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post Feb 13 2012, 07:26 PM, updated 14y ago

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Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
reconciliing their Chinese cultural heritage with their religion?

Who is one of them? Or know your friends who are from this group? Need help on this topic..Thanks thanks.. =) thumbup.gif
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:27 PM

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post Feb 13 2012, 07:27 PM

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post Feb 13 2012, 07:28 PM

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why u want to know?
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:29 PM

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One of my topics to write about..anyone know of them????
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:30 PM

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My lecturer married one, but he's half Chinese himself so there weren't much problems I guess.
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:32 PM

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the most kesian case in Malaysia.
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:34 PM

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y dont u ask Mr. Ridhuan Teh Abdullah
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:35 PM

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my former housemate is muslim chinese, if he celebrate chinese new year maybe just to celebrate it in order to make his friends happy, nothing beyond than that.
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(kica @ Feb 13 2012, 08:30 PM)
thanks thanks..any idea to contact the first person in kosmo news?
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:37 PM

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No big deal.. married to a chinese, went for family CNY.. its a culture thing.. this is common already.. all my daughters look like japanese and korean ... im a fair malay btw
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:38 PM

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Ridhuan Tee Abdullah.
But seriously if you want to convert to Islam, better do at oversea.
Here in Malaysia, stupid katak Meleis eventhough Islam they still racist against mualaf.

Google for a case where a Chinese Muslim want to pay at the mosque but they were denied because they Chinese.
That's why mualaf always come back to their old religion.
Sad but true.

But this is only a small percentage case in Malaysia.
The best way in Malaysia for mualaf is go to JAKIM and get a guidance from them.

QUOTE(kica @ Feb 13 2012, 07:36 PM)
This is a good place to start also. smile.gif

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QUOTE(omong @ Feb 13 2012, 08:34 PM)
y dont u  ask Mr. Ridhuan Teh Abdullah
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Feb 13 2012, 08:35 PM)
my former housemate is muslim chinese, if he celebrate chinese new year maybe just to celebrate it in order to make his friends happy, nothing beyond than that.
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Can I have ur former housemate to contact and ask about that opinion?? thanks.
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:40 PM

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Can convert masuk islam, but no need to change surname to abdullah. Just keep the existing name.
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(l2dupe @ Feb 13 2012, 07:38 PM)
Ridhuan Tee Abdullah.
But seriously if you want to convert to Islam, better do at oversea.
Here in Malaysia, stupid katak Meleis eventhough Islam they still racist against mualaf.

Google for a case where a Chinese Muslim want to pay at the mosque but they were denied because they Chinese.
That's why mualaf always come back to their old religion.
Sad but true.

But this is only a small percentage case in Malaysia.
The best way in Malaysia for mualaf is go to JAKIM and get a guidance from them.
This is a good place to start also. smile.gif
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thats why...the most kesian case in malaysia.
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(kica @ Feb 13 2012, 08:36 PM)
Ohhhhh..that really helpful..somemore they have branch in ipoh... Like you.. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:42 PM

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I have a chinese muslim friend. His father is chinese but his mother is malay. He celebrates chinese new year and most of his friends and buddies are chinese. Back to then, he studied agama Islam but he fails almost every time. I guess he more comfortable with chinese culture than his religion.
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Ermmmm..who is he??  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(l2dupe @ Feb 13 2012, 07:38 PM)
Ridhuan Tee Abdullah.
But seriously if you want to convert to Islam, better do at oversea.
Here in Malaysia, stupid katak Meleis eventhough Islam they still racist against mualaf.

Google for a case where a Chinese Muslim want to pay at the mosque but they were denied because they Chinese.
That's why mualaf always come back to their old religion.
Sad but true.

But this is only a small percentage case in Malaysia.
The best way in Malaysia for mualaf is go to JAKIM and get a guidance from them.
This is a good place to start also. smile.gif
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Ini isolated incident............ sad.gif

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QUOTE(Michael_Light @ Feb 13 2012, 08:42 PM)
I have a chinese muslim friend. His father is chinese but his mother is malay. He celebrates chinese new year and most of his friends and buddies are chinese. Back to then, he studied agama Islam but he fails almost every time. I guess he more comfortable with chinese culture than his religion.
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Ooo..could you get me his words on this opinion? need to write like a news report.. ><
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post Feb 13 2012, 07:52 PM

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one question, can chinese muslim or Indian muslim become Malaysia PM?
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Feb 13 2012, 07:40 PM)
Can convert masuk islam, but no need to change surname to abdullah. Just keep the existing name.
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err abdullah is used for bin not family name doh.gif

