hi all the sifus,
i want to convert my current 3ft tank to shrimp tank
want to start with some fire red or red cherry
currently have a few guppy, neon tetra, and amano shrimp in it
the LFS in my area recommend me H.E.L.P. Advanced Soil for Shrimp
Any comment about the soil?
http://www.jpc-co.jp/help/english/soil/
I read that ADA new amazonia will release ammonia

might need 3 bags as i want to create a slop, 4-5cm at the back, 2-3cm at the front


I guess i need to rescape the whole tank and recycle everything before it's shrimp safe, right?

Thanks in advance for all the inputs!


Found a link regarding the soil
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/showt...2510#post582510

looks good

This post has been edited by ivan92: Apr 9 2013, 03:38 AM

I see.

Too bad I'm too far from the shop you listed above.
I'm in Sabah. Shipping would costs a bomb.

So I can just get sand from hardware shop/soil for planting and clean it then pour into my current tank, correct?
Any types of small gravel from LFS is good enough already, yes? How about the gravel that used in landscaping?

I want to start with Neocaridina as they are more hardy
Then might move to CRS once I gained more experiences on keeping shrimps. Wouldn't want to have massacre on expensive shrimps
The 5 essential food/supplement for basic shrimp keeper that you're selling, do I need it for my setup?

Bought a few amano to test my tank after I removed all the fishes into another tank to. No casualties on the new amano, I guess the tank is fully cycled and should ok for Neocaridina shrimps, will keep them until putting the sands/gravel, then only throw them into the community tank.

I didn't test the water as I don't have any freshwater test kit. I guess I should get a API Freshwater Test Kit.

Any comment on the Fluval Ebi 30L Shrimp Tank Kit? It looks quite nice in my area's LFS with heavily planted setup. The price is quite high IMO.

This post has been edited by ivan92: Apr 10 2013, 12:34 AM

I see. LFS here selling at 388.
Maybe will get the Fluval Tank in the future after become more experienced.
Thanks for the info on gravel/sand. Will go to look around at hardware store/garden supply shops for the sand/soil.
Hopefully can get the tank fully converted by the end of the month.

just transfer shrimp into empty container, then transfer soil and water into new tank, then put shrimp into new tank

provided that you reuse the water from the old tank, i dont think there will be any problem

My LFS is selling Fluval EBI Nano Shrimp tank at RM300, tempted to get it and transfer all my shrimp into it.
Currently using a free 3ft old tank with river sand for shrimp keeping. Feel like divide it into half to keep betta and other small size fish.

Saw it at other LFS selling at 350-4xx
Is it a good buy?

I see. Thanks for the advice
Previously saw it at the same LFS selling at 388, now new unit 300. Luckily didn't bought it that time.


The soil is quite thin, you just use the one came with the tank, didnt add additional soil?

Will cycle it, does test kit really needed? Or I can just put a few yamato/cap ayam shrimp after 2 weeks to see whether it's done?
So now you're using what filter for the Fluval Ebi Tank?
And I read some complaints regarding the light came with the tank, yours got any issues?
Now I'm using Boyu's digital thermometer.

This post has been edited by ivan92: Jun 12 2013, 02:02 AM

I think you can start from Neocaridina type like red cherry or fire red
http://www.planetinverts.com/
this site provide quite complete information for new starter
also can refer to arrow to get info and shrimps

This post has been edited by ivan92: Jun 12 2013, 11:28 AM

I see.
I think I gonna take away the background to give more space to the shrimp.
But saw some people use it to create moss wall.
Any updated pictures for your Ebi tank?
Mind to share it?

depends on how you want to start
The Fluval Ebi tank set costs about 3xx.
If you buy normal glass tank from LFS, price vary depending on the size.
normally from 20-100 depending the size and thickness of the glass
then filter, airpump, anti chlorine, shrimp food, got cheap one and expensive one
gravel/sand(optional), ceramic tube(optional), decoration(optional), driftwood(optional), plants, etc is up to your preferences
the the shrimp, red cherry costs about 1 each, fire red costs about 5-7 each depending on the shops, here got a few breeders also selling it

mine is lowest 29 degree, highest 31 degree, no direct sunlight
all still alive

i started with 10 fire red, then 6 died, left 4 only. since april until today
then i bought 40 red cherry from breeder here, all are quite small, cant really see them as they are good at hiding.
all are quite active scampering around the tank and digging the sands
they even created a big slope near the end of the tank

Looks great. Maybe I need to put more silicone to make the background firmly stick on the back.
Then use it to create a moss wall. LFS told me that the light came with this tank won't promote algae growth, true?
Saving money now. Hopefully can get the tank by August

Anyway, lava rock is safe in shrimp tank?

I see. I knew it!!
Algae = natural food for shrimp, so I won't mind that
Anyway you mentioned anti-chlorine, now i'm using those rm1.50/bottle anti-chlorine. Shrimps are quite ok.
What anti-chlorine you would recommend? Fluval or API? The Fluval one came with the tank is quite small.
Gonna use better anti-chlorine for the ebi tank

i see, i didn't see seachem prime in the LFS, maybe will go to other shops to look for it

i only saw this one in LFS, should be ok since it's bundle with the tank?

mind to share what anti-chlorine you're using now?

guys, what type of filter are you all using?

wanted to put the one came with fluval ebi tank in my upcoming betta tank

easy aqua mini canister filter looks good, will 500L/H be too strong for fluval ebi tank (30L)?
price is about rm20 more than the fluval C3 HOB in my LFS

or i should get a curved 1.5 ft normal tank plus all the accessories instead of fluval ebi tank for shrimp tank?
want to move my shrimps from 3ft tank to a smaller tank because i cant see them except during their makan time

hmm, any comment on astro canister filter?
it's priced at RM100+- like the easy aqua
only difference is easy aqua can hang on the side of the tank while astro cant

because i'm moving out by the end of this year
so i would like to sell off the 3ft tank and move all the shrimps into a smaller tank like fluval ebi as the new place doesn't have much room for a 3ft tank

anyway i got 2 fire red died a few days ago, so far only my fire red keep dying
red cherry, rili, oto all are all right
bad batches fire red i guess

new tank in coming
moving all my shrimps from 3 ft tank to this



now still waiting the silicon for the background to cure

anyway, driftwood from nursery can be use in shrimp tank?
or must use the one from fish shop

saw a few one quite nice in the fish shop but pricing

just sharing my tank

initial setup stage




mostly are red cherry, 2 fire red, and 1 rili shrimp

algae started to grow around the shrimp tube and the glass
natural food for them
now only feed them once every 2 days

i use the internal filter to clear the dirt and store carbon in it
after 3 days then i use EX500 only
now shifted it to soon-to-be betta tank

now i got about 30++ shrimps + countless shrimplets
mostly red cherry, fire red left the strongest 2 as the other 8 long gone already, rili left 1 the strongest
clay decor looks nicer than plastic decor IMHO

all right, maybe i shall get some fire red supply from you as well

aarow my shrimps really like your food
all keep fighting to get the food