In a traffic jam just now some ... hit my car and damaged the mirror. I was standing, so not my fault. Can I claim from insurance? Unfortunately he didn't crash, so I don't know who it was. IIRC the insurance is of the fully covered type...

Fortunately the mirror itself wasn't damaged, just the outer casing, but I'm afraid repairing it will cost a lot...

usually not worth it to pay insurance, deal with it or repaint/putty

If you claim, you'll lose your NCB.

if that is your question : Sure.. u can claim your own First Party insurance...

But you might not wanna claim it though

the golden question is, how much is your side mirror

I dont think its covered, and anyhow repair costs only around RM300 unless your car is BMW or better...
Its not worth it to claim your own insurance because NCD would be gone (probably worth around RM700/year)..

Unless your insurance is new no NCD yet then go for it

why ur side mirror was hit by a motorcycle? did u positioned your car wrongly..

stuck in jam la bro.

my side mirror got occasionally kena bumped by motorcylist zig-zaging their way out. scratch abit but no damage.

not worth it to claim insurance. NCD gone reset.

U can curse the bike rider in your heart. Really hate those silly bikers. Those irresponsible 1.
There was once when i was stuck in jam, a bike bang his front wheel on my steel side step when doing zig zag. Luckily, it's steel side step, no damage. XD.
Some scratches on body also happened before. So, just curse them will do.

cannot blame motorcyclist also, sometime in traffic jam, car driver simply put the car too closed each other, too near in the middle of the road

Responsible motorcyclist will choose another way, o opt not to go through if vehicles are too close together.

Those irresponsible 1 will squeeze through without taking care of the vehicles. Do u want to hv your car scratched, or side mirror bent by those ppl, and not blaming them? Think.

I ride bike to work and drive car to work also... in traffic jam, i always avoid drive near center line, drive center on the lane, when change lane, always see no bike near to me, people never ride bike are always blame motorcyclist sure! try ride bike in jam, then u know.

u kena bang at where? subang jaya?

Dude... what those motorcyclist is doing is called Lane-Splitting/Filtering ... which is illegal in certain part of the world.... so why cannot blame them? They are basically sayign their time is MORE important that car driver's time....

Ya sometimes car not at the center of the line, I don't know whether they are blind or having problem with their eyes?

Left lane car aligned to the right, right lane car alight to the left? Is the driver of the left lane car trying to kiss the right lane car passenger? What the f man!

If they stay right in the middle center of their lane this thing won't happen unless the bikers really stupid.

And when we bang their mirror, they curse us? Curse yourself first for being an ******* and please align your head and eyes properly next time, Ha ha ha!

not like that, just give away for motorcyclist, not because you pay more roadtax, you can conquer the road.. just be tolerant

Dude, if you want every bike stop doing that and stay in the lane, if today your traveling time is 30 minutes, you can expect it to become 1 hour because bike can't do this lane-splittine/filtering anymore. Please think of others as well. Don't be so self centered ignorant xxxx......I drive as well, when I saw them at the middle and I see myself not aligned properly, I move abit to so they can pass through. They can save their time, and I don't want them hitting my side mirror as well. I sometimes even see BMW or Mercedes flipping their mirror so that bikers can pass through. Even rich fella can think of other motorist, why can't you?

Bikes not suppose to cilok. They suppose to occupy the same lane as cars. Next time, drive a bigger car like a pickup truck. If they bang, sure pain for few days. Or reinforce the side mirror with steel plates like armoured truck. 1 bang sure pengsan.

What's rich or not rich got to do with anything?

I ride.. a CBR... and most of my riding buddies think those 99% of the kapcai riders like got appointment in hell for the way they ride...

Oh ya.. sorry if I dont drive around centered on giving 100% priority to kapcai weaving aorudn the roads .... if I dont ride liek that, I dont give stupid excuses to peopel who ride liek that.

