dont get me wrong kadajawi, what i mean is that if we want prtn to have nearly same quality of cars, we need to be prepared to pay at the same premium price as well. Thats why if saga(base line model) want to have a quality like polo(likely base line model for vw),saga need to be priced atleast 80k, but the problem is,is there anyone want to buy saga at 80k? The same as exora, is there anyone want to buy exora @ 120k atleast? Even when exora prime price at rm88k which happened cheaper than innova(same tax as locals for innova),but with bundle of goodies n leathers and safety gadgets, but people still say it is expensive. People only accept exora prime at the same price of exora bold cfe @rm80k.

That is why it is really hard for prtn to make everyone happy coz price is really important part for people to buy prtn cars. They dont care even when prtn come with sedan that has 10 airbags with the same price of vios, they still buy vios coz for them,the emblem itself is value for money. Prtn with 10 airbags with the same price as vios will be label as overcharge n pricey n etc...

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Added on January 7, 2012, 2:01 pmops,forgot to mentioned, agreed on hefty tax in malaysia compare to outside.

of couse vios is price higher due to tax, but also due to traders profit. Let me inform u, vios is under asean cept program n it being tax the same as locals @ 75% excise duty n 10% sales tax. 10% ckd import tax is wave due to cept.Same as saga,@ 75% excise duty n 10% sales tax. Please refer to www.maa.org.my to get clear picture.

Locals rebate 50% on excise duty already lifted since 2009,it is under nap program. So,now they are equally in term of tax paid. Refer to www.customs.org.my , www.maa.org.my n midf website.

So, what had happened? It is higher traders profit charge by toyota to us. If u have opportunity to look at ap paperworks,u will be shock coz even some take traders profit at 70k percar,its not from europe,it is from asia country.

Saga is not relevant to compare to vios, coz even without tax, its still cheaper than vios. True competitor is persona elegance n gen2.

Just wait for p321a, it is direct competitor with vios n city, with same tax applied, n judge whether prtn can do better or not compare to vios@city.

Dont talk about old tax structure coz we are now in 2012. Happy motoring.

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Added on January 11, 2012, 3:33 pmjust wait whether p321a premium is par with inspira @ rm80 below or better or lesser.