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blacktrix
post Dec 26 2005, 06:00 PM

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Probably the Pioneer line of CDJs. The CDJ-100S costs RM1,399 each. If you want, they offer a CDJ set (Called The Groove Box) which includes 2 CDJ-100s, the DJM-300-S mixer (which costs RM1,399 on it's own) and a Pioneer headphone which costs RM3,999.

And about your turntables, you can probably get it fixed at the high-end hi-fi shop in 1 Utama.
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post Dec 26 2005, 06:25 PM

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Cool stuff. Sorry to ask, but where is the high-end hi-fi shop in 1 Utama? Lazy to check everything, that place is huge!

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post Dec 26 2005, 08:08 PM

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One of them is near Guitar Collection, outside of Jusco (Second Floor, Old Wing). The other.... I forgot where. Somewhere in the new wing, third floor.
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post Jan 13 2006, 12:12 AM

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blacktrix... since you're in da djing scenes whatcha think of laptop dj?

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post Jan 13 2006, 12:37 AM

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If you're a small club DJ or just mixing music at parties..... honestly, I'd prefer a laptop setup any day. Get your whole MP3 collection on there and you can mix and match without worrying about finding that one disc.

Last time I DJ'd at a friends place using a laptop, he was hooked up to a WiFi broadband..... so I was mixing tunes at the party and people came up with requests, so I just download them on the spot, and started queing it up on the next song.... awsome party that one....

But if you already HAVE a large collection on Vinyl and you play Pro at Clubs, then Turntables are the only way to go..... and if you're a hip-hop DJ.... don't even THINK of using a laptop.

BTW.... I pretty much depend on PCDJ FX software..... so far the most stable and reliable DJ mixing software on the market.
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post Jan 13 2006, 12:44 AM

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i have to agree with ya on hip hop dj using da vinyl tho there's some of them using cd tho but then again ya can't beat the true sratch and warm sounds on the vinyl. btw what software were you using on that party. i plan to head towards the digital technology like what dj superstar sasha did.

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post Jan 13 2006, 07:06 AM

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I just said......... PCDJ FX
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post Jan 13 2006, 07:38 PM

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oo.. guess i didn't get much sleep yesterday so didn't much catch your post fully... so whatcha think of ableton?
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post Jan 13 2006, 08:12 PM

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I've been longing to learn DJing. My question is:
I suppose the vinyls will cost bomb. How about just a final scratch and a computer with tonnes of song? It will do right huh? I'm thinking if I were to get those turntables, I gotta spend alot on those vinyls.

Oh ya, one question. What is time-coded vinyl or CD?


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post Jan 13 2006, 09:45 PM

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A Time-Coded Vinyl (or CD) is a special designed Disc where the only thing you'll hear is white noise. But when it's played back through a computer, it will reinterpreate that as your Mp3s. The "time" is where the position of the disc, and the position of your song will sync. You can find a demo of the system here: http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/medi...ideo/700408.wmv

And don't think that the Final Scratch System is cheap. Expect to pay upwards of 3000 ringgit. And besides, you will need at least SOME understanding of how vinyl works before you start DJing. Add that to the cost of a beginners DJ setup (which is about 1700) and you're already looking at close to 5 grand for a "Digital" setup.

Invest in a "Teach Yourself DJing" that comes with Vinyl for you to practise on before you invest in the Final Scratch system. Once you have done that, go to a vinyl shop and purchase some Vinys to help you get started. Ask the shop owner what vinyls you should get to get you started. Some breakbeats if you're a Hip-hop/Scratch/Battle DJ or some nice grooves if you're a Club DJ.

And if you ARE a club DJ..... why not experiment with PCDJ FX first? Get to know how to mix and match beats and music together before you start on the vinyl.....

and to B4ss.... I haven't used Ableton Live (I assume that's what you're refering to). I checked it up, and it looks like a Sequencer to me. I prefer to use Reason 3.0 and Adobe's Audition to make and record my tracks. I used to use Cubase, but I find Audition easier to master.

