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post Jan 17 2012, 11:41 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hey folks, wondering sentra b13 spare part exp? Wanted to get seg... but too exp imo... thnx for d input
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post Jan 17 2012, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(endau02 @ Jan 17 2012, 11:41 PM)
Hey folks, wondering sentra b13 spare part exp? Wanted to get seg... but too exp imo... thnx for d input
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Hi, Brother look your avatar is Ang Mo + Amy, Should better go SEG Limited or AE111.

The FC still better than nissan sentra b13, even the corolla is older model but the spare parts at anywhere you can find.

hehe i am also interested of SEG.

anywhere the SEG is a good car of sedan.

but on nissan sentra is just slightly bad on 1.6cc most of time is underpowered and heavy pick up with bad FC.

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post Jan 17 2012, 11:48 PM

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Seg better with b14........
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:52 AM

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Yup. Used to drive a b14. Powerful and consumption is surprisingly low. The downside was the gear ratio was high.
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post Jan 18 2012, 08:03 AM

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I tot b14 is bad in fc.. omg, i dam headache jor
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post Jan 18 2012, 08:25 AM

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take seg better ! any model of seg also can !
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:20 AM

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Take SEG, in term of;

- looks (depend but i think SEG looks 'smarter' hence the "mini-Lexus" nickname dubbed to it biggrin.gif )
- resale value(most malaysians must be thinking about this biggrin.gif )
- spareparts

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post Jan 18 2012, 09:32 AM

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either the owner of B14 did some mods or the car already got problem.

I'd used the car for 5 years stock only. its really gentle on the wallet.

Get SEG. it's much robust.
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:34 AM

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1stly which SEG version r u talking about
- 92/95 AE101 (orange-red lamps vs white-red lamps)
- 96/97 AE111
- 98/00 Facelift AE111 (2 air bags n ABS on some auto SEGs)

Hv a Y10 ADR running on GA16DS and a std 97' AE111 on 4AFE (same block running in AE101) both manual. D ADR's engine is just carb fed compared to injected n d GA16DE has aditional VTC, n chassis wise is just slightly stretched wit a torsion beam in d rear. Annual maintenance costs almost d same n easy on d wallet.

Comparin both, d pickup from d Nissan is punchier but more crude interms of NVH next to 4AFE. FC wise about d same, both around 500km easily on full tank wit some to spare. D engine in d Nissan is also running on t.chain compared to belt.

But I'm more towards d Toyota even d AE101 typically coz
- B13 cabin is a bit narrower
- Sentra is a tad older (might as well get d newer n bigger B14 wit just a bit more $$) but less exciting to drive
- s'how feel Toyota chassis lasts better (bushes last longer n feels better put together)
- GA16xx block a bit sensitive to overheating n might end up wit cracked block head. My ADR had tis last yr n had to settle wit whole transplant coz d head alone was selling 70% of d whole bock n is rare.
- brakes on Nissan Y10, B13, B14 n even current N16 bites a bit too hard n fast to me. End up locking d rear often especially in d wet.

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post Jan 18 2012, 09:38 AM

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seg price higher coz better resale value.
Maintenance wise both same lah.
Suspension Seg better.
I myself prefer b14 coz cheaper price and it's on timing chain.

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post Jan 18 2012, 10:36 AM

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Any different between the AE101 orange-red lamps and AE101 white-red lamps?...is it just the lamp color is different?
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Jan 18 2012, 10:36 AM)
Any different between the AE101 orange-red lamps and AE101 white-red lamps?...is it just the lamp color is different?
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u mean this one?
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Corolla+SEG+1+6M-13382073.htm

and this one?
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Corolla+1+6+M-12933261.htm

IINM the red/white lamp was the newer model with different grill. Perhaps SEG owner can confirm this & do correct me if im mistaken
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Jan 18 2012, 12:42 PM)
u mean this one?
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Corolla+SEG+1+6M-13382073.htm

and this one?
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Corolla+1+6+M-12933261.htm

IINM the red/white lamp was the newer model with different grill. Perhaps SEG owner can confirm this & do correct me if im mistaken
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Other than different design, is there other different?...or it's just the same car with different exterior design?
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Jan 18 2012, 11:14 PM)
Other than different design, is there other different?...or it's just the same car with different exterior design?
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according to wiki the newer version of Ae101 got minor upgrade like cup holders etc laugh.gif

other than that both are the same car using the same engine etc
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:44 PM

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Love AE101 so much..especially the white-red lamps...wish i could own 1 in the near future..
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post Jan 19 2012, 01:29 PM

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haiz... looks like b13 is outta question .... no moneh for seg
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post Feb 3 2012, 04:09 PM

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SEG is better in my opinion..