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QUOTE(simonlws @ Feb 13 2012, 07:52 PM)
one question, can chinese muslim or Indian muslim become Malaysia PM?
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Indian muslim become PM.... go see Mahathir Muhamad.
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one question, can i increase the amount of stupidity in this thread?
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post Feb 13 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(katejing @ Feb 13 2012, 07:38 PM)
Ermmmm..who is he??  hmm.gif
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he always jadi penceramah about agama islam..quite famous yo
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QUOTE(Michael_Light @ Feb 13 2012, 07:42 PM)
I have a chinese muslim friend. His father is chinese but his mother is malay. He celebrates chinese new year and most of his friends and buddies are chinese. Back to then, he studied agama Islam but he fails almost every time. I guess he more comfortable with chinese culture than his religion.
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I think this kind of situation only happened in sabah/s'wak

QUOTE(simonlws @ Feb 13 2012, 07:52 PM)
one question, can chinese muslim or Indian muslim become Malaysia PM?
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about the name, the new rules doesnt need one to change name at all
you can retain the chinese name if u wish
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post Feb 13 2012, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(katejing @ Feb 13 2012, 07:26 PM)
Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
reconciliing their Chinese cultural heritage with their religion?

Who is one of them? Or know your friends who are from this group? Need help on this topic..Thanks thanks.. =)  thumbup.gif
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I am a Chinese Muslim, I do celebrate Chinese New Year as a culture. I know few Chinese Muslims also like that.


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post Feb 13 2012, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Feb 13 2012, 08:00 PM)
Indian muslim become PM.... go see Mahathir Muhamad.
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next u'll see chinese muslim as PM?
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QUOTE(katejing @ Feb 13 2012, 07:26 PM)
Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
reconciliing their Chinese cultural heritage with their religion?

Who is one of them? Or know your friends who are from this group? Need help on this topic..Thanks thanks.. =)  thumbup.gif
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those consist of chinese who regret fucuk a muslim or cant stand the temptation hence married.
they kononya muslim but nvr practice it anyway.
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post Feb 13 2012, 08:29 PM

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i dun remember its address but there's one in seremban 2, by the name of Victory restaurant... not sure the shop full name though... just want to share.
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post Feb 13 2012, 08:32 PM

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The most famous Chinese Muslim restaurant is Village Park at DU.
Best nasi lemak ever.
Even Mahathir, Muhiyideen, Najib and Rosmah go thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tednet @ Feb 13 2012, 08:29 PM)
i dun remember its address but there's one in seremban 2, by the name of Victory restaurant... not sure the shop full name though... just want to share.
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Its kuetiaw goreng is to die for.im from seremban too.haha
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 13 2012, 07:42 PM)
This guy. Horrible la. Have you seen those Forum Perdana Islam in TV1 before? U look at him and hear his words then u know why even Meleis hate him. His worse trait is cracking nonsense jokes and then expect the guest to LOL with him. Not only that, the way he talks and generally movement its like he almost 99% believe he was born meleis. I occasionally jump to this channel to see how he makes himself stupid when my other shows are in advertisment. doh.gif
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QUOTE(omong @ Feb 13 2012, 07:34 PM)
y dont u  ask Mr. Ridhuan Teh Abdullah
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Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
reconciliing their Chinese cultural heritage with their religion?

Who is one of them? Or know your friends who are from this group? Need help on this topic..Thanks thanks.. =)  thumbup.gif
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a group? you think their are some sort of cult isnt?
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abdullah badawi?
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QUOTE(katejing @ Feb 13 2012, 07:26 PM)
Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
reconciliing their Chinese cultural heritage with their religion?

Who is one of them? Or know your friends who are from this group? Need help on this topic..Thanks thanks.. =)  thumbup.gif
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Islam = Religion

Chinese = Race


even u convert ..u still chinese


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QUOTE(ticke @ Feb 13 2012, 08:22 PM)
next u'll see chinese muslim as PM?
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No issues here.

