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 Sony Ericsson Xperia™ Pro and Neo Official Thread, :)

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post Jan 20 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(proff89 @ Jan 20 2012, 01:10 PM)
only if you can bear with plenty of noob question from me.  sweat.gif
I just want to know what custom ROM for PRO?
- currently only got cyanogenmod CM7 for Pro, but not stable.

How to flash ROM and custom Kernel?
- flashing rom is through either recovery mode or Flashtool. installing custom kernel is only through fastboot mode.

Is install zip file from SDCARD consider flashing too besides using fastboot command prompt?
or other software?
- because the zip file contains the image of the ROM, and that is called flashing. using command prompt is just script-based method. other software is like 3rd party software called "Flashtool".

Do I actually need a custom kernel?
- custom kernel often comes with recovery apps, such as ClockWorkMod. for me it is essential as it contains Nandroid (a recovery program which 100% backup EVERYTHING from ur unit and Recover back 100% exactly how it is in future), and is part of a must if u are a custom ROM modder/ app tester.

If things start getting worse, what do I have to do? like steps by steps.
- what do u mean by 'things start getting worse"?

is everything in the file you provide on root guide will be useful in the future?
- those a Must-have files for rooting and flashing. if u wanna root, or flash, u need them.

mann, I fell bad asking you this many question.  sweat.gif
but more will come tho for me to better understanding this root thing.  brows.gif
- feeling bad? Donate then. LOL

Jailbreaking easy to understand but I want challenge.  icon_rolleyes.gif
- Rooting is equivalent to Jailbreak. Rooting means going deep into the system, just like a tree's root going into the earth deeper and deeper.

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post Jan 20 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jan 20 2012, 03:45 PM)
Or can consider root as getting actual access rights, just like your PC Windows; You gain full access control.
The term jailbreak because iOS is far too strict, imagine if you buy a laptop and the Windows account given to you only "Guest" account with limited access rights and many restrictions.  Hence why many people didn't like iOS or what it did.
When you got more control of the user's action, you get less problems and more stable system.
When you give more control and power to the user, it's harder to control and maintain, thus hard to ensure the system is stable.
With great power comes great responsibility. It good to have control on the user, but it doesn't mean the user should forever stay in that level and never improve or learn. So, there should be option for the user to unlock advance more or administrator mode. You buy the device, but only given limited access rights, that didn't sound right (well, at least for me).
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u got ur point there but not exactly the 100% meaning behind root. LOL.

IMO, rooting is like modification. say..u got a PDF file with plenty of words inside there. tiba2 u find something in correct, or maybe not to its quality, or there is still space for improvement in the essay, and THUS u wanna edit the essay in the PDF file.

by right, a pdf file is a fix doc. u cannot edit anything in a pdf file. HOWEVER, u can get aftermarket software/programmes to CONVERT the pdf file to words doc. so the process to make it accessible where it no longer retain the original state of the essay and file format is somewhat like rooting an android unit.

You gain access of the original content, alter its format, modify the content whichever u think it is suitable or better than the original, then the end.

ada paham? tak paham jangan tanya. laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2012, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jan 20 2012, 04:54 PM)
Let's put in OS perspective since it's OS. By default, when you buy an OS, you should have root access granted, even if DEFAULT it's not enabled. So, not really I would consider modification, more like unlock or gain full access.
In terms of OS, with root access, you get full access and priviledge; Without root access, maybe you're just a power user, etc. in short, limited access right and priviledge.
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post Jan 26 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 25 2012, 10:43 PM)
Apparently opera mobile is causing my stock pro to repeatedly restarting. Uninstalling seems working for me. Anyone else facing the same issue?
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had u rooted ur unit? had u installed cwm in the unit? if no, u can revert everything by reflashing it via pc companion in fastboot mode.
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post Jan 27 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(JOeYJAcX @ Jan 26 2012, 10:34 PM)
need help and fast please!!![FONT=Impact][SIZE=7][COLOR=red]

my xperia neo just brick...
i've unlock bootloader, rooted, installed cwm and from stock rom i want to install SE tweak rom with stock kernel...
but after installing .zip from sd card i reboot n now the phone is bricked...
please help me...
i tried reflashing but it seem i cant get my phone into fast boot mode...
it is stuck on the sony ericsson tulisan...
f***ed up now... can't think....
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do u have CWM recovery installed in ur unit? go into that recovery mode 1st and reflash it again with ur previous firmware (the one u tried to install previously).
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post Jan 28 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:51 PM)
hey guys i just play with neo for a while and the screen looks good compare to my se play.

