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 Hong Leong Income Builder & Income Riders, Innovative and Flexible

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cwsimonho
post Jan 28 2012, 09:06 AM

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after sourcing around and even myself becoming an agent, i think mnulife is giving a much more higher benefits.

It incorporated endowment + fd (4.5% daily rest, no penalty upon withdrawal) + life coverage (min 100k) with just a minimum premium of 500/month.

but talking about 30% 1 year? i think i wanna change to h.l.a already... lol
cwsimonho
post Apr 30 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:46 AM)
Sure its 2.xx %? Why didn't factor in the GYI for the 10years? Since its guaranteed I thing it should be factored in.

Currently got agent selling this to me, hope get more details before I commit..
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the GYI already factored into the surrender value. If you are to take out the GYI the return should lower.
I'm wondering how much is the death benefit given to the RM 12,000/year plan.


Added on April 30, 2012, 12:44 am
QUOTE(cwsimonho @ Apr 30 2012, 12:14 AM)
the GYI already factored into the surrender value. If you are to take out the GYI the return should lower.
I'm wondering how much is the death benefit given to the RM 12,000/year plan.
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I think this is better. But sadly the lowest premium is RM12,000.
It has a flexibility of withdrawing >50% of the premium paid without affecting the plan in case of emergency.
Moreover it has a high Death/TPD benefit compared to other endowment plans.

Year Premium Guaranteed N.Guaranteed Death/TPD Coverage
1 12,000 6,270 1,839 80,070
2 12,000 14,022 4,300 87,822
3 12,000 26,400 5,092 94,723
4 12,000 36,293 7,542 103,134
5 6,000 40,082 12,125 108,654
6 6,000 45,738 14,256 114,354
7 6,000 50,238 19,445 120,170
8 6,000 55,103 23,525 126,052
9 1,680 57,507 27,935 127,740
10 1,680 60,276 31,071 130,980
11 1,680 62,811 40,196 137,911
12 1,680 65,721 43,947 142,063
13 1,680 68,399 50,589 146,348
14 1,680 71,461 54,902 150,912
15 1,680 74,296 62,190 155,626
16 1,680 77,523 67,202 160,642
17 1,680 80,530 75,292 165,863
18 1,680 83,941 81,126 171,377
19 1,680 87,140 90,071 177,104
20 1,680 92,649 95,241 183,449

*editted due to wrong payment figure. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by cwsimonho: May 1 2012, 01:36 AM
cwsimonho
post Aug 27 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 26 2012, 06:28 PM)
lol actually i been contact with hla agent on this product also... but i really terkejut why all so negative feedback here...i haven't joined yet...the agent more emphasize on me joining to sell and promote this product than selling me this product...

so i study it...it seems one of the best forced saving inclusive of protection plan(insurance) in the market right now? think about it...they are paying 5.5% dividend guaranteed yearly from 1st year onwards until maturity...and the 5.5% dividend rate is not on HOW MUCH YOU ALREADY SAVE...ITS PAYED ON HOW MUCH IN YOUR CONTRACT YOU PRMOISE TO SAVE IN 6,9, OR 12 YEARS PLAN... they are basically paying you dividend on your future saving value, not current saving value....which investment vehicle right now able to offer those? i would like to invest oso...

futhermore...why the ppl here bising2 the high commission the agents get paid with this plan...its not stated pun in the product disclosure they deduct your saving premium to pay your agent...its not like unit trust where upfront they tell you gonna deduct 4-6.5% of your capital as fees for the agent and stuff...

those agent are working without basic and im sure hong leong bank pay their commission on an insentive scheme based on the total profit margin enjoyed by the bank as a whole...

if you really kiamsap dont want the agent to get those commission, why not you contact them and instead ask to join under them, buy this saving retirement plan under your own name as agent? sure you get those high commission based on your own investment... smile.gif so u get high dividend return that payed based on future value, insurance protection and u get hugeee discount bcoz u receive commission from ur own investment as well under ur name as agent...
let say i take 12 years contract plan and to save rm10K annual premium...(6% return p.a as example)
6% P.A
INVEST  RETURN
1)  10000 7200+ SI DEDUCTION RM240 PER MONTH IN SALARY ACCOUNT OR CREDIT CARD
2)  10000 7200
3)  10000 7200
4)  10000 7200
5)  10000 7200
6)  10000 7200
7)  10000 7200
8)  10000 7200
9)  10000 7200
10) 10000 7200
11) 10000 7200
12) 10000 7200
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  120000      86400

* I will just banked in the 1st year premium of RM10K...after one year i will receive say 6% dividend based on rm120K future value in contract that i promise to pay....that dividend is RM7200 per annum withdrawable from year 1...then lets say i take the dividend to pay back the 2nd year premium and top up rm2800...which comes up to rm240 salary deduction as saving..... keep paying rm240 per month for the next 12 years...by the 12 year stop paying and you already have fund inside the plan of up to RM120K...

the money you bank in in 12 years= rm10k upfront + rm33600= rm43600 total....after 12 years get return of rm120K....
now you tell me which investment vehicle right now that can beat this plan that i taylor made it myself for retirement plan in 15-20years time???
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I don't think you can get back rm120k if you take out the annual guaranteed bonus.

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