Biologically half chinese myself. laugh.gif (Mom's side) laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ticke @ Feb 13 2012, 08:22 PM)
next u'll see chinese muslim as PM?
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I spent CNY just like any normal Cainais . No difference whatsoever lol
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:38 PM)
Islam = Religion

Chinese = Race
even u convert ..u still chinese
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QUOTE(Gabranth @ Feb 13 2012, 09:35 PM)
a group? you think their are some sort of cult isnt?
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Sorry for the word if not suitable..just like religious group..what i meant.. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(AOL24 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:42 PM)
I spent CNY just like any normal Cainais . No difference whatsoever lol
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ain't chinese new year without pork, beer and gamble. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:38 PM)
Islam = Religion

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even u convert ..u still chinese
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my late father is chinese muslim ... we do celebrate CNY as usual .... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Feb 13 2012, 08:43 PM)
ain't chinese new year without pork, beer and gamble. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Feb 13 2012, 08:43 PM)
ain't chinese new year without pork, beer and gamble. whistling.gif
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pork change to chicken or other lo

beer = islamic beer? (maybe)

gamble? = play chess lar


still can happy happy what
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Feb 13 2012, 08:45 PM)
Can eat chicken  brows.gif
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i come from a interracial marriage family and look very much like a chinese ....we do celebrate hari raya n cny...like normal people....its d though that counts...cz its d matter of culture nt religeon
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QUOTE(l2dupe @ Feb 13 2012, 07:38 PM)
Ridhuan Tee Abdullah.
But seriously if you want to convert to Islam, better do at oversea.
Here in Malaysia, stupid katak Meleis eventhough Islam they still racist against mualaf.

Google for a case where a Chinese Muslim want to pay at the mosque but they were denied because they Chinese.
That's why mualaf always come back to their old religion.
Sad but true.

But this is only a small percentage case in Malaysia.
The best way in Malaysia for mualaf is go to JAKIM and get a guidance from them.
This is a good place to start also. smile.gif
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can u get the sources bc i never heard of it.even if it is happen , it is a rare case.
mualaf always welcome in malaysia, and new muslim usually have strong will since they find Islam with their heart.
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I didn't know LYN also got many rojak and also Chinese Muslim. Nice! =)
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QUOTE(liverpool2020 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:51 PM)
got bumi right o not ?
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Titi Serong ADUN in Perak and PAS member.. Idham Lim is chinese muslim
http://idhamlim.blogspot.com/

so does Dato’ Anuar Tan Abdullah . Kelantan State Exco
http://pru12.pas.org.my/index.php?option=c...ask=view&id=273

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QUOTE(liverpool2020 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:51 PM)
got bumi right o not ?
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should got ..i dunno you convert u got or not ..but confirm your next generation is bumi
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I didn't know LYN also got many rojak and also Chinese Muslim. Nice! =)
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i din even know that kelantan chinese muslim association is exist and they doing business with mainland china, until i met 1 of them.
most of the state got chinese muslim associations.
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interracial marriage is common back then..
remember the event where that Johor royalty adopt 10 chinese babies..
U can find many malay with very chinese looking in johor..

but nowadays I think there is lesser malay-chinese marriages
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Feb 13 2012, 08:47 PM)
can u get the sources bc i never heard of it.even if it is happen , it is a rare case.
mualaf always welcome in malaysia, and new muslim usually have strong will since they find Islam with their heart.
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Oh this did happen. But the main medias did not report it for obvious reasons. The only news u hear is the Chinese want to build a Chinese mosque. Now doesn't that tell you something of what went on to cause such a thing? rolleyes.gif
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CNY is not even a religious celebration, why can't a muslim chinese celebrate?

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QUOTE(azerak @ Feb 13 2012, 08:32 PM)
Its kuetiaw goreng is to die for.im from seremban too.haha
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Added on February 13, 2012, 8:57 pmaiyooo dun be katak in a botol lar...

even in china also got lots of Muslim...

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pipu will say they betray thier race and culture
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should got ..i dunno you convert u got or not ..but confirm your next generation is bumi
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QUOTE(katejing @ Feb 13 2012, 07:26 PM)
Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
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CNY?? damn difficult to buy during this CNY. all shops closed! Town also like being hit by tsunami!! Lowyat also like
haunted place.

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I didn't know LYN also got many rojak and also Chinese Muslim. Nice! =)
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eeerrr.....why is it nicer to have Chinese Muslims compared to Chinese Christians/Buddhist? hmm.gif
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then can become PM or not
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then can become PM or not
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unless you marry malay girl = your son can. consider malay d.
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It is nicer for him to meet their friends.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Feb 13 2012, 09:01 PM)
eeerrr.....why is it nicer to have Chinese Muslims compared to Chinese Christians/Buddhist?  hmm.gif
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my friend's mom is a chinese muslim. she's been exiled by her family/relatives and now living with her husband in perak. she's quite a devoted muslim, so i don't think she celebrates cny anymore. some of her sister/brother have converted to islam too (exiled). my friend although mixed hangs out with the malays most of the time. can speak mandarin too.


