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albnok
post Jun 26 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Jun 26 2012, 04:20 PM)
Can take picture of the tilt-able flash ar?
Also show some that you taken?
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I got a shot of somebody else bouncing the flash (you need to pull it back manually):

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post Jul 12 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Jul 12 2012, 03:09 PM)
One weakness of Nex 5N on tripod use is the focusing. With SLR, we can easily focus a spot and switch to manual focus to lock the focus but we cannot do this with Nex. Even we can switch to manual focus in the menu, the "continuous pre focusing" of NEX will move your focusing when you are on the way in your menu. There is no way to turn off "continuous pre focusing". There is also no such feature as "back button focusing". It makes it quite annoying to use it on tripod unless you do manual focus. I wish they release a firmware to let us turn off the pre focusing.

Another thing is if you put ND400 filter to it to do longer exposure, it becomes darker than SLR so auto focus is difficult, even manual focus can be difficult.
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Nolah dude you need to enable Direct Manual Focus. That will do exactly what you wanted, the moment you half-press then turn the focus ring.
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Jul 12 2012, 08:26 PM)
But once you release it, won't it do the "continuous pre focus again"? because once you release your finger it is back to AF already.
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Yup. So you have to keep half-pressing to maintain the focus point. Unless of course, you got the NEX-7...
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post Jul 13 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Jul 13 2012, 03:20 PM)
Oh OK. Never touch the Nex 7, it can disable the "continuous pre focus"?
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There is a AF/MF button on the back to allow you to quickly toggle.
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post Jul 13 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(mavericksam @ Jul 13 2012, 03:44 PM)
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Added on July 13, 2012, 3:50 pm
I don't think toggle is the right word to use coz it doesn't switch fully to AF or MF if you are on the other mode. you have to hold it while using it... else it will just roll back to whatever mode you were in... with that, if you wanna switch fully, only way (i think) is via the menu. unless i am wrong... any other nex 7 users please correct me.
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You can enable AF/MF toggle as far as I have read. I don't have a NEX-7 though.
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jul 15 2012, 05:18 PM)
on a77, there are ton of button, will be good if there is video show how to make use of this button efficiently in special shooting environment condition
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Well I don't have UniFi so I'd take forever to record such a video LOL. However it is probably best explained at a TT session. Still it is good you explore it yourself!
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post Jul 29 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 28 2012, 06:24 PM)
Thanks for sharing bro.

BTW suddenly come to mind. Since these lenses (voiglander, M lens etc) arent design originally for NEX... what are the other limitation of using such lenses compare to the original Emount lens?

I know the first thing is ... it is Manual focus only. Then the Aperture is set manually too. But is that the only difference?

What happened when we use liveview on LCD... and as we change the aperture... will the the liveview update the exposure as well? Will the camera KNOWS what aperture we are using and indicates our aperture in the screen? Meaning.. Will what we see in the lcd, is what we will get in the final photo? And will automatic exposure works with these lens? We can use Aperture Priority mode? or just SUPER MANUAL only. & there will be no EXIF data in the final image.

The adapters actually come with any electronic contacts? or is just to mount the lens onto the body without any other connection.

If everything works the same way, only Manual focus + Manual Aperture... Then I can consider those lens.
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Liveview will update the exposure. You may see a fast framerate when the lens is wide open, but gets a slow framerate and ISO boost when the lens is closed down. You will see deeper depth of field when stopping down as well. Yes, what you see in the LCD is in the final photo. Automatic exposure works - I use it in Aperture Priority and it is fine when switching to other lenses - I don't change it from Aperture Priority ever. The EXIF will say F1.0 with a focal length of 0mm on an unchipped lens adapter or an unchipped lens.

It is pretty much like how unchipped lenses for Sony Alpha work, if you've tried M42 or Samyang lenses.
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(geek8585 @ Jul 30 2012, 11:27 AM)
hi pal... good day to everyone of you...
recently i got some questions with my new SEL50F18...
when i was using AF/DMF mode (with peaking feature), the lens sometimes focus at the wrong item... initially, i thought it is something to do with the focal length. But I turn to MF. I actually can manual focus to the subject i want when i standing at the same position. And the DMF function seems like AF only, when u "fine" tune too much, it will auto focus again for you...

can some sifu guide me how to use it? cos it is like keep on focus at wrong subject... LOL

Besides, i do set the camera setting to "flexible focus spot"... is it adjustment needed at that setting option?
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You're supposed to half-press, let it auto-focus, then turn the ring.

Keep half-pressing it to keep it in DMF mode. If you let go of the shutter, and half-press again, it will auto-focus again.
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post Jul 31 2012, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 30 2012, 09:52 PM)
Hi Albert! Thanks for clarify this. I nvr tried any samyang lense before and this is first time I play with LIveview so dont know how it should work yet. Btw albert you have many experience with other lenses. In your opinion do you think there is any manual lens worth getting compare to the CZ24mm f1.8? If lets say manual focusing is not a problem. Budget about same with CZ. In term of sharpness and rendering quality while wide open. I actually have been looking for Voigtlander 35mm f1.2, but it is more expensive than autofocus CZ, but is there really difference in picture quality. There is no way i can test this lens. Assume comparing both lens at F1.8 (instead of 1.2) Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 is much compact but looking at the review the lens is not very sharp ... will it justify to get a manual lens more expensive than CZ 24mm? It is actually quite fun playing manual focusing on NEX, since I find nex tend to miss focus a lot more often compare to Alpha especially in low light.
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Studio Zaloon has the Voightlander Nokton 50mm F1.1 (can't remember price), the Voightlander 40mm F1.4 (RM14xx), Voightlander 35mm F1.4 (RM2xxx) and Voightlander 35mm F1.2 (can't remember price.) I'd say they are pretty worth it! I got some pictures with the 1.1.