i know neo got bravia while play dint have but isnt that bravia only give better colour n sharpness only on pic and video?
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apparently, yes.
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post Jan 29 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Jan 29 2012, 03:02 AM)
im going to buy arc s ..
i know you going to say the same too..but dunno i just had this strong feeling that i love arc phone ..been thinking about it before it was officially launch ..
but i get x.play bcause i play lots of games and gaming console and handheld never fail to impress me and i will spend like a long time with games but not with x.play ..its just feel different..first impression was darn good but later..

i think i just cannot enjoy phone games . all those simple game like angry birds.. last me fr 20mins..then feel bored..

im using ip4 currently and i love to take photos bcause the photo got nice details..but arc/neo should be better with all the camera options .
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wow..i sujes u wait a while for xperia S to launch.. *Slurps~

QUOTE(Jjdesu @ Jan 29 2012, 03:37 AM)
Mind anyone tell me neo selling how much now?
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post Jan 29 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Jan 29 2012, 11:51 AM)
thing is xperia s is expensive at first. will drop price like 5months ? nvm la since all 2011 is last sony ericsson phone right.. after this all sony
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arc S started with a WOW price too. give them time, everything will come down. if got xperia S pro, sure i take! wahahahahahahah!!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(shark7 @ Jan 29 2012, 11:51 AM)
thing is xperia s is expensive at first. will drop price like 5months ? nvm la since all 2011 is last sony ericsson phone right.. after this all sony
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abang, minta lock the previous thread can or not? too much diversion. drop a link to the 1st page of this thread at the last page of that thread and end it. trima kasi~ smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(pacikmuda @ Jan 29 2012, 09:07 PM)
1 question...
why people alwyas say dont use adv task killer o Somthing which kill app..bcoz i need dis app to free my ram..huhu..tq.
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if u seriously need free ram, u should read more in xda forum and install stuff like v6 supercharger. advance task killer cant bring ur handphone to its max performance. smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2012, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(pacikmuda @ Jan 29 2012, 09:55 PM)
thnx siuyi..appriciate't
can u give me the link wat is about?am i need to root my phne?not newbied but dummies wth android..
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yes, u need to root ur unit.even advance task killer requires u to root if u read the requirements properly.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334834

here u go, v6 supercharge. dun hyperlink anything from that thread ya.
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post Jan 30 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(jeopardise @ Jan 30 2012, 12:52 AM)
If someone can start sharing his/her home screen would be great. I never seen Pro's home screen looks like.
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same like NEO, no difference.

QUOTE(puterabemi @ Jan 30 2012, 08:51 AM)
hurm... xperia s pro. very tempting. should i wait? coz pro version seem like take months to come to market, or might not even come to market.

why Malaysia market oni hv limited qwerty Android phone? very limited choice.
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that is why when options are limited, it is a good way to select among them and get the best among all.

QUOTE(terryforever @ Jan 30 2012, 01:05 PM)
the new version i cant root T_T
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try zergrush.

QUOTE(apizo @ Jan 30 2012, 01:23 PM)
which one better for gps and internet.....i very pening which one 2 buy....function like same je....plz help me
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among which?
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post Jan 30 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Jan 30 2012, 05:50 PM)
dammit....my PRO sseems to be having problem...sometimes it can last 1-2 days sometimes it cant even last 1 day...and nothing is draining my battery at all! =(
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kasih reflash. sometimes it is ROM problem. hot or not the battery?