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QUOTE(light bulb @ Feb 13 2012, 10:19 PM)
my friend's mom is a chinese muslim. she's been exiled by her family/relatives and now living with her husband in perak. she's quite a devoted muslim, so i don't think she celebrates cny anymore. some of her sister/brother have converted to islam too (exiled). my friend although mixed hangs out with the malays most of the time. can speak mandarin too.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:38 PM)
Islam = Religion

Chinese = Race
even u convert ..u still chinese
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Bro, how about:

Culture = ?

Lifestyle = ?
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QUOTE(katejing @ Feb 13 2012, 09:24 PM)
exiled? It sounds serious and pity..
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unfortunately, yeah..
there is some cases end up like that..
some of the parents think that masuk islam = masuk melayu
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QUOTE(neutral87 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:29 PM)
unfortunately, yeah..
there is some cases end up like that..
some of the parents think that masuk islam = masuk melayu
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:28 PM)
Bro, how about:

Culture = ?

Lifestyle = ?
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TS, even if they convert, they still celebrate cny

btw most mualaf i know is from perak
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QUOTE(neutral87 @ Feb 13 2012, 10:29 PM)
unfortunately, yeah..
there is some cases end up like that..
some of the parents think that masuk islam = masuk melayu
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The most valid reason of Chinese parents against it is that they somehow loss a child.

Their grandchild no longer bear the same surname.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:33 PM)
The most valid reason of Chinese parents against it is that they somehow loss a child.

Their grandchild no longer bear the same surname.
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thats was before
now no need change name
although need to change name, they usually retain the family name..
some of them still pass the family name to the son/daughter

TS, u shud download this:
http://www.teamaryzs.com/2011/12/4-hijrah-...tvrip-xvid.html

download that ep2, she's chinese muslim
that Loo Jo Yee is very young when convert, plus she's cute too brows.gif

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exile is common situation for religion convert people get from family, even if malay convert to christian, their will exile them.
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QUOTE(neutral87 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:38 PM)
thats was before
now no need change name

TS, u shud download this:
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download that ep2, she's chinese muslim
that Loo Jo Yee is very young when convert, plus she's cute too brows.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:28 PM)
Bro, how about:

Culture = ?

Lifestyle = ?
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no problem but kenot drink beer no more... something like that.. just make sure it comply
with Islam. Malay also got culture and lifestyle what .. and it different from the Arabs.
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malay convert christian sure exiled lor,
i think no parents can accept..haha

yeah, its common perception for malaysian muslim to have arabic-based name,
but in china they dont use arabic based name very much..

i wonder how indonesian chinese cope by cant having chinese name..
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wats the problem/?

chinese celebrate racial celebration, then hari raya celebrate religion celebration la
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Feb 13 2012, 07:37 PM)
No big deal.. married to a chinese, went for family CNY.. its a culture thing.. this is common already.. all my daughters look like japanese and korean ... im a fair malay btw
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This guy. Horrible la. Have you seen those Forum Perdana Islam in TV1 before? U look at him and hear his words then u know why even Meleis hate him. His worse trait is cracking nonsense jokes and then expect the guest to LOL with him. Not only that, the way he talks and generally movement its like he almost 99% believe he was born meleis. I occasionally jump to this channel to see how he makes himself stupid when my other shows are in advertisment.  doh.gif
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if the family remained peace, the children very profit liao..
raya get duit raya, CNY get angpau.. winner
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According to the official census, there were about 40,000 Chinese Muslims in Malaysia as of 2000, mostly converts by request of Malay Muslim family-in-law.
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in Msia its compulsory to convert if you want to marry muslim..
in non-muslim country i dont think its compulsory..
zidane is muslim but her wife isnt,
for non-practitioner convert matter is no big deal..

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:33 PM)
The most valid reason of Chinese parents against it is that they somehow loss a child.

Their grandchild no longer bear the same surname.
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why? in china so many muslim, many of them with Ma surname.

anyway, chinese new year is not a religion event, why got problem?
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why? in china so many muslim, many of them with Ma surname.

anyway, chinese new year is not a religion event, why got problem?
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WOWWWWIIEEE ! who did you marry ? LOL!
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Let me meet those female Chinese Muslims; I want to marry them.

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Please google about Hui people.