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post Jan 14 2006, 07:12 PM

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yup ableton live bro... like what sasha, bt, pete tong, hawkins uses. but after nerding out myself on laptop route i find that it will cost a bomb to invest too man. anyways katopunk why don't ya try tracktor software it's pretty neat too but to fully utilize it get ya self a midi controller.
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post Jan 14 2006, 07:26 PM

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I haven't used it, so really can't comment on it..... And like the guitars..... don't follow what your idols use JUST because they use it....
Use it because you actually WANT to use it...
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post Jan 14 2006, 09:27 PM

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sorry all those above aren't my idol either is just that i choose to open more options. like my mentor told me once just use whatever software that ya comfortable with and i find ableton session mode is pretty neat to dj with but as sequencer i still prefer reason anytime.
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post Jan 14 2006, 10:54 PM

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Good for you man! Decide for your ownself to see what you like and don't like.
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post Jan 15 2006, 04:57 PM

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lol now ya starting to act like a kiddo tho... oh well honestly i'm not ere to start a nazi war or stuff, i just here askin for ya opinions tho... but somehow or rather u just tend to attack on my Q&A tho.
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post Jan 15 2006, 07:25 PM

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No... I didn't mean in any sarcastic way.... just that you are finding for yourself what makes a good DJ and stuff like that....
Heck, when I started out...... I wanted all of DJ Hahn (of Linkin Park) stuff! MUST have a Rane mixer..... Must have a Technics 1200 (actually........ the Technics 1200 is the De Facto standard of ANY giging DJ)....... But then finally discovered that I should develop the skills first and start from there.....

Although that's totaly the opposite when it comes to guitar..... :Þ

Sorry if I offended you or anything...... but I meant that you should just explore what is out there, rather then just sticking to your idols.....
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post Jan 16 2006, 07:27 PM

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oo ok guess i got your point of view and ya i used to be like that 11 years ago when i used to idol dimebag as my guitar god wanted his washburn so badly n stuff until i settle down with a kramer to development ma skills from there... too bad he's dead and nowadays i don't really have an idol.
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post Jan 16 2006, 07:46 PM

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May I suggest Zakk Wylde????!! *grins*
I'm now a life long member of the Black Label Society already......

I'm probably the only Zakk Wylde worshiper, who can DJ AND was infatuated by Hilary Duff.
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post Jan 20 2006, 05:40 PM

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oo ya zakk wylde pretty cool... oh yea btw blacktrix i might actually go for cdj instead of laptop cause of the cost efficient... even if running ableton or tracktor stuff u still need to invest a bomb to start with too. any recommend for cdj instead?
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post Jan 20 2006, 07:27 PM

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I'm not a big fan of the CD-Js.... mainly I feel that the budget ones doesn't offer the speed and timing of the Vinyls...... but that's just my opinion.

the CHEAPEST option I can find so far is the Piooner Groove Box set.... It comes with 2 CDJ-100s players, the DJM-300S mixer and a set of headphones.....all for the grand total of RM3999. Yes. That's the cheapest I can find so far..... There are other brands, but Pioneer CD-Js are reputably one of the better and cheaper ones (especially the CDJ-100s). Anything below the Pioneer, and your playing will start to suffer..... Slow load times, not enough Cue points, slow search speeds... The CDJ-100s are probably the benchmark......

Now.... You compare that with buying an Acer Travelmate 3633 (Costs RM2199), Pump up an extra 512 of Ram (RM150, Kingston DDR2), Get an Audigy 2zs Laptop soundcard (should be RM355, last time I checked), And maybe Western Digital 60gig laptop HDD with enclosure (about RM330) for a grand total of RM3034 before discount..... For a thousand bucks LESS, you get a laptop that can perform the same task AND you don't have to carry around your entire CD collection PLUS your DJ setup....... and if you're gigging, it's sooooooo much easier to carry around a laptop instead.......

Think about that........

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