I'm a bit outdated, can anyone tell me standard of web design fees detailly?

for example, static website, animation, scripting...

thx!

You want Malaysian company or overseas one? Overseas like Deonix will charge around $3000. Malaysian ones charge roughly RM1000.

Or you could get templatemonster and customize it. I always do these and the sites turn out just fine.

Too hard to quote without details from clients. Some quote 5-page-static-site for only RM300, some can quote upto RM600. It really depends on the "design" and the designer.

i'm guessing RM800? for a standard* brochure site.
pick one-
design-wise:depends on the quality of your work.
total = estimated hours needed x the value of your time
but don't tell them that you decided the cost based on hours...

business-wise: depends on the maximum amount the client is willing to pay.

remember, cheap clients always demand more than they pay for and almost never worth the trouble...try not to go below RM400?

*subjective

Freelance rate or company rate?

freelance, companies prolly charge RM2000 and above

For my case, anything below RM1000 is not worthy of my time, except if that project can establish a long-term business relationship with that client, giving you more projects in the future.

And wantanseller's method of determining the rate is a good basis any freelancer should refer to.

IMO there's no such thing as STANDARD pricing.

Plus the client might require you to do some montage for him, as he never provide any material for the websites!! And they ask for discount some more! These kinda clients are the most scary one...

I been doing some, cost 500 or something...
so, i just wannna make my own price list...
so, curious bout what other people is offering to their clients..

well, unless you can provide the same amount of quality as the rest, it would serve no purpose to match their price. And if you do it anyway knowing yours is of a lower quality, it means quality itself is not the determinant factor, and you might as well just charge as much as the client would pay... this means no pricelist. Realistically, like goldfries mentioned, there is no such thing as a standard price given that each has their own range of services and design. It's like asking the standard price of cars... thus the RM800 i quoted earlier can be liken to stating that the standard price of cars is RM70,000. I hope you get what I mean.

so i recommend you do a bit of research on your own and google around for malaysian web design companies ( <--these are not the keywords! ), i've seen quite a few put up their price list as well as the service that they provide. From there, form your own conclusion and decide a price that is right for you.

M'sian web design companies have a usual price range, but their offerings and pricing vary so much that you couldn't even consider it as any standard.

all in all, there's so many factors involved in web-design that it's really impossible to quantify.

the involvement of graphics, flash display, HTML codes, scripts (PHP / JS / Others) and most of all, the time and effort taken to come up with preliminary designs..........sheesh.

the one that kills the market i find, are those that put their services like RM 40 - 60 per page on newspaper. i had a client asking me this before. for all i know, they could either be good designers desperate for deals or they could just be n00bie 'thought i'm good' webdesigners that does everything on MS Publisher or something.

in short - what i'm saying is that there's more to price-per-page when it comes to web-design charges.

Would anyone have called me if i didn't come here..?

Anyway, listen to wantanseller (my assistant analyst) and goldfries (my fish in my bowl). LoL! Just kidding.

But they are right in what they're trying to explain. Countless times we've tried to describe to many people around here that a standard pricing isn't easy because in web design and development, it's based on different criterias having to do with design and development.

However, even if we ask ourselves or others first, what is a basic/standard website design/development? you won't get the same answer cause there are the companies, the freelancers and the 'wanna-bes'.

Standard to me would be HTML and CSS, template design, 5-10 pages.

That itself I normally I start from RM1000 or more (no less) and work my way up. The only time I bring down the price is after I've digged up the background of the client.

So the conclusion is, weigh yourself in all aspects of design and development skills against the freelancers then try to think about your price.

Just to give you a head start, I normally charge clients anywhere between RM30-50 an hour.

Cheers.

Nowadays clients really smart... everthing wanna cheap. Really hard to survive... design fees really cheap. What to do... just keep overhead low.

Not CLient smart..It's sometimes Our fault or silliness dunno how to sell the Web technology well..haha

If u got a strong portfolio.. they are interested wif u & dat's the moment u can give urself a high price. If u r not confident enuff, u better start wif a humble price like the others suggested.

I only interested Full package web design wif RM1000 above(No databse involved).. Else i really no mood to bother it.
Der is no Design can be done just a few times modfications.
Dat's y u gotta equal the painful<=>Profit. U will feel better if u think bout the money.

This post has been edited by dinodog_Jr: Nov 17 2005, 12:07 PM

wad if i jz could design...n i dunno those programming like php.net ler...duno wad ler.
need employ 1 programmer?

where can i get the templatemonster?

@rissband
www.templatemonster.com

buy it..

Tm89:
well, unless all your clients only want HTML.. I suppose you don't need a developer.

wad if ehh...need those php.net,java....then no choice?

unless you know how to program in those languages.. then i would say, yeah.. you'd need to outsource the work.