They are Mainland Chinese Muslims, they were Muslims before Tanah Melayu went from Hinduism to Islam....

BTW the 1st Muslims in Tanah Melayu were Hui Muslims, in fact MACMA was started by the ancestors of Hui Muslims.

Probably many have seen her on TV3 news before: Shukreen Ma Pin

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She is a descendant of the original CHinese Muslims in Malaysia(meaning they were already muslims and are not converts, in fact they are offended whenever ignorant people call them mualafs....)


Added on February 14, 2012, 3:17 ambtw there'a famous chinese ustaz (no not ridhuan tee) named ann wan seng, he is also muslim and feels there is no reason to change his name to arabic names.

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my sister in law's mother is chinese convert to muslim.

every chinese new year, they go celebrate together. but somehow their non chinese family respect the prohibited food that muslims cant eat and leave them out so all can enjoy together.
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CNY is new year for Chinese in their calendar same as 1st January every year...so it not a religion thingy, it a culture..so no problem at all to celebrate it...
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:37 PM)
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what is holiday to them is legal celebrate loh except Valentine later get caught
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what's the difference between them and the chinese who are christian? how do they reconcile religion and tradition?

inb4 some dont.
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QUOTE(l2dupe @ Feb 13 2012, 07:38 PM)


Google for a case where a Chinese Muslim want to pay at the mosque but they were denied because they Chinese.
That's why mualaf always come back to their old religion.
Sad but true.


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Added on February 14, 2012, 3:17 ambtw there'a famous chinese ustaz (no not ridhuan tee) named ann wan seng, he is also muslim and feels there is no reason to change his name to arabic names.
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and that's where most of muslims in Malaysia (especially Malays, from my observation) confused about it
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My cousin's wife is Australian Chinese. Every CNY, they go back to Adelaide and join CNY Dinner. Her parents in Australia will employ a Muslim Chinese chef to cook the dinner.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Feb 14 2012, 08:23 AM)
what's the difference between them and the chinese who are christian? how do they reconcile religion and tradition?

inb4 some dont.
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QUOTE(nebben @ Feb 14 2012, 04:04 AM)
malay christian anyone???
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 14 2012, 03:14 AM)
She is a descendant of the original CHinese Muslims in Malaysia(meaning they were already muslims and are not converts, in fact they are offended whenever ignorant people call them mualafs....)
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Chinese New Year is celebrated by all Chinese kan?
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Malaysia has citizens who are of Chinese ethnicity but practice Islam. Do they celebrate Chinese New Year? How do they feel about
reconciliing their Chinese cultural heritage with their religion?

Who is one of them? Or know your friends who are from this group? Need help on this topic..Thanks thanks.. =)  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Michael_Light @ Feb 13 2012, 07:42 PM)
I have a chinese muslim friend. His father is chinese but his mother is malay. He celebrates chinese new year and most of his friends and buddies are chinese. Back to then, he studied agama Islam but he fails almost every time. I guess he more comfortable with chinese culture than his religion.
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most chinese who convert is becoz want to get goverment contract or anything that can make them earn easy money ...
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The most common reason is inter-racial marriage.
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IMHO, I support the moslem chinese for Chinese mosque established like beautiful Xian Mosque

then I can eat itik gantung ot nasi ayam hainan with no worries (halal) smile.gif
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My sister is a Chinese Muslim. She ran away from home during highschool and then converted to Muslim under the influence of her "mak angkat" who is also a Chinese Muslim. She got married to a Malay guy last year. I can tell you that things are awkward when we go out with her family. People walk by also turn around to look twice.

During CNY, things are even more awkward with her wearing tudung surrounded by all Chinese relatives.


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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 09:23 AM)
My sister is a Chinese Muslim. She ran away from home during highschool and then converted to Muslim under the influence of her "mak angkat" who is also a Chinese Muslim. She got married to a Malay guy last year. I can tell you that things are awkward when we go out with her family. People walk by also turn around to look twice.

During CNY, things are even more awkward with her wearing tudung surrounded by all Chinese relatives.
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Frankly, I don't mind my sister converting her religion. The problem is that she was still young back then, and her "mak angkat" convinced her to convert without the consent of her real parents. This is like brainwashing which is wrong IMO.

We came into terms with her and her Muslim family, even attended her wedding/kenduri last year along with our relatives.
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 09:32 AM)
Frankly, I don't mind my sister converting her religion. The problem is that she was still young back then, and her "mak angkat" convinced her to convert without the consent of her real parents. This is like brainwashing which is wrong IMO.

