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post Feb 2 2012, 02:37 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hi All the experts, I just gotten the quotation for my extension kitchen

As below, please give me some feedback where it is exp or reasonable?

18"x5" kitchen extension + cement roof top
- 2"x2" floor tile
- 1" x2" wall tile
- 4"x6" powder coated window
- 18"x5" plaster ceiling RM 15,500.00

cement kitchen table top RM 4,480.00
extended kitchen cement roof top convert to balcony RM 3,900.00


expensive or normal? haven't include the permit from DBKL.
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post Feb 2 2012, 02:39 PM

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Cheap but make sure the work is properly done
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post Feb 2 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas007 @ Feb 2 2012, 02:39 PM)
Cheap but make sure the work is properly done
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ok ic but can give me some tips how to know whether they do it properly or not? How to check? And what should I pay more attention when contractor doing their work?
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post Feb 2 2012, 03:18 PM

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Too cheap. I couldn't get that kind of price in Y2000.
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post Feb 2 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 2 2012, 04:18 PM)
Too cheap. I couldn't get that kind of price in Y2000.
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Agree with that. Better get a few more quotes to compare.
It seems too cheap for the contractor to complete the work.
Do read up some of the horror stories on bad contractors...
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post Feb 2 2012, 03:43 PM

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i got quotation from 3 diff contractor, all roughly from rm15k to 16k. I nvr reveal contractor quotation to 1 and other. Is this coincidence or really that price? according to the contract, they will need to hack my wall and dig and build another 2 beam at the end of left and right corner to support the extension wall. I can choose cement brick(I duno what it called. it is grey color) or red sand brick(i oso duno what this called, it is red color).

I oso ask contractors to quote labor for painting for me. RM6k for in and out, outside apply sealer(Am I spell it correctly?), which type of paint are up to me to choose, I do request for nippon aircare. And the other 1 contractor ask me goto buy paint myself and they FOC paint for me, same 2 layer in and out + outside with sealer foundation.

Really got such big "Toad" jumping on the street or not? What should I clarify up-front to the contractor 1 be4 we come to a point that cause argument?
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post Feb 2 2012, 04:57 PM

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The cement kitchen table top seems a bit expansive. How long is it?
What kind of balcony conversion? What are the scopes include.

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post Feb 2 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 2 2012, 04:57 PM)
The cement kitchen table top seems a bit expansive. How long is it?
What kind of balcony conversion? What are the scopes include.
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Very cheap,else you can become Project Manager will be cheaper. Oya dont squeeze to the maximum, you dont expect job done in the other way round such as leaking, cracking, no beam or footing and so on...Price given is still a certain quality remaning, the wet work is quit cheap. So give and take. Quality wise ??? No idea
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post Feb 3 2012, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Glanz Panel Industry @ Feb 2 2012, 07:56 PM)
Very cheap,else you can become Project Manager will be cheaper. Oya dont squeeze to the maximum, you dont expect job done in the other way round such as leaking, cracking, no beam or footing and so on...Price given is still a certain quality remaning, the wet work is quit cheap. So give and take. Quality wise ??? No idea
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The price quoted by you?
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post Feb 3 2012, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 2 2012, 04:57 PM)
The cement kitchen table top seems a bit expansive. How long is it?
What kind of balcony conversion? What are the scopes include.
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Hi, sorry for late reply. if im not mistaken should be 28". It is L-Shape. He quoted me RM160 per sq ft. It is 2"x2" a "mable looks like" tile(I duno what this material call, but definitely not mable). It is black color with some blinking dust in there. sweat.gif I hope you understand what I'm saying. This contractor have completed around 6 - 8 houses renovation in my area. He bring me to see his works for other houses.

Since you guys said it is cheap, now i'm worry about the foundation beam of the extension kitchen.

I heard even contractor oso got gang 1, just like gangster. It is like they have area incharge. If some other contractor bring in by house owner, will be harassing by the contractors there. Actually got such thing or not?. I saw some sign in my area. Basically my area major of the house owner let this 2 contractors handle the renovation, I heard some news there are 2 or 3 contractors brought in by owners, some do half-way then stop for some reason, some took the money then few days later MIA. Actually I got another trusted contractors, but I scared the problem i mention above happen if i let my trusted contractor do, i scared other 2 contractors purposely cause issue to my house and my contractor. sweat.gif
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IMHO, I would get my trusted contractor to carry out the work even if it is slightly more expensive. That's if you really trust that the contractor will not go MIA. Just be upfront with your contractor. Most of these experience renovation contractors knows how to handle these so called "Monopolising contractors"
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post Feb 3 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Feb 3 2012, 09:47 AM)
Hi, sorry for late reply.  if im not mistaken should be 28". It is L-Shape. He quoted me RM160 per sq ft. It is 2"x2" a "mable looks like" tile(I duno what this material call, but definitely not mable). It is black color with some blinking dust in there.  sweat.gif  I hope you understand what I'm saying. This contractor have completed around 6 - 8 houses renovation in my area. He bring me to see his works for other houses.

Since you guys said it is cheap, now i'm worry about the foundation beam of the extension kitchen.

