So ive been playing in NA server for some time now because ive been frustrated by the "blizzard league promotion rules". Before this i started from bronze in SEA server but cant seem to get promoted higher than silver league.

Then i started with NA server just to look whether i improved in the past 4 months and Blizzard had thrown me into the Platinum league after the placements matches. but i dont think i can cope with the level of play. Coz i prefer macro play rather than timing pushes for im playing zerg. Is there any basic requirements im lacking as a zerg player in order to cope with the level of play in Platinum league?

these are some of my replays and i hope somebody can point out which part of my play i should improve. Thanks

ohh.. shoot. i cant upload the replays coz LYN doesnt allow upload of .SC2replay extension.

Replay pack

This post has been edited by nizora: Feb 4 2012, 11:23 AM

why do u always zoom in for no reason?

This post has been edited by ricardoizecson: Feb 4 2012, 01:44 PM

finally,some1 in LYN posting replays...
back to casting mode soon! :3

watched arid plataue.

1) always open hatch 1st against terran. i tot you like macro play? pool 1st is quite bad

2) no1 makes 72 drone and have 4 lings 10 minute in the game. and only make lings after you see enemy push. its too slow.

3) dont make roach warren unless you see hellion.

4) after lair, research baneling nest

5) always have a handful of army... cuz if you see opponent push only you make lings, you still need to morph into banes. all these takes time. and you dont want to give him time to siege up.

6) why you cancel your natural hatchery at 1st?

drones. ovies. creep. scouting. injects.

DOCSI

entombed zvz
1) early game abit sloppy but he didnt punish you for that when he had like 17 roach to your 1 roach count. he could have out right killed you.

2) the main problem in the game is you didnt spend your money as well as your opponent. you were about 20-30 supply behind throughout the 2-3 base stage and you constantly have like 1.5k mineral floating. while your opponent kept his money low. basically both of you were macroing hydra roach out of 3 base 3 queen. but he injected better and spent his money btr. so he won during the engagement. he got way more stuff than you. its all about injecting and making army.

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Added on February 4, 2012, 2:09 pmentombed zvt

1) again, open pool 1st

2) why you make both bane nest and roach warren? unless you are planning to all in....but you didnt...well, some ppl dno how to deal with early game tank pushes. just use mass lings....banes might help. but definitely not roaches, roaches sucks in tvz.

3) why you rush to brood lord? wheres your muta harrass? well, he wasnt good enough to capitalize on the fact that you rush to BL. BL rushing is very weak to all kind of attacks.

4) spend your mmoney btr. not spending them by double expanding, spend them by making army. its army that wins you game, not drones.

5) make 2-3 spines at your further expos, they are quite good against drops.

6) dont morph all your corrupters into BL, you need more corrupters than BL to deal with the vikings. see the ending? sad. owh, you could have used tranfuse but either way you are going to lose because he had so many vikings. use infestor to fungal them. anyway, you shouldnt rush to BL, use mutas to stop the terran from macroing, because rushing to BL means you cant put pressure on terran, he is going to max out soon and you are going to die.

7) how to micro BL. ok, BL is to force tanks to unsiege, so you dont sack all your lings to attack the tanks. and BL sit back do nothing. totally wrong. you let your BL hit the marines, then let tanks splash damage to damage the marines. then terran will unsiege to protect his own marine. thats when you flood your lings in to attack the unsieged army.

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Added on February 4, 2012, 2:13 pmthats all for now....basically just know when to spend your money. and i realized you hiccup too much on overlord supply cap........thats very bad. learn when to make overlord. even when i offrace as zerg, i rarely supply cap. umm....after about 50 supply, always make sure you have about 10 free supplies. after 1 round of inject, depends on how many supply worth of unit you are making, replenish same worth of ovie.

tho your hotkeys are not really nice, those dont really matter yet. fix your supply and money spending, can at least bring you to be a solid diamond.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Feb 4 2012, 02:13 PM

Remember D O C S I

Drone saturation.

Always check ur drone saturation.
make sure its 22(mineral) + 6(gases) on main, natural, third.

aim for midgame 75-80 drone count. (10-12mins)
replace drones u use for gas/buildings

ovie timing.

1 ovie at a time : 15 pool first/17FE, 26, 32, 40
2 ovie at a time : after 44-100
3 ovie at a time : 100-150
maxed it out : 150-200

another tips. use hatch larvae for ovies. inject larvae for units.
or. spare one inject larvaes for ovies.

ALWAYS USE UR LARVAE. dont leave it idle. do something.

Creep spreading

watch minimap. see purple area. not far enuf? moarrr creep tumorrrrr.

Scouting

always have a spotter infront of opp base. (ling, highground ovie, wtv) just make sure u know when the push is coming.

spotter on every possible expo (third,4th,5th....99th)

WATCH MINIMAP. ALWAYS.

ur eye cycle shud be.
-TOP RIGHT (supply/money)
-BTM MIDDLE (status)
-BTM LEFT (minimap)

cant see anything on opp base? send ovie in. it doesnt hurt.

Injects

not much i can give u on this. since its personal preference. for me. tapping works best.

tap queen. got energy? inject
inject dy? creep tumor

thats all from me. GLHF

This post has been edited by ricardoizecson: Feb 4 2012, 04:18 PM

we have many many replays posted before lol, especially on the 3 races thread

i mean..the newest replays...
i cant just jump around n take older replays,since that replay wud be outdated (patch changed for example)

go watch some pro player's VOD =D

Thanks for pointing out my problems coz sumtimes i just didnt realize them

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Added on February 4, 2012, 10:58 pmill happily keep that in mind.

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Added on February 4, 2012, 10:59 pmwell. i would be happy if u could cast my replays.