We came into terms with her and her Muslim family, even attended her wedding/kenduri last year along with our relatives.
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my bf is a converted chines muslim, he celebrates CNY just like any other. CNY is just a culture thing, not a religious thing. so it's ok to celebrate it. As long as you know the boundaries.
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QUOTE(__mill @ Feb 14 2012, 10:38 AM)
my bf is a converted chines muslim, he celebrates CNY just like any other.  CNY is just a culture thing, not a religious thing. so it's ok to celebrate it. As long as you know the boundaries.
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my bf is a converted chines muslim, he celebrates CNY just like any other.  CNY is just a culture thing, not a religious thing. so it's ok to celebrate it. As long as you know the boundaries.
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QUOTE(__mill @ Feb 14 2012, 09:38 AM)
my bf is a converted chines muslim, he celebrates CNY just like any other.  CNY is just a culture thing, not a religious thing. so it's ok to celebrate it. As long as you know the boundaries.
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So nobody thinks the system is flawed? Anyone is welcome to convert to Islam but not the other way around? How is this fair in a country that claims to have free exercise of religion.
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So nobody thinks the system is flawed? Anyone is welcome to convert to Islam but not the other way around? How is this fair in a country that claims to have free exercise of religion.
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In that case, they should prohibit people to convert in the first place. It's like one way ticket where you join the "darkside" and never to return.

I don't know if there is a specific law in Islam which specify you really can't convert to another religion or does it only happen in Malaysia, where they give tons of excuse and procedure to convert until you give up.
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 09:49 AM)
In that case, they should prohibit people to convert in the first place. It's like one way ticket where you join the "darkside" and never to return.

I don't know if there is a specific law in Islam which specify you really can't convert to another religion or does it only happen in Malaysia, where they give tons of excuse and procedure to convert until you give up.
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 10:49 AM)
In that case, they should prohibit people to convert in the first place. It's like one way ticket where you join the "darkside" and never to return.

I don't know if there is a specific law in Islam which specify you really can't convert to another religion or does it only happen in Malaysia, where they give tons of excuse and procedure to convert until you give up.
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QUOTE(kymanhalim @ Feb 14 2012, 10:54 AM)
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no life that why bored... i noe la... cuz i'm one of it....laugh.gif
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix2 @ Feb 13 2012, 08:55 PM)
Oh this did happen. But the main medias did not report it for obvious reasons. The only news u hear is the Chinese want to build a Chinese mosque. Now doesn't that tell you something of what went on to cause such a thing? rolleyes.gif
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That's quite sad sad.gif

Looking at how things are run here, I wouldn't blame people for thinking masuk islam = masuk melayu.

There's once I went for a hotel check-in with a chinese muslim friend. After registering and stuff, he went to make a phone call. The staffs at the counter and around him asked me things like, "kawan you cina ke melayu? kenapa dia ada nama melayu". I was thinking like, dude, he has an arabic name la, not malay name laugh.gif But I didn't wanna correct them so I just told them that he's a convert. Their faces were like as if they saw a unicorn or something. Some have had this confused look too biggrin.gif
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I know a few Malay friends who don't practise Islamic ways like praying or fasting. They are just Muslim in name only, and deep inside they just wanna have fun like the other races.

Can't say I blame them, Islam does seem to have many restrictions lol.
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 09:59 AM)
I know a few Malay friends who don't practise Islamic ways like praying or fasting. They are just Muslim in name only, and deep inside they just wanna have fun like the other races.

Can't say I blame them, Islam does seem to have many restrictions lol.
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too many... many of them only have fun after their life laugh.gif true or not? XD
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 10:59 AM)
I know a few Malay friends who don't practise Islamic ways like praying or fasting. They are just Muslim in name only, and deep inside they just wanna have fun like the other races.

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well, sometimes me also feel bad, and want to try a life just like others, but when i'm think back about the reward for being sober,patient, and obey all God command's , so i feel so lucky being a muslim brows.gif
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Well, at least you guys get to have a legal harem lol.
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QUOTE(scorps @ Feb 14 2012, 10:03 AM)
well, sometimes me also feel bad, and want to try a life just like others, but when i'm think back about the reward for being sober,patient, and obey all God command's , so i feel so lucky being a muslim  brows.gif
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like god say... "only have fun after life is legal" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Feb 14 2012, 10:04 AM)
Well, at least you guys get to have a legal harem lol.
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Harem? brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(scorps @ Feb 14 2012, 10:05 AM)
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so who wanna have fun? XD
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Feb 13 2012, 11:38 PM)
A kl chinese girl who i met while studying ... cannot tahan if she wears baju kurung.. look so ayu .... take me months to convince her to go out with me... LOL .. worth it.. the rest is history
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history dun tokliao
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post Feb 14 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Genzyme @ Feb 14 2012, 03:10 AM)
kolej insaniah in alor setar there a lot.
i always see them buying groceries in tesco.
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Inshallah, will survey one day.