I just bought a 95' B14 1.6 recently.. Its fully original and the pickup/overtaking power us lousy. Consumption is around 400-500KM per full tank of RM70-80. Stock suspension is not bad on 14" steel rims(not sport rims) with Michelin 185/65/R14 tyres I can take sharp corner at 50-60KM/h without skidding on dry surfaces although I constantly hear "klock klock" sound if I hit a pot hole or small bumps..

My friend's SEG AE101(White red lamp) just fitted in a 4AGE 1.6 20V engine and the pickup/overtaking power is damn satisfying. Suspension is also way better than the B14. Toyota is famous for their long lasting suspension system and more rugged chasis..

SEG looks also more sporty after snapping on bodykits and rear spoiler compared to the too rounded B14 in my opinion..

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post Feb 3 2012, 04:13 PM

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seg nicer...
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post Feb 3 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Feb 3 2012, 04:09 PM)
SEG is better in my opinion..

I just bought a 95' B14 1.6 recently.. Its fully original and the pickup/overtaking power us lousy. Consumption is around 400-500KM per full tank of RM70-80. Stock suspension is not bad on 14" steel rims(not sport rims) with Michelin 185/65/R14 tyres I can take sharp corner at 50-60KM/h without skidding on dry surfaces although I constantly hear "klock klock" sound if I hit a pot hole or small bumps..

My friend's SEG AE101(White red lamp) just fitted in a 4AGE 1.6 20V engine and the pickup/overtaking power is damn satisfying. Suspension is also way better than the B14. Toyota is famous for their long lasting suspension system and more rugged chasis..

SEG looks also more sporty after snapping on bodykits and rear spoiler compared to the too rounded B14 in my opinion..
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Dude, since u just got d car gv it a proper service 1st (replace plugs, lubes, flush all d oils n coolants, check for worn hoses etc). Many claim tat GA16DE's pickup is stronger compared to Toyota's 4AFE (stock vs stock), me included.

Oh, n leave d 4-throttle or older 4AGEs (blacktop, silvertop, redtop or bluetop) out of tis. All r in different leagues wit different purposes unless ur wanna bring in Nissan's SR16DE NEO, Mitsu's 4G92 MIVEC n Honda's B16s.
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Feb 3 2012, 04:34 PM)
Dude, since u just got d car gv it a proper service 1st (replace plugs, lubes, flush all d oils n coolants, check for worn hoses etc). Many claim tat GA16DE's pickup is stronger compared to Toyota's 4AFE (stock vs stock), me included.

Oh, n leave d 4-throttle or older 4AGEs (blacktop, silvertop, redtop or bluetop) out of tis. All r in different leagues wit different purposes unless ur wanna bring in Nissan's SR16DE NEO, Mitsu's 4G92 MIVEC n Honda's B16s.
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The salesman claims that the plugs are new etc etc.. Maybe I should give it a check and do a overhaul if needed..

Im just saying that more people fit in 4AGE engines in their everyday driving SEGs than SR16DE NEO or SR20DET in their everyday driving B14s unless they mod it for other purposes of u know what....

Dont know why but it seems that fitting 4AGE is popular.. Maybe its easier to get and parts are cheaper..

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post Feb 3 2012, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Feb 3 2012, 06:32 PM)
The salesman claims that the plugs are new etc etc.. Maybe I should give it a check and do a overhaul if needed..

Im just saying that more people fit in 4AGE engines in their everyday driving SEGs than SR16DE NEO or SR20DET in their everyday driving B14s unless they mod it for other purposes of u know what....

Dont know why but it seems that fitting 4AGE is popular.. Maybe its easier to get and parts are cheaper..
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biggrin.gif D only time I'll believe a car sales persons words bout any replacement is when he actually takes me to d place when d changes is made n I see it wit my own eyes.

Basically only d SR16DE's water pump is a bit harder to come by. D other parts r quite easy to source or just as reliable as Toyota's 4AGEs.

As for d reason theres more ppl putting black n siltertops in their everyday rides is typically b'coz there's more Corollas (AE92,EE/AE100 & AE/EE111) on d road now compared to Sentras (B13, B14 & Y10). Cost wise, both halfcuts costs about d same.
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post Feb 3 2012, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Feb 3 2012, 07:17 PM)
biggrin.gif D only time I'll believe a car sales persons words bout any replacement is when he actually takes me to d place when d changes is made n I see it wit my own eyes.