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Added on February 4, 2012, 11:01 pmlol. my mouse actually has a scroll key. and i sumtimes by mistake scrolled them. is there any way to disable it?

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Added on February 4, 2012, 11:03 pmi have big problem when playing against terran marine tank push + their bunker rush. so i suppose in some games i would go for 14 pool. I will start using 15 hatch after my bunker rush defend is better.

This post has been edited by nizora: Feb 4 2012, 11:03 PM

i teach u~
change to toss~ 4gate all race
diamond in no time

http://www.itsgosu.com/FileUploads/Files/M...RP1_ostojiy.rar
http://www.itsgosu.com/FileUploads/Files/M...k-1_18_2012.rar

check out this link. download this guy's replays. watch. learn and copy every single thing.

This post has been edited by ricardoizecson: Feb 5 2012, 12:39 AM

zerg also can maa..
just 2 base roach rush timing push + lings..

diamond in no time..

6/7RR all ins

terran:
MAEK MUHREENS
all in (with scv also can)

marine scv timing push~
Terrans dun hav all ins~ wat toking u

mules are to BM, so yes, all in.

6/7 RR all ins can be easily scouted.
If you're in gold or lower platinum, maybe you can win most of it. But if you're at top platinum or diamond, i think it becomes obsolete..

i used to do that time to time in my diamond. shit seems to work so why the hell not eh?

besides, if it fails, you can always drone the f*** up

any roach related attacks against terran is stupid. roach expand, 2 base roach ling 7RR 5RR...ever heard of malolder but i do think to an extend, infestor ling play can be applied in both zvp and zvt.

but any roach related strat against protoss and zerg works wonder.

i think at this point is probably safe to say that anything non masters, anything goes.

there are a lot of people who cheesed to diamond or even masters, you gonna say they are doing it wrong?

those people can get further playing standard...but in your context, yeah, my statement is wrong.

+1

+1 for u
true true~ i 4gate rush all the way~

u OP. laen cerita.

YAY!! on a 4 lost streak.. T_T

losing is goooood. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=176970

TLDR http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=208343

This post has been edited by ricardoizecson: Feb 6 2012, 03:54 AM

well, as sad as it may sound, oftenly the "non-standard" way is the easiest way, and if it wins, that's the end of the story. don't really to go as far as following strict build orders, strict timing pushes etc.

most importantly, have fun, eh? it's not like TS is aiming to be a pro gamer or something (TS, if you are, do correct me and ignore what i've said/saying) which you know, your salary is dependent on how you play and fun = no no as you need to play sc2 as if its your job. (which to most people, a job is something that isn't a lot of fun, of course, there are many exceptions and i do realize that)

as much as i'd like to link my 4v4 stream saved video, the last one i mistakenly enabled "what you hear" audio line and it caused a lot of feedback and repeated ventrilo dialogues. i think i did that because of some other game that doesn't support specific outputs like sc2 does and i forgot to turn it back off

that said, if you dont mind that, or you can mute the audio and play some of your favorite music, you can go ahead and take a look. and its basically me, MAEK MUHREENS

lol terran.

=edit=
typo

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Added on February 6, 2012, 3:58 amif its vs terran
just blame race OP

if its vs zerg
just blame stupid mirror match draw of luck

if its vs protoss
blame he maphack and report him
as no one is supposed to lose to toss unless he is another toss

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Feb 6 2012, 03:58 AM

heyhey, watched ur replays. u're not a bad player, i think u could make diamond pretty soon if u play more. i think if u're terran u coulda been diamond/masters already. im sorry im not much of a zerg player, cant help u much with proper builds, i gotta admit zerg is harder to play when i got a low brain processing speed.

what u can do now is continue to play more games, give more thoughts on ur games when u're not playing cuz when it comes to playing time, u wont have much time to think, u're gonna keep remembering stuffs like ur brain flipping around pages. as u play ur memory improves and eventually an action will become a habit, stuffs like spreading creep, rallying overlord, larva inject will become automatic.

i think other stuffs like watch replay/stream/gsl for build orders/timings and buildorders/timings to watch out for needs no telling right

yeah both can be right, however i dont like strict dos and donts. things like 11/11 111 222 14hatch, 11rax,12rax,12gateway. many ppl learn them in the wrong way, im not saying those bo are wrong but if u do everything efficiently u will learn that 123 rax is 123 rax just in time when u have 150 minerals up+worker travelling time. efficiency is really all that matters.

i learn the game by focusing on winning, whatever shit cheese/play that i can do to win easy. my friend practice by going standard build everygame and focus on macro and defending cheese, but he had broodwar experience. I think both way works as long as u get ur basic right 1st! i still have problem with my control though, bad habits are hard to break x_x

yow. u really are on spot with everything. thanks again. at least i can read something unrelated to educations.

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Added on February 6, 2012, 8:01 amyeah. actually i spent more times disappointing with myself rather than analysing my games. LOL. i love starcraft. The more i wanted to stay away from it, the closer it got to me. It kinda completes me. LOL. but things like this kinda make me sad.

This post has been edited by nizora: Feb 6 2012, 08:01 AM

i agree with Quazacolt say.

games is mean to be fun to play . not stresss to play . unless your are porgammer than u have no choice.

when u get higher rank . u will get more stress because lose more .
some ppl will say u wil get more exp form lossing . yeah it true but what happend u lose 10 ladder games in a row. i dont see you want to play this games anymore.
where is the fun when u get stress??

This post has been edited by nagflar: Feb 9 2012, 04:36 PM

yesterday, me and some friends tried our very best to get into bronze league. we succeeded. boy that was some really sakit perut sessions. (streamed, and session recorded in my stream link, which i also linked on the threads over sc2 subforum and gamers hideout forum )