At the moment, monthly salary barely support myself tongue.gif

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My friend is a Muslim Chinese and his name Andrew Tan. He's still a proud Muslim and a proud Chinese. And celebrating Christmas and CNY with his parents - not a problemo for him.

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Check out my thread I opened about Chinese Muslims from China: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry48973449



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CNY is nothing related to religion. Chinese New Year - the word "Chinese" NOT Buddha New Year. Celebrate by all Chinese people no matter you are Chinese Muslim, Chinese Hindu or Chinese Christian...

I'm a Chinese Muslim. I celebrate CNY and Raya also and also rest of Chinese festival that non religion related.
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QUOTE(hawkl @ Feb 14 2012, 10:39 AM)
CNY is nothing related to religion. Chinese New Year - the word "Chinese" NOT Buddha New Year. Celebrate by all Chinese people no matter you are Chinese Muslim, Chinese Hindu or Chinese Christian...

I'm a Chinese Muslim. I celebrate CNY and Raya also and also rest of Chinese festival that non religion related.
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exactly~ unfortunately most people only assume chinese related celebration = religion ..


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QUOTE(hawkl @ Feb 14 2012, 10:39 AM)
CNY is nothing related to religion. Chinese New Year - the word "Chinese" NOT Buddha New Year. Celebrate by all Chinese people no matter you are Chinese Muslim, Chinese Hindu or Chinese Christian...

I'm a Chinese Muslim. I celebrate CNY and Raya also and also rest of Chinese festival that non religion related.
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Are you converted Chinese or Chinese Muslims from China? In China, the Chinese Muslims celebrate CNY too.
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Chinese can have Christian / Muslim.... No problem.


Malay can ah?
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Feb 14 2012, 10:18 AM)

Inshallah, will survey one day.

At the moment, monthly salary barely support myself  tongue.gif

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Haha, get one that wants to support each other together la wink.gif

If wanna find one that relies on you then susah oh next time laugh.gif

QUOTE(hawkl @ Feb 14 2012, 10:39 AM)
CNY is nothing related to religion. Chinese New Year - the word "Chinese" NOT Buddha New Year. Celebrate by all Chinese people no matter you are Chinese Muslim, Chinese Hindu or Chinese Christian...

I'm a Chinese Muslim. I celebrate CNY and Raya also and also rest of Chinese festival that non religion related.
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Actually, chinese traditions in general are somewhat related to Taoism. So is CNY and some rituals and traditions that people perform.

But of course you don't have to do those.
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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Feb 14 2012, 10:49 AM)
Chinese can have Christian / Muslim.... No problem.
Malay can ah?
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seriously?
u not from Malaysia?
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QUOTE(khelben @ Feb 14 2012, 10:52 AM)
Actually, chinese traditions in general are somewhat related to Taoism. So is CNY and some rituals and traditions that people perform.

But of course you don't have to do those.
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Yes. Me myself is Chinese Christian. I went Qing Ming but i don't use incense or burn paper money, just bring flowers.
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celebrate CNY? no problem. I oso celebrate CNY and I'm not even mixed and my wife is not even chinese. its a distant relative thingy and we celebrate it every year.
as long as we are gather to bring together the family ties, there's no problem...

the only 1 things that matters is halal food and they respect it very much.. and they came to our house for Raya we do not serve beef and we prepare some vegetarian food for some, very very festive every year for both celebration.

what make it weird? ourselves.
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ayem malay but people always say i look cainis, even them malay also once asked me if i cainis.
wadafak mang shakehead.gif not to say being cainis is bad or anything just cuz i dont think i look cainis at all.
well except for my eyes abit sepet shakehead.gif

so can i celebret CNY?
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I'm a chinese muslim and I still visits my chinese relatives for the holidays.
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How come Malaysia cannot be like the mid-east where a christian and a muslim can marry and both can still follow his/her religion (but muslim and buddhist cannot, buddhist must convert) huh?
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QUOTE(slimfox @ Feb 15 2012, 12:41 AM)
How come Malaysia cannot be like the mid-east where a christian and a muslim can marry and both can still follow his/her religion (but muslim and buddhist cannot, buddhist must convert) huh?
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please google about marriage between muslims and ahli kitab (people of the book or in other words Jews/Christians).

in short, in some muslim countries marriages between muslims and christians or jews are allowed.