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Voightlander 40mm F1.4 M-mount, at F1.4, on the Sony NEX-5

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Voightlander Nokton 50mm F1.1 M-mount, at F1.4, on the Sony NEX-5

Both are pretty darn sharp wide open! In fact, when I initially did an Unsharp Mask of 90% 0.3 pixels 3 threshold on the full-size image and shrunk it to its current size, it looked too crispy and oversharpened. So I just did a plain resize.
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post Jul 31 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 31 2012, 02:17 AM)
Oh!! didnt know Studio Zaloon actually selling these lens.. Thought uncle chin selling sony lens only tongue.gif

So you are saying the Voightlander may even have better image quality than the nex CZ or 50mm F1.8? I'll visit Zaloon and have a test myself before deciding if it is worth to sacrifice the autofocus/stabiliser.
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No I am not, because I have not compared it to the CZ E 24mm F1.8 or the Sony E 50mm F1.8. I would say it has surprisingly good quality wide open!
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post Aug 4 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Aug 3 2012, 12:24 PM)
newbies in nex..what is the mount for the Voigtlander you try in zaloon? and the mount expensive?
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The Voightlanders were in Leica M mount. The adapter was under RM300 - not sure how much, don't remember exactly. Best to check over there.
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post Aug 8 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Aug 8 2012, 04:38 PM)
already done that, not aperture problem, my problem is cant focus...no matter how i turn the focus ring on the lens it cant focus, all blur...

Release without lens ON, i wonder which setting is wrong...
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When you put an extension tube on, you lose infinity focus. The only things you can focus on, are close to your lens. Try holding a finger in front of the lens (with adapter and extension tube) and bring it slowly closer to you - you should see it slowly getting into focus!
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post Aug 21 2012, 05:37 PM

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The NEX-6 looks like it got beaten with an ugly stick.

Nevermind the stupid decision to put an ISO hotshoe, the ISO hotshoe that is on the NEX-6 is ugly. Plus, it has no other pins besides the big trigger one in the middle (look at a Canon and Nikon hotshoe and observe where they put the signal pins.)

This might just mean Sony isn't going to make their own ISO hotshoe flashes - and even if they did, it wouldn't support TTL, wireless trigger or whatever.

The NEX-7, meanwhile, allows you to put a HVL-F20AM (or F43 or F58) and use that to trigger other Sony Alpha flashes wirelessly.
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post Aug 26 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(nlik @ Aug 26 2012, 10:48 PM)
Hmm.. i read articles from various sources of photography. Yea, best is to get out n shoot pics to improve skill. That is no doubt. But sometimes inspirations do come from the works and writings of others.

Anyway.. I see a trend from different authors where they are saying the same thing:

The next big thing would be about Video and moving images. It seems that still images is becoming something less and less appreciated. The convergence is already happening where the upper end of DSLR are now made to also take great full HD videos. 

Internet bandwith and memory card capacity has also kept up and probably is quite fast nowadays to support video uploads and streaming. Youtube has shown itself to be the epitome of video portals, i'm wondering if Facebook will allow video uploads in addition to image uploads . hmm..

So, probably in the current and coming times, these NEX's and it's lenses really do need to be the be good at still and be even better with video to stay relevant.
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Facebook does allow video uploads.
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post Sep 21 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Noobiba @ Sep 21 2012, 10:50 PM)
I'mma Gearhead ! LOL

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Did a quick test on my 1-day old RX100 with my Nex 5 + E16, similar lighting condition, similar ISO, diff shutter as Nex sensor is abit more sensitive maybe it's bigger, and similar aperture at f/2.8, f/5.6, and f/8, RX100 at 28mm, Nex at 16mm (24mm), and the result...

E16 lose, lose until cham cham, very very lousy. WTF to Sony made a crap lens to use on APSC sensor and a good lens on 1" sensor, maybe their marketing gimmick to ketagih their customers to buy more and more ? Lol we're the water-fish !

Off topic, I should test the E16 with my iPhone 4 maybe it will win this time !


Added on September 21, 2012, 10:57 pmDammit, just found that my A200, Nex 5 and RX100 unable to share the similar charger, and transfer cable, WTF so many cables tangling on my table now !

Is it very hard to create a universal port to all their cameras ? dammit they should learn from Apple on this.
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I just change the charger box and leave the 2-pin cable in the wall socket. (I charge my NEX-5 battery and A77 battery on alternate days.)

As for the rest:
- change to NEX-C3 or NEX-5R and use Micro USB Type B
- change to Android, Blackberry or Nokia - all using Micro USB Type B

The RX100 also charges using a Micro USB Type B. I believe going forward that most smaller devices will use Micro USB Type B.
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post Sep 27 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(jimmyyap03 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:02 PM)
any idea for this? AF adaptor for A mount, so cheap for the pricing compare to LA-EA 1 or 2 series

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Minolta-AF-le...370289332614%26
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That adaptor does not allow your lens to auto-focus.

It supports Minolta AF lenses (Alpha mount) but not Minolta SR/MC/MD lenses.
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post Oct 6 2012, 04:50 AM

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More to come! Tired and took a while to process pictures. Will post a proper post soon.

ERP = Estimated Retail Price, I think...

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post Oct 15 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(geek8585 @ Oct 15 2012, 01:52 PM)
no you can't do that on F3... only latest model like 5R and 6 able to do that...
cos the body able to charge the battery through cable or you can take the battery out and charge it with external charger...
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The NEX-F3 was the first with USB charging. The 5R and 6 followed.

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