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 Guide me to lose my weight,, in 10 month

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mikehuan
post Feb 6 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 6 2012, 10:51 PM)
Exactly what hormones can you control with nutrient timing?
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insulin
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post Feb 6 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 6 2012, 11:28 PM)
Considering that insulin levels is kept in a tight range in a healthy individuals who are not injecting exogenous hormones, why the need to control it?
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to optimize muscle development and minimize fat gains.
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post Feb 7 2012, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 7 2012, 12:30 AM)
Even if you are able to temporarily influence hormone levels, does it make a significant difference in body composition?
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if i say yes you're gonna keep asking questions instead of reading them facts up?

then my answer is no.
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post Feb 7 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 7 2012, 01:47 AM)
I wasn't the one who made the original claim that nutrient timing is more important than 24 hour energy balance. And since you're the one responding to my questions, I'd assume that you would be able to back that claim. Since you decided not to back your position, the claim is now void.
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okay.

if me not backing up some claim made by some other people means the fact is void altogether, so be it.

or maybe its just you who is lazy and just plain argumentative.
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post Feb 7 2012, 09:18 PM

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By your logic, if you wanted to learn more why not research on the subject in matter?

I was simply replying to a question in the forums with the information in hand. I didn't feel the need to back up my claims by giving links that you could have simply googled.

I wasn't curious, you were. Burden to provide proof? Couldn't you just google it? Would have saved you the long ass post in response to my reply right?

This wasn't a scientific discussion. I didn't come up with a hypothesis. I merely responded to your question.
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post Feb 7 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 7 2012, 10:00 PM)
You are under the impression that I have not done my research. I have. I am probably knowing more than I am letting on. Asking those questions doesn't mean I was curious. I utilize the socratic method in most discussions. I did not agree with the statement that "nutrient timing is important and about controlling hormones". That is why certain questions were asked, to dissect that statement and eventually lead to a conclusion. Google search works up to a certain point where information is so diluted and misrepresented that it can often be very hard to discern what is actually accurate. This is a forum, is it not the place to have an intellectual discussion dissecting and verifying information? I stand by what I said, the burden of proof is on the person who made the claim. It is not the job of the person refuting the claim to back it up.

You made your position clear, you were just responding to my first question and was probably not interested in a lengthy discussion. Thats fine and dandy.
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You're right. I'm not. Next time pleease spare the bullshit and don't waste my time please?

Unless you can link some real solid information not available through google search then I would be happy to oblige you.
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post Feb 8 2012, 09:04 PM

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Good read. Have yet to read the pubmed articles will do so when I get back to my pc. How is it you didn't share this earlier?
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post Feb 8 2012, 09:10 PM

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LOL! But really, this shit is informative as hell and if you guys say you all read pubmed sarticles why not link it when u find something interesting?

Rather than waiting for someone to ask for it which probably will not happen. Go make a new thread, or something
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post Feb 8 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 8 2012, 09:13 PM)
The topic is very broad, it is the reason i asked many questions. Otherwise, I'd be posting many irrelevant things.
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Well, feel free to post anything in a new thread or something. Its nice to get some reading material from this section for a change.

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