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QUOTE(slimfox @ Feb 15 2012, 01:41 AM)
How come Malaysia cannot be like the mid-east where a christian and a muslim can marry and both can still follow his/her religion (but muslim and buddhist cannot, buddhist must convert) huh?
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My nenek and auntie are Chinese Muslim. But they are adopted by a Malay family. So they don't really celebrate CNY. But IINM, i had one auntie before, pure chinese, married to my uncle so she converted. I think she did celebrate CNY. I can't remember well cos i was very young that time. But now, after she died, her child, celebrate CNY with her chinese family.

And i had one Chinese Muslim teacher before. Single, idk why covert la. But she does celebrate CNY. She even ordered curry from one of my friends biggrin.gif

But, CNY is not about religion.. so..

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I thought it's a cultural thing. Burning colok also a cultural thing, right? I saw once on TV showing Muslims in China.

QUOTE(CKKwan @ Feb 14 2012, 10:49 AM)
Chinese can have Christian / Muslim.... No problem.
Malay can ah?
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basically, shariah law stated muslim can only marry muslim and ahli kitab,
but i believe the latter option quite rare, only several countries allow like faidzal said..
because most islamic scholar claimed that the original teachings of the religion of the books already corrupted..

but not every country practices shariah law, so muslim and non-muslim marriages is possible..

few pages back someone mentioned muslim can have legal harem..haha
to acquire one is already hard, let alone two..
unless u r seriously richfag like salih yaacob..
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jangan ikut sedap mulut je please
if your not sure or dont understand
dont make assumption and spew crap
about other people's religion

btw in Islam if a son\daughter convert family bond is still there, ties are not cut...still have to take care, respect and can even live together (but with guidelines)



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QUOTE(__mill @ Feb 14 2012, 10:43 AM)
exactly~ unfortunately most people only assume chinese related celebration = religion ..
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Maybe those people are still living in the cave.
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QUOTE(kymanhalim @ Feb 14 2012, 09:10 AM)
same as me smile.gif my mom are chinese and my father are malay... same situation as ur fren biggrin.gif
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Your mom are??
Your father are??

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QUOTE(neutral87 @ Feb 15 2012, 01:07 AM)
basically, shariah law stated muslim can only marry muslim and ahli kitab,
but i believe the latter option quite rare, only several countries allow like faidzal said..
because most islamic scholar claimed that the original teachings of the religion of the books already corrupted..

but not every country practices shariah law, so muslim and non-muslim marriages is possible..

few pages back someone mentioned muslim can have legal harem..haha
to acquire one is already hard, let alone two..
unless u r seriously richfag like salih yaacob..
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yes. In Islam, the women that's halal to you is your wives, limit at 4 only, and your slave girls, which you can have as many as you can afford. So rulers and richfags will buy and hoard slave girls in a harem. This fact was used by anti-islam group to discredit Islam.
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QUOTE(loverboy110 @ Feb 15 2012, 01:47 AM)
Your mom are??
Your father are??
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m0m = chinese

father = malay =..=
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Feb 15 2012, 01:47 AM)
yes. In Islam, the women that's halal to you is your wives, limit at 4 only, and your slave girls, which you can have as many as you can afford. So rulers and richfags will buy and hoard slave girls in a harem. This fact was used by anti-islam group to discredit Islam.
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The problem I see with Muslim harem is that women are usually treated like slaves no matter if you are the official wife or concubine. Malaysia is still OK but men in countries like Pakistan or Afghanistan treat their wives or concubines like dirt.
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QUOTE(neutral87 @ Feb 15 2012, 01:07 AM)
basically, shariah law stated muslim can only marry muslim and ahli kitab,
but i believe the latter option quite rare, only several countries allow like faidzal said..
because most islamic scholar claimed that the original teachings of the religion of the books already corrupted..

but not every country practices shariah law, so muslim and non-muslim marriages is possible..

few pages back someone mentioned muslim can have legal harem..haha
to acquire one is already hard, let alone two..
unless u r seriously richfag like salih yaacob..
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Like I said mid-east meaning arab peninsular. I was in Dubai for a few years. The impression i get is on some aspects we here are more muslim than the arabs!

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