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ru40342
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Sep 4 2020, 04:42 AM
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Quotes from several banks for saga premium 30k 5 years:
Rhb 3.05 Ambank 3.07 Cimb 3.1 Pbb 3.05
Borrower is a govt servant without any outstanding loan, never late payment in previous loans and salary 5.5k average. Rates reasonable?
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ru40342
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Sep 4 2020, 12:38 PM
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URGENT!
Is there a compulsory insurance for hire purchase loan (called Auto life insurance?)
After I successfully applied for a loan with Affin Bank, the officer told me I need to pay an equivalent of 0.132% of compulsory insurance for my loan in case I am not able to pay the installment due to death / serious permanent injury.
Also, the money will NOT be return to me even if I can pay all the installments.
I have bought 4 (perodua) cars before and never once were forced to buy a compulsory insurance for car loan
Please help!!!! Thank you
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ru40342
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Sep 6 2020, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(buncho89 @ Sep 6 2020, 12:33 PM) mine under maybank they did offer but said not compulsary..better you check again or ask other bank for loan... Thanks for the info, have done so and waiting for the approval.
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ru40342
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Sep 6 2020, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(diners @ Sep 6 2020, 06:14 PM) loooooooooooong ago (Sept 2015 in exact), applied HP with PBB for 2nd hand myvi 35k only.. but compulsory to buy the hire purchase decreasing term assurance RM200++ one off, for me okay lah, why not. cuz if anything happen to me, at least people who leave behind wont suffer... recently with HLB, not compulsory but i requested, so... assuming u loan 100k and if this is a one off, which is around RM132 for peace of mind, i would lah  Thanks for your inputs but I wrote wrongly. It is 0.132% per year which is 0.924% if loan for 7 years or 0.66% if loan is 5 years. I can understand the benefits but I think that should be optional. Personally I don't think it is worth it coz the loan period is only few years. For me mrta for mortgage loan makes much more sense coz the loan period is much longer.
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ru40342
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Sep 6 2020, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(diners @ Sep 6 2020, 10:28 PM) dangggg if it's per year then too much already x.x! and yes, mrta/mlta to mortgage makes much more sense... Yeah. Plus, I am told some got even higher. I heard PBB charges close to 1.5% insurance in total. That's ridiculous imo. This post has been edited by ru40342: Sep 6 2020, 11:28 PM
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ru40342
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Sep 6 2020, 11:27 PM
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double post
This post has been edited by ru40342: Sep 6 2020, 11:27 PM
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ru40342
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Sep 14 2020, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 14 2020, 01:18 PM) so, you have to buy insurance to cover the bank's potential loss if the borrower dies; whilst the car legally still belongs to the bank = the bank take no risk at all and borrower pays all costs  That's the thing. I think under certain conditions the car will belong to my family if I die or under very specific permanent disabilities but these conditions are basically impossible to meet. I did fight very hard and eventually was able to avoid buying it. I would recommend against such nonsense if other people are offered the same bs thing when they take car loan in the future.
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ru40342
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Sep 14 2020, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Sep 14 2020, 01:52 PM) HP Life, offered by the bank, is an insurance plan to pay off the remaining loan in event of the owner's death or Permanent disability. The ownership of the car will then be passed on to the next of kin /beneficiary named in the policy. Yes, on one hand, it protects the bank's interest, but on the other, it also helps the next of kin, who needs the car as a mode of transport. Would strongly advice to take it, if the car is a family car, often shared by the spouse and/or the spouse stands as a guarantor for the loan. Because in event of the owners' death/permanent disability, the guarantor is liable to settle the loan anyway and such a protection would be a welcome relief. Permanent disability is a generous term. It only covers very very few examples of permanent disability. Some don't even cover blindness or lost of 1 limb. For that amount of insurance money, It is hard to argue that the money is worth the risk involved, unless the borrower is very old.
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ru40342
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Sep 14 2020, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 14 2020, 02:01 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
or you can let the bank repossess the car; why pay to cover the banks potential losses since car value depreciates unlike a property do all HP loans require guarantors? QUOTE(Buydirect @ Sep 14 2020, 02:02 PM) Yes, you are right, the bank can always repossess the car. However, if any family member eg spouse had stood as a guarantor, the bank would first demand that the guarantor continues to service the loan. If the guarantor fails to do so, the car would be auctioned off, and if there is any shortfall in the auction price and balance loan settlement, the guarantor would be responsible for it. The last thing for someone who had lost their love one ever wanted, is to also bear the consequences of the deceased liabilities, house, cars etc... Not taking responsibility of it could also affect the credit worthiness of the guarantor, because after all, life has to go on.... With that information, the insurance money is almost like a scam really. No matter how hard someone argues, auto loan insurance is NOT WORTH the money paid. This post has been edited by ru40342: Sep 14 2020, 02:07 PM
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ru40342
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Sep 14 2020, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 14 2020, 01:46 PM) its not right cos the bank owns the car until 100% paid up; if borrower defaults, for whatever reason, the bank can repossess the car and sell off to recoup the money same like those mrta etc., Yup. agree
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ru40342
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Sep 14 2020, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Sep 14 2020, 03:22 PM) To each, his own then, depending on your situation i.e single or married / loan with guarantor or without/ young or old/sharing car or not. I have personally had a customer who, after her husband had passed on, contacted me to check if they have bought any HP auto life, or she would loose the car she needs to the bank. I can understand the situation but the thing is that the ratio of the insurance premium to loan amount and the coverage + unable to reclaim the insurance money if no claim is made after the loan payment period = waste of money. I am not saying it is useless. I am saying the coverage and the insurance premium is unreasonable and it makes much more financial sense to avoid it. This post has been edited by ru40342: Sep 14 2020, 05:43 PM
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