QUOTE(Jjdesu @ Jan 30 2012, 06:47 PM)
Can't really decide between se Xperia neo or ray...both sounds pretty good...neo with bigger screen and dedicated camera button while ray with auto focus, geo tagging, wifi hotspot...argh! Neo cost about rm700 original now isn't it?
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people are getting NEO V over RAY so why u bother RAY over NEO? ofcoz NEO pwned RAY in this case. no authorized sets available for NEO in msia, only NEO V got authorized set. if u take NEO, confirm is AP sets only. rm7xx-8xx, depend ur luck and package and AP warranty. nod.gif
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post Jan 31 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 31 2012, 11:39 AM)
I somehow feel PRO has better loudspeaker compared to Neo V, in term of loudness and clarity...
BTW why SE now all using soooo small LED flash compared to my previous W995 which shine like halogen bulb...
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small is not a problem, but hiding at the corner of the handphone is an issue.i hardly see the led.the only time i see it is when i wanna boot into fastboot mode. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(proff89 @ Jan 31 2012, 04:10 PM)
My phone keep on getting to a recovery mode even when I don't pressed volume down. sad.gif how to counter this?


Added on January 31, 2012, 4:26 pmNow stuck at SE logo. What do I have to do?
and how to unroot back. I give up with this root thing.
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now now..what firmware are u using? 42 or 62?stuck at SE logo or reboot at SE logo? if stuck means bricked. get a 42 rooted ROM zip and save it in ur sdcard, boot it in recovery mode.

add-on: i went through xda and found out that u can only root 62 if u did unlock the bootloader previously. u didn't, am i right?

QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 31 2012, 04:52 PM)
They should make the LED flash more reliable...
btw I've just order ori Neo V white, gonna be here around 2 days! New toys new toys new toys  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(proff89 @ Jan 31 2012, 06:29 PM)
The middle one. I think 53 or 52. Well it all started like this. I try to install custom Rom which I think CM7 if not mistaken. After reading it it says that it need custom kernel in order to install the Rom. There's an image file include in that folder and since I don't know how to use command prompt, I flash it using flashtool. (I don't know if I suppose to click on 'flash kernel using HootBoot' or just 'flash kernel'. Then, it all started. 1st, when I try to reboot, my phone always go to recovery mode. Try to revert back, flash image the one in your folder then it start to stuck at SE logo. Last sekali I just root back everything. It works now! Good thing I already back up everything. biggrin.gif
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uish..u wanna try cm7 hia? tat 1 still not stable ler..cm7 u can install using recovery mode also mar, noneed use flashtool. and ur last sentence, u say u just root back everything...is it u RECOVER back everything, instead of ROOT back? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(proff89 @ Jan 31 2012, 10:23 PM)
I don't know mann, but I don't think I recover back the backup data because I already tried that when I stuck at SE logo, nothing happen. I read somewhere that certain things like FM radio and HDMI only not working. I don't use that much that's why wanna try. tongue.gif
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u backed up with nandroid? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(proff89 @ Jan 31 2012, 11:59 PM)
Yup. nod.gif
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then confirm no problem lar. as long u backup with nandroid, worse comes to worse if u can log in to recovery mode, then everything is under control. smile.gif
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QUOTE(proff89 @ Feb 1 2012, 02:30 PM)
One thing I want to ask. What will happen if I want to format my sd card? Does it effect the phone besides the apps inside? I know I will messed up the apps if I do the SDcard format.
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if format via handphone, u clear everything inside the sdcard. that includes all backup archive, image files, mp3, videos, photos...etc etc. nothing will happen except mentioned above. if u format using pc, sometimes ur handphone cannot detect back the card as it requires 2 extension files to boot it in the handphone (and it is a hidden sys file, if im not wrong).
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QUOTE(proff89 @ Feb 1 2012, 07:45 PM)
Thank you siuyi for clearing this up! First time android user tongue.gif
Guys, what do you think about Go Launcher? I think it's nice. biggrin.gif
and how to get more live wallpaper ha?
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Go launcher is good, but har IMO is quite a busy app. asyik run behind system.

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