, maybe you just based your judgement just by watching LoL game but not play it. Anyway, I disagree that free blink = ungankable because well, enemy have heal + flash(blink), you have heal + flash too, he blink u blink and follow, and you will get the kill. As I said tournament are different and also pro players are very hard to gank not because the free blink as you said is OP, it's because of other factors like warding and clairvoyance stuff and well, unless you are playing at the pro level which probably only cover 5% of the entire LoL population, gank is do-able and kills are in a good amount in a game.

But then I guess HoN is a gankfest and I guess after you play HoN, anything else is a farmfest. So cheer mate.

Like, who are those pro players?

+1 to Goliath for putting forth a good argument supported by examples.

Personally, FatalExe, your post sounds nothing more like a rant without much backing. Free blink and Heal renders someone ungankable? I'm sure you haven't tried it because the you have Flash too, and Ignite cancels out their heal.

And I'm sure you're referencing competitive pro tournaments rather than the average game as you brand it a farmfest. A farmfest as compared to...? It's like saying competitive play is a wardfest. Which can also be true.

And I find the last statement 'many pros agree'. Just for reference, who are these 'pros'? Unles of course you consider yourself and your friends to be pros, and this statement is actually a reflection of your group's sentiments.

I have switched from LoL from HoN, mainly because my friends play LoL and it feels different from the usual DotA/HoN. So far in the LoL games i played there's alot of ganking, with masteries/runes and summoner spells adding some depth into the game.

Having played HoN, the community there seems a tad worse then LoL, with guys blaming each other all the time when they didn't see a gank coming (even with wards in place..) and farmers that literally farm creeps while there's a clash just next to them. It's great fun when everyone knows what they are doing though. Btw the games played are within the 1750-1850 MMR range.

I am lookin forward to DotA 2 though xD Just choose the game that most of your friends play.