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zstan
post Jan 11 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Jan 11 2012, 04:49 PM)
zstan, cannot ler....very hot...we spend around 15 seconds in the hot sun..too hot already.....around 12 something

but thanks for the input...i am realizing now what is missing from my shots...is the "tropicana twister" look on the models.
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what's so difficult to ask the model to do a tropicana twister? dont think it will take more than 3 seconds to bend her body. unsure.gif

QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 11 2012, 05:07 PM)
zstan, taht how we keep quality control and integrity. we dont give all. we give the photo they need only. but also depend on commercial level, if kawan kawan, u "help" take pic for thrm, thry angpow u, diff story.

albert, its 400 F5.6 alright, but diff lens. its 70200G+2xTC
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means after i take for client, then i email to her low res files, then ask her to pick which one she wants, and i sell each pic for a price la? Usually sell for single use or unlimited use? If unlimited use, can i use it for my own in the future?
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 11 2012, 06:11 PM)
unlimited uses. u can sell them the raw too (in tiff format). depending on commercial type. if those subject u taken are exclusive to them, u only can use it for personal uses, u canot sell them to be used by others.

the copyright belongs to you, ownership is them.
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hmm but i don't shoot raw sweat.gif maybe rm50 per food item for 5 pictures? sweat.gif sweat.gif aiyo photgraphy business really not so straight forward. weddings are much easier to calculate.
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post Jan 11 2012, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 11 2012, 06:19 PM)
zstan: I'm sure you know that food photography means a lot more shots than you were initially told. wink.gif

So I'd rather charge a set fee for your time spent. What's the point of spending a whole day, but because they only pick one picture for the front of the menu, you get paid little?
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Hmm i don't mind actually. It's still a learning curve for me now and at the end of the day the photos are mine if the client doesn't want it. i can do stock photography instead lol.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 11 2012, 06:23 PM)
Y U NO shoot RAW for things like these?
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because shooting raw is too mainstream!!!

computer not good enough to process la. wait till upgrade first unsure.gif

QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 11 2012, 07:46 PM)
jpeg full size then. crisp clear.

also, sometimes, if u dont charge too high (say rm20 a pic) they sometimes have budget of, let say 400, will eventually pic 20 pic from u. if u charge 50, they will pick 5-7 pic because mindset told them its expensive even  thou they have 400myr budget

you have to get into their mind. like i have a customer (INN photo of room and facility), picks only 8 picture, each i sell for rm20 each, but he paid me 300 anyway, thats his budget he said.

albnok, but if u spend more then an hour, im pretty sure u shoot one then one item hahaha~
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haha thanks for the advise bro! i think i just stick with your idea la. rm20 per pic. seems like easy money tongue.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 11 2012, 08:00 PM)
why not just say 10set for rm300?
for maybe 1-2hours.. just pick the best and shot more if they want more pay more ler..
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yeah maybe i could put 'if i shoot more than 3 hours' then i will charge according to time.
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post Jan 12 2012, 09:38 AM

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Pork chop: see the difference between sitting and looking straight and his body tilting slightly forward And his head head slightly turned? Good job there.
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post Jan 12 2012, 02:25 PM

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post Jan 12 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Jan 12 2012, 02:33 PM)
zstan, then ini macam mana comment??

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If the model could show slightly more of her left hand it would look better to me la. And your choice of background is quite wrong here la...very very distracting.. blush.gif and you seem to like to frame your models to the extreme right...? laugh.gif

QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 12 2012, 02:50 PM)
Wah! porkchop has been busy!

I like both shots. Just that in the first pic, the bokeh a bit ugly leh... but I'm just nit picking here...  tongue.gif
Since we are spamming pics, I spam some also...

zstan - I apologize first because I no have sexy pose..  cry.gif  I only have innocent pose... need you to teach me...

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1. this shot would work better if the model sticks her face on the tiang and looking at you

2. no eye contact? =/ try to shoot from the hip or a lower angle! abuse your 20mm! don't just rely on your 85mm alone. You can do many interesting things with a UWA on a FF!

3. i'd say a full body shot will have a greater effect but that's just me.

my noob 2 cents  blush.gif

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post Jan 13 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(sugaring @ Jan 13 2012, 12:37 AM)
zstan, appreciate your comments

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F5.6, 1/30sec, ISO100 @ 28mm
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you could also move your subject's face so that the sunlight can hit her which makes her face and eyes emit a gentle glow...