I heard even contractor oso got gang 1, just like gangster. It is like they have area incharge. If some other contractor bring in by house owner, will be harassing by the contractors there. Actually got such thing or not?. I saw some sign in my area. Basically my area major of the house owner let this 2 contractors handle the renovation, I heard some news there are 2 or 3 contractors brought in by owners, some do half-way then stop for some reason, some took the money then few days later MIA. Actually I got another trusted contractors, but I scared the problem i mention above happen if i let my trusted contractor do, i scared other 2 contractors purposely cause issue to my house and my contractor.  sweat.gif
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2"x2" should be terrazzo tile.
If the price of table top include this tile then ok la.
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post Feb 3 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Feb 3 2012, 09:47 AM)
Hi, sorry for late reply.  if im not mistaken should be 28". It is L-Shape. He quoted me RM160 per sq ft. It is 2"x2" a "mable looks like" tile(I duno what this material call, but definitely not mable). It is black color with some blinking dust in there.  sweat.gif  I hope you understand what I'm saying. This contractor have completed around 6 - 8 houses renovation in my area. He bring me to see his works for other houses.

Since you guys said it is cheap, now i'm worry about the foundation beam of the extension kitchen.

I heard even contractor oso got gang 1, just like gangster. It is like they have area incharge. If some other contractor bring in by house owner, will be harassing by the contractors there. Actually got such thing or not?. I saw some sign in my area. Basically my area major of the house owner let this 2 contractors handle the renovation, I heard some news there are 2 or 3 contractors brought in by owners, some do half-way then stop for some reason, some took the money then few days later MIA. Actually I got another trusted contractors, but I scared the problem i mention above happen if i let my trusted contractor do, i scared other 2 contractors purposely cause issue to my house and my contractor.  sweat.gif
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if the kitchen is just stand alone.. meaning no extension to your first floor... then normal foundation is alright.... if you;re planning to extend the 1st floor rooms same as the kitchen then you need to pile
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post Feb 3 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Glanz Panel Industry @ Feb 2 2012, 07:56 PM)
Very cheap,else you can become Project Manager will be cheaper. Oya dont squeeze to the maximum, you dont expect job done in the other way round such as leaking, cracking, no beam or footing and so on...Price given is still a certain quality remaning, the wet work is quit cheap. So give and take. Quality wise ??? No idea
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Check my profile brother, no construction work or wet work to be done as we are not contractor but we are manufacturing furniture & all kind of carpentry works. I've done quite a number of interior works as i've seen alot of customer pushing & squeezing the contrator until to the maximum. thus in the end job live it hanging, no quality, late delivery, arguement & most commonly is variation order occur (V/O) during progress & etc. And yet customer still expecting more from the contractor discount, high end material, design, aft sales service, retention 5-10%, responsibilty & so on. Contractor also got overhead.

The most important is on the 1st agreement, again quality wise ???




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post Feb 3 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 3 2012, 11:29 AM)
2"x2" should be terrazzo tile.
If the price of table top include this tile then ok la.
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yaya, something like tat. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(prem_1982 @ Feb 3 2012, 02:26 PM)
if the kitchen is just stand alone.. meaning no extension to your first floor... then normal foundation is alright.... if you;re planning to extend the 1st floor rooms same as the kitchen then you need to pile
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nop. I dun plan to extend my 1st flood. so normal pillar will do? the contractor said will need to do digging and rebuild the pile.


Added on February 3, 2012, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(Glanz Panel Industry @ Feb 3 2012, 02:39 PM)
Check my profile brother, no construction work or wet work to be done as we are not contractor but we are manufacturing furniture & all kind of carpentry works. I've done quite a number of interior works as i've seen alot of customer pushing & squeezing the contrator until to the maximum. thus in the end job live it hanging, no quality, late delivery, arguement & most commonly is variation order occur (V/O) during progress & etc. And yet customer still expecting more from the contractor discount, high end material, design, aft sales service, retention 5-10%, responsibilty & so on. Contractor also got overhead.

The most important is on the 1st agreement, again quality wise ???
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Ya, I understand that, if I keep on demand discount from the contractor. end-up bad quality workmanship. That y I'm not always request more discount from the contractor. Once I see the particular section is over my budget I just drop it instead of ask more discount.

This post has been edited by aarondotcom: Feb 3 2012, 02:44 PM
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post Feb 3 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Feb 3 2012, 02:41 PM)
yaya, something like tat.  biggrin.gif
nop. I dun plan to extend my 1st flood. so normal pillar will do? the contractor said will need to do digging and rebuild the pile.


Added on February 3, 2012, 2:44 pm

Ya, I understand that, if I keep on demand discount from the contractor. end-up bad quality workmanship. That y I'm not always request more discount from the contractor. Once I see the particular section is over my budget I just drop it instead of ask more discount.
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ya you need to do the digging & have some iron mesh for the foundation to be strong.
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post Feb 4 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Glanz Panel Industry @ Feb 3 2012, 02:39 PM)
Check my profile brother, no construction work or wet work to be done as we are not contractor but we are manufacturing furniture & all kind of carpentry works. I've done quite a number of interior works as i've seen alot of customer pushing & squeezing the contrator until to the maximum. thus in the end job live it hanging, no quality, late delivery, arguement & most commonly is variation order occur (V/O) during progress & etc. And yet customer still expecting more from the contractor discount, high end material, design, aft sales service, retention 5-10%, responsibilty & so on. Contractor also got overhead.

The most important is on the 1st agreement, again quality wise ???
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What a contractor say.
I'll say, if everybody go for fair and square then all problem will be minimised.

 

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