Basically only d SR16DE's water pump is a bit harder to come by. D other parts r quite easy to source or just as reliable as Toyota's 4AGEs.

As for d reason theres more ppl putting black n siltertops in their everyday rides is typically b'coz there's more Corollas (AE92,EE/AE100 & AE/EE111) on d road now compared to Sentras (B13, B14 & Y10). Cost wise, both halfcuts costs about d same.
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SR16de halfcuts are harder to find, and it is a bit more expensive compared to the 4age
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Feb 3 2012, 07:17 PM)
biggrin.gif D only time I'll believe a car sales persons words bout any replacement is when he actually takes me to d place when d changes is made n I see it wit my own eyes.

Basically only d SR16DE's water pump is a bit harder to come by. D other parts r quite easy to source or just as reliable as Toyota's 4AGEs.

As for d reason theres more ppl putting black n siltertops in their everyday rides is typically b'coz there's more Corollas (AE92,EE/AE100 & AE/EE111) on d road now compared to Sentras (B13, B14 & Y10). Cost wise, both halfcuts costs about d same.
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Ahh I see now.. Now that you've mentioned it.. Yeah the population of Corollas are more than Sentras..

Btw.. Is there big difference in performance between SR16DE and 4AGE despite being in different league? If im not wrong, 4AGE Blacktops are 1.6 20V right?
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Feb 3 2012, 04:34 PM)
Dude, since u just got d car gv it a proper service 1st (replace plugs, lubes, flush all d oils n coolants, check for worn hoses etc). Many claim tat GA16DE's pickup is stronger compared to Toyota's 4AFE (stock vs stock), me included.

Oh, n leave d 4-throttle or older 4AGEs (blacktop, silvertop, redtop or bluetop) out of tis. All r in different leagues wit different purposes unless ur wanna bring in Nissan's SR16DE NEO, Mitsu's 4G92 MIVEC n Honda's B16s.
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ahehe B16 bro brows.gif brows.gif


Added on February 3, 2012, 9:20 pmTS...my family car is Corolla SE not SEG year 93 1.3L Carburetor Manual Tran same as few links provided before..just my rear lamp is Orange Red...no prob till now...can up to 140km/h still stable no shaking over steering rack...recommended la TS for Corolla...last time was thinking of getting 1 with BT 6speed...end up choosing Honda with some reason

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post Feb 3 2012, 09:54 PM

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I'd say go for the AE101/111.
I'm driving 1 and I should know.
A properly maintained 1 should last and serve you well.
My car is at 300k km, and hasn't gone for an overhaul yet. Everything is still good. No oil leaks, no overheating. All I did was a top overhaul at 150k and the usual maintenance. Repairs CAN be costly depending on what you change (comparing this with local cars) as i think it is getting old, so parts might get more expensive.

Power wise the 4A-FE can pull you along pretty well, but will start to drop if you have 3 persons or more in the car. Don't expect blistering 0-100 time cause it will take at least 12 seconds to get from standstill to 100. If you want any more you need to plonk in a 4A-GE or more.

FC wise here are my clocks
100% city drive - 450km @ 37liter.
100% highway - 600km @ 37 liter.

My record was 750km on 48 liters (penang-Kuala Trengganu-Penang)

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Toyota's suspension system will last you 8-10 years easily if you dont seriously abuse it...

Now I regret buying that B14 lol..
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post Feb 7 2012, 12:48 AM

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ok, looks like corolla is worth the few k extra.. hmmm
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post Feb 7 2012, 01:52 AM

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I personally prefer AE101 over AE111.. how is the FC between these two?
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post Feb 7 2012, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Jan 18 2012, 10:36 AM)
Any different between the AE101 orange-red lamps and AE101 white-red lamps?...is it just the lamp color is different?
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Same model...just orange Red = 1993 year , white red = 1995 year
if u get SEG 1993 .... u can mod that rear facelift also.......(1995)

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post Feb 7 2012, 03:42 PM

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Is it worth to get year 92-93 AE100? Its almost 20 years old car dy.
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post Feb 7 2012, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Feb 7 2012, 03:42 PM)
Is it worth to get year 92-93 AE100? Its almost 20 years old car dy.
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AE100 still ok...i'm driving AE92 = 23 years old , and my family own another 2 unit AE111...
so far dun have any BIG problem ...


 

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