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guys, now i'm doing some homework here. i wanna learn to mix musics. might get myself a gear to start with. i think i don't want to get vinyl TT as it's kinda pain in the ass i should say as you'll be gettin hard times to find those vinyls and it doesn't comes cheap. i donno. it's just my point of view.
instead i'm eyeing on some CDJ and HDDJ. as it's much more easier and cheaper to source tracks.
how's Gemini iCDJ http://store.topdjgear.com/geicipcocdpa.html and Numark iDJ2 http://store.topdjgear.com/nuidipmicows.html ? what you guys say? i'm thinkin of spendin about 3k. gonna save hard for this. =)

if you're into scratch hip hop style go for vinyls, if you're in club music then go for cdj. i'm not sure about ipod dj stuff though but since you wanna learn to mix why not learn to mix with software first... i do suggest spending another 1k to get a pioneer cdj100 package its pretty good for a start.

and no. i don't like hip-hop musics. i like club musics.
learn to mix with software? gosh. i've tried that and it just comes right with the mixing. and it's pain in the ass from wad i experienced. i've got no idea just how to mix with mouse and keyboard.

For me any music will do fine with original direct drive turn tables. Love'em for their perfect latency from the weight of the hand

Actually...... Since you want to learn to mix...... start with software. Seriously. That's how I learned to get the timing and beats right......
Honestly.... I STILL use software to mix songs at parties, and I use my Vinyls for scratching stuff on recordings I do.

Since the numark iDJ 2 STILL requires the use of an iPod, unless you already own one, then I don't think it's the most suitable option. If you're just mixinf for fun..... then get a cheap CD-J system and that should be fine..... but if you want to move to the pros.... invest in either a Computer Based system (like PCDJ red with their DMC-1 controller)... or a professional grade CD-J system...... both might run up as high as 4-5k easily.

And if you're a REAL gigger.... then screw CD systems and go for a laptop based solution instead........ the last thing you want to carry to a gig is a huge case of CDs/Vinyls which you might end up losing a few in the process as well.

yup even blacktrix suggest software 1st once you're really into it you can invest more into those expensive gears. better than buying a expensive gear 1st then not touching it after a change of interest. even some pub i know are using software, i remember seeing pcdj which blacktrix mention it been used in some pub playing mambo jambo oldies lol. just do a search there are ton of softwares and usb console out there for you to fool around really.

Try out PCDJ red and have fun with it man...... honestly. Will teach you alot about mixing....

Check out Traktor - allot of credible DJ's in KL's underground using it. They usually supplement it with a couple of additional stuff though:

External soundcard (one with more than just 1in1out) I personally use a M-audio quattro with 4ins4outs

Then...

You find a DJ mixer (DJM500's are allot of fun) or even the Behringer models arent so bad.

Then...

You take 2 outs and plug them into 1 channel of thie mixer - the other two on another channel.

In Traktor's preferences, swap to External Mixer mode - that way you can cue with the mixer, and mix as if you have 2 virtual decks with Traktor.

Of course - if you REALLY want to get fancy.

You can sync a few Traktor computers together - plug in more drum machines - and mash up tracks like a nutcase. But your ears are gonna bleed and your fingers are gonna go numb after the 4th hour.

We tried it. This is about 5 in the morning at a jam session.

Its sort of Final Scratch mode without the scratchamp hardware - Traktor's nice cos you can loop - and the differenciating factor between Traktor and cd/vin mixing is that now that it allows you to go beyond what two decks can do - ie: mashing loops up or multiple syncs

Let us know how your progress goes! I'd be interested to see if KL's gonna have another Juan Atkins

Man, that looks sick..... Would definately want to invest more cash in a proper DJ setup the next time....... once my MacBook arrives next year (Waiting for the next upgrade), I think I MIGHT get Final Scratch....... provided I don't buy any more new guitars!!

Well - check out Serato by Raine - they have some seriously good hardware AND it uses Traktor as a backend as well. Final Scratch is nice - but Stanton don't stand behind their design as firmly as Raine does.

Yeah man - the next rev of the Macbooks - thats gonna be SIiiiiiickkk...

Have you checked out Ableton Live?

seriously ...i dont recommend beringer headphones.....bought one for my fren....the head phone didnt last for 3 months.....=.= preferable u order from the selected stores which are sole distributors..... dont buy too cheap products like me.... =(

What happened to them? Did they break? Or did the diaphram tear?

I've got a friend who's swearing by his Behringers - but then again - for about RM500 you can pick up a pair of Technics or Pioneer headphones.

Great for DJ/LivePA but they really hurt your ears if you wanna do studio monitoring for a mixdown.

Hi guys , i'm interested in learning DJ-ing , a techno/trance DJ.. can you guys recommend me what should i do in the first step ? maybe get some equipments and learn it myself ? where can i get those in KL .. and what's the price for them ? thanks

Read through this thread and you will eventually discover Stanton's and also Numark DJ stater kits. Retail below 2K....

Rane Serato and Stanton's Final Scratch are not the only solution for digital DJing. By the way, they cost too much!

DJDecks.be is the cheapest solution. A very stable software with good support! With that, you have the option of playing real vinyl unlike CD turntables.

2nd-hand/used Technics SL-1200 & Vestax PDX2000 turntables are cheap (<RM1500) and last longer than newer Numark or Stantons. Same concept when buying a used European car compared to a new local model.

Below is my setup for MP3/Digital DJing:
1 x Audiotrak Maya 44 PCI soundcard
1 x AMD 1.2 Duron computer
2 x Vestax PDX2000 turntables
1 x Vestax PMC07 mixer

PM me if you're looking for 2nd-hand turntables & mixers. Will try and work something out within your budget.

wanna ask u all DJ ppl, what do u all think of m-audio's torq thats just released(from what i know). saw some vids on youtube.

i don't think starter kits are good man, what's the point of buying gears if somewhere in the middle you're gonna quit coz your hardware sucks. if the budget is super tight, getting used standard stuff is better than those starter kits.

Looks nice, its bringing technology into another level but the thing is anything can go wrong when you are using a pc to dj. Thats what I think

Agree, might as well save up for technics. Be patient and get a pair of good decks, trust me its worth getting technics.

This post has been edited by redbustop: Jan 25 2007, 09:43 PM