QUOTE(porkchop @ Jan 13 2012, 12:56 AM)
zstan, thanks for the comment!! next round I will take note before pressing the shutter.... can comment how to improve shot like this??
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what ier said tongue.gif

QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 13 2012, 01:03 AM)
zstan : No eye contact intentional because eye contact is too mainstream! LOL!

As for no. 3, cannot go full body at this angle. Will be blocked by the stairs.

I do realize that I seldom use the 20mm for portraiture. But then again, I don't really like the distortion it tends to give. Unless of course I am using it to get some funny shots...

sugaring: I am not a fan of 'plastic complexion'. I feel that too smooth a skin tends to give the shot an unrealistic look. I like to leave it very close to natural state and do some minor blemish removal.
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Blocked by stairs? Meaning? you are shooting from below is it?
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post Jan 13 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 13 2012, 01:23 PM)
zstan : Yes. I was at the bottom of the stairs and a little to the side.

I do not have many full body shots... maybe it's my tendency to get close. Need to make a conscious effort to include more full body shots in future...

Last time I noticed that most of my shots are in portrait orientation. I made a conscious effort to include more landscape orientation shots when doing portraiture. I think I've worked out that kink... now I have to include more full body shots... smile.gif
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Well it's about time you dig out that 50mm of yours and use it as well!
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post Jan 14 2012, 07:19 AM

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Will be working at a fair at MV tomorrow wh9ole day sad.gif
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post Jan 14 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 14 2012, 08:02 AM)
what fair?
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Education fair.

And my camera is really dying. 20 times at least te camera tells me it cannot detect lens. Zzzz. So far have not missed any shots because of that stupid glitch but my patients has its limits otherwiise I'll withdraw all my savings and get the a77
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post Jan 15 2012, 09:01 AM

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38XX.... Hmmm...dunno my dad willing sponsor how much...
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post Jan 15 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 15 2012, 10:33 AM)
soon can collect ang pao festival  brows.gif visit more relative house  laugh.gif
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Maybe I buy Liao you also haven buy.

QUOTE(Zhao @ Jan 15 2012, 10:49 AM)
36XX...buying it all by yourself will make you feel  flex.gif  smile.gif

CNY ,rajin sikit pergi collect angpao. tongue.gif
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36XX?? Sure boh??

QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Jan 15 2012, 03:02 PM)
Go get it!!
It's time for ur current camera to retire as a second body smile.gif
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Come to think of it my a300 gonna be 4 years old Liao in few more months time sweat.gif time flies
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post Jan 15 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Jan 15 2012, 06:01 PM)
All the cheap 77 ish nearly gone.

Full stock recovery expected around Feb or March.

If you can wait, wait lo.

I know someone got a FF recently.

Congrats to that unknown fella.
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ah okay. no rush.

hmm why do i sound like i confirm buying one doh.gif
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post Jan 15 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 15 2012, 08:53 PM)
wahhahhaha... kena diaaa
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managed to find eneloop ?
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post Jan 16 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 16 2012, 02:02 PM)
so i guess my perception she has a perfect skin tone all this while was wrong. maybe her previous photoshoots i saw is heavily PP on her skin tone. sad.gif
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when did you last saw her photos oh? new year d leh..people growing old liao.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 16 2012, 02:20 PM)
hahahahaha, sorry lar. many moons ago. been MIA from photography and busy with life. settled down house and now hoping my "new" ride gonna be on my front door before CNY.  sweat.gif

yea lar, ppl old edi, i am old too. aih. so word of advise zstan, get a young gf/wife.  tongue.gif
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Aihhhh no money no car no house no income how to get gf laaaa? sad.gif

since you have settled all your stuff i guess it's time to come back to photography and more gears brows.gif
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Cheongsam and cars just do not match. shakehead.gif
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:12 PM

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Honestly under super bright sunlight i wouldn't be bothered about how accurate my exposure is...because i couldnt see a damn thing with the LCD... you know la my a300 don have EVF cannot view pics in viewfinder.. unsure.gif

of course if it's super under/over exposed then i will shoot again.
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 17 2012, 09:26 PM)
ZSTAN, you have been underworld-ed... hahhahaha
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Jan 17 2012, 09:29 PM)
Pawnage has occurred, and Zstan is in the losing end....
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errr what? rclxub.gif

haih those cars with those girls in cheongsam are a big turn off shakehead.gif shakehead.gif



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post Jan 18 2012, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:16 AM)
do u think u'll get bored of your fishy after a while? lol
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you cannot ask like that la bro.. even if got bored of his fish eye ADAPTER... he still got his flash and other stuff (ZEISSSSSSSSS) to play with..

you on the other hand... if you regret buying the fish eye you'd have to stick back to your kit and 30mm..

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