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TSJollySheep
post Dec 16 2011, 05:54 PM, updated 14y ago

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I have 2 rooms with a shared bathroom. The bathroom is quite small. My contractor suggested two bi-fold doors for this bathroom.
I don't like bi-fold door. 2 bi-fold door, lagi i don't like. What if install a swing door which open the other way round? I mean swing out,
instead of swing in the bathroom. Any advise/comment is welcomed. Thanks.

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phoenix69
post Dec 16 2011, 06:08 PM

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I am about to install my bathroom door also.
Any comments on this? hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:11 PM

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Depend your open space in the room. Open outside mean you have less usable space in the room.
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 16 2011, 06:11 PM)
Depend your open space in the room. Open outside mean you have less usable space in the room.
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After extension, both 2 rooms are quite long. But not wide. Might wanna put a study table just near the window.
If so, the door might hit the table if swing in the room. Any other drawbacks? hmm.gif


Added on December 16, 2011, 6:22 pm
QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Dec 16 2011, 06:08 PM)
I am about to install my bathroom door also.
Any comments on this?  hmm.gif
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U too have a small bathroom?

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weikee
post Dec 16 2011, 06:26 PM

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Water can flow out if your shower is near the door.

I find bi fold is good especially the good quality type.
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:31 PM

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If you plan to swing out, than after door open should against windows area instead of other side, so that you will not hit anyone who may walk across to the windows.

You may also need to practice of closing the toilet door as it will block your walk way lol...

Also, take note if you swing out, water leaved at the door will drop inside your room.
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:33 PM

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Did you shorten the bathroom while extending? I also have a similar bathroom, but it lengthened together with my rooms, so now there's no problem opening the two doors inwards (into the bathroom).

As weikee said, the problem comes when you're washing your bathroom, or if the shower is near the door and the splash will drip out into your room even if the door is closed.

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TSJollySheep
post Dec 16 2011, 06:42 PM

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Just wider the bathroom by 1'. Cannot make it longer anymore, as their is not enough space for the room window.


Added on December 16, 2011, 6:46 pmWeikee & Jo_da48 have given me the drawbacks that i really need to reconsider for bi-fold door. Just hate the sound crack crack crack when opening/closing the bi-fold door. Btw, bi-fold door can lock from inside and outside?

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post Dec 16 2011, 06:47 PM

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When have strong water pressure water splash sure everwhere.


Added on December 16, 2011, 6:49 pmCan have dual lock I am using two of this in the share bathroom.


Added on December 16, 2011, 6:50 pmWhy got crack sound? Mine not too bad

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post Dec 16 2011, 06:55 PM

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I just get 5 Bi-Fold installed today....
3 coming with two lock (inside + outside) only extra RM10 per set.

You need to do some maintainance if have funny sound.
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:55 PM

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why not try slide door?
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post Dec 16 2011, 07:00 PM

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This is my shared bathroom measurement. I have a big problem to determine the size of the countertop and type of basin to be used.
Both doors sure cannot fully open and will hit the countertop. Looking for better solution...

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post Dec 16 2011, 07:04 PM

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6' by 6' small for counter top with 2 door. Maybe consider the standing sink without counter top. Think is hard to put shower screen
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post Dec 16 2011, 07:37 PM

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Ya loh... No shower screen. If use bi-fold door, enough space for countertop?
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post Dec 16 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Dec 16 2011, 06:31 PM)
If you plan to swing out, than after door open should against windows area instead of other side, so that you will not hit anyone who may walk across to the windows.

You may also need to practice of closing the toilet door as it will block your walk way lol...

Also, take note if you swing out, water leaved at the door will drop inside your room.
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That is a good point, Looks like I will have to go with bi fold as 2 toilets on the 1st floor, outside all laminated flooring. blush.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(JollySheep @ Dec 16 2011, 07:37 PM)
Ya loh... No shower screen. If use bi-fold door, enough space for countertop?
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If you put both doors beside the counter top, minimal 30" per door, you need 60" for 2 doors. you only have 12" for counter top that is very small.

How about 1 door beside the WC, and another beside the counter top, that way you can move your counter top toward the Left a bit and have bigger counter top. Max I would think 30" to 36"
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post Dec 17 2011, 02:55 AM

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Hi Jollysheep; was this more of your intended idea?

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Contractor`s Idea...

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post Dec 17 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 17 2011, 02:55 AM)
Hi Jollysheep; was this more of your intended idea?

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Contractor`s Idea...

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Thanks for the layout. Perfectly illustrated my bathroom plan. After think twice, I think I can't install a countertop. Sigh...
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post Dec 17 2011, 04:30 PM

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fold door not secure...
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post Dec 17 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(minimart8 @ Dec 17 2011, 04:30 PM)
fold door not secure...
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How secure you need? get wooden door lo
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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 17 2011, 04:38 PM)
How secure you need? get wooden door lo
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because sometimes i close d but got people still can open the door... sigh what also let them see d
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post Dec 17 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(minimart8 @ Dec 17 2011, 04:30 PM)
fold door not secure...
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Haha... Your own house leh... Not public toilet...
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post Dec 17 2011, 05:37 PM

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If change the WC position from this Attached Image

to this, very difficult and tedius? Btw, this is 1st floor toilet. Attached Image
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post Dec 17 2011, 06:10 PM

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Depend if the wc outlet hose is done or not? Do you think the wc have enough space to squat?
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post Dec 17 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(JollySheep @ Dec 17 2011, 08:37 PM)
If change the WC position from this Attached Image

to this, very difficult and tedius? Btw, this is 1st floor toilet. Attached Image
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not valid idea. Bad idea. very bad.

My solution: biggrin.gif

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- Forget about double basin for a small place.
- The more you wish to alter to your design eventually will just make it hard for the one using the space.
- small space need proper thinking; area circulation is crucial also. icon_idea.gif
- back wall piping also another consideration. smile.gif

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post Dec 17 2011, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(minimart8 @ Dec 17 2011, 05:11 PM)
because sometimes i close d but got people still can open the door... sigh what also let them see d
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Plastic swing door also same la. Kid run bang will open already.
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post Dec 17 2011, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 17 2011, 06:57 PM)
not valid idea. Bad idea. very bad.

My solution:  biggrin.gif
- Forget about double basin for a small place.
- The more you wish to alter to your design eventually will just make it hard for the one using the space.
- small space need proper thinking; area circulation is crucial also. icon_idea.gif
- back wall piping also another consideration. smile.gif
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Good solution. Unfortunately, I cannot change the door position. It's a newly built bathroom.
I don't like the bathroom door directly facing the room door. Meaning see the bathroom door once enter the room.
Thus, I change the bathroom door to the side.

I think now I have to:
- use wall hung basin
- use bi-fold door or install a door to swing backward


Added on December 17, 2011, 8:21 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 17 2011, 06:10 PM)
Depend if the wc outlet hose is done or not? Do you think the wc have enough space to squat?
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Everything is done, including tiles. My contractor never say anything! When he built this toilet,
He is the one who recommended this size of toilet! I did not realize it that small!

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post Dec 17 2011, 10:05 PM

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6' x 6' is not small if you only have one door. My 1st floor shared toilet was around that size when build, luck I notice it earlier and lengthen it to 9.5', else I will have the same headache.

Contractor especially the old school will always think is enough because they still think of old school style like wall sink, no shower screen.
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post Dec 17 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(JollySheep @ Dec 17 2011, 11:17 PM)
Good solution. Unfortunately, I cannot change the door position. It's a newly built bathroom.
I don't like the bathroom door directly facing the room door. Meaning see the bathroom door once enter the room.
Thus, I change the bathroom door to the side.

I think now I have to:
- use wall hung basin
- use bi-fold door or install a door to swing backward


Added on December 17, 2011, 8:21 pm

Everything is done, including tiles. My contractor never say anything! When he built this toilet,
He is the one who recommended this size of toilet! I did not realize it that small!
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then you are in for troubles.

I guess the solution you are seeking are pretty deadlock.

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If the wall build are not structural then its okay; if it is, kind of hard.
But since you did not see work out & base it on contractor idea; i guess there is cost incur if you want to do serious alteration.




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post Dec 18 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(JollySheep @ Dec 16 2011, 05:54 PM)
I have 2 rooms with a shared bathroom. The bathroom is quite small. My contractor suggested two bi-fold doors for this bathroom.
I don't like bi-fold door. 2 bi-fold door, lagi i don't like. What if install a swing door which open the other way round? I mean swing out,
instead of swing in the bathroom. Any advise/comment is welcomed. Thanks.

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Why not try PD door ?

http://www.reliancemetal.com.my/door-pd.asp?c=5
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post Dec 18 2011, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(mikessc @ Dec 18 2011, 12:36 AM)
You sure that Reliance still has this? blink.gif
I had a talk with the Reliance installer (sifu level) around 3 months ago and he says that they discontinued this item.
Main reason is that the levelling workmanship in many homes are not up to standard to accommodate this door type.

 

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