Unless they drive waaay too irresponsible I don't mind giving way to bikers. But why must they do that at such speeds? Others drove past me standing in the same position, but they didn't bang my car. Is their time worth so much that they risk others property and their own lifes?

The mirror isn't painted, but the plastic casing is broken.

Thanks for the info on insurance, not worth it then...

Those Mercedes and BMW drivers are just scared something happens to their cars... and they just have to push a button to fold in their mirrors. Also that way they have no clue what is happening around them, so they can't be careful if someone tries to squeeze through...

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Dec 5 2011, 07:13 PM

Like you say, they are irresponsible. Also, very self centered.

those bikers have no business weaving in and out of traffic....... one hit me once in a traffic jam and just rode away..... really feel like winding down my window and spitting at those a55holes as they weave past me..... don't get me wrong, i used to ride too...... but not like that......

I pay RM350 road tax for my bike yearly - can I flex my ego? Even if I choose to flex it, whats the point correct - it is not like I am going to get some VIP golden treatment.

I strongly believe both drivers & riders have to be more considerate and prudent when it comes to using the public roads.

800cc and above superbike spotted

I drive and ride also, most of them i ride since it's easier to find parking in my Uni, and can avoid toll too..student where got money one

In 2 years time that I've ride a bike, only once I hit a car side mirror, a grey Kelisa in front traffic light Jalan Gasing. That was about a month after i first rode a bike. I instantly stop after hitting the Kelisa, look at the driver, nod a bit and put up my hand making sorry sign, and then off me go..didn't know if the driver cursed me inside the car but i did show my apologies. After that I always flip my side mirror when lane splitting to avoid hitting other cars.

normally if there's not enuff space to squeeze around I will stop and wait, but most of the cars will divert a bit to give space. I'll put my hand up saying thanks and squeeze away. If those kapcai riders would be more considerate i don't think there will be a problem because they always zig zagging like crazy...me as a rider also didn't understand..even when traffic jam also got kapcai passing through super fast..

My Kancil side mirror also has been hit few times by motorists before, and i feel like wanna hit them from behind everytime that happens

R u sure most, feels like 50% chance only, sometimes i stop at the middle coz i dont want to hit their side mirror, and they dont even give a damn to move abit. Both of the driver refused. Haih. If i hit their side mirror, they'll blame me.

DAMN! a kapcai rider bang my estima. I was at the left lane with signal on while waiting traffic light. The bugger come from left and want to go straight. Bang-ed my car and run away. Damn have to pay myself to repair the dent on the rear body. Happened yesterday nite.

This post has been edited by hkh_88: Dec 5 2011, 08:03 PM

Car drivers can be just as bad, for example when they pretend to just come from the petrol station or that they are just entering the highway to skip a few cars, thus causing even more traffic jams...

Once some bikers were racing (!) through a traffic jam, one almost crashed. Unfortunately he wasn't hurt. Really mad at them, if they want to race find a racetrack or some deserted road, cars are not appropriate obstacles.

well it is most of them when i ride..because i rarely ride in traffice will find highway if possible, much more comfortable
anyway yes there are some of the drivers that didn't bother to give way..wat to do wait only maa..few times got rxz ram2 behind me because i stop and wait lo

U can't judge all bikers as bad due to some bad apples. I met one who bang my side mirror during a traffic light. The guy hold up his hand apologetically, and i wave back, no harm done. But i met an idiot, who wore all black shirt during nighttime, no lights, and have the audacity to drive at the middle of the road and even honk at me when i cut in front of him. *******.

Yeah, of course. Btw. I also meant kapcais, I don't remember any of the bigger bikes drive as reckless as those tiny ones (more nimble I guess).

I just wish they'd drive slower, then everything'd be fine. If it's a bit too narrow I can make way if possible, if not, sorry then. But violently pushing through? If they are racing I kinda have the wish to just get into their way, force em to crash. Luckily I can control my temper, lol.

Someone cursed me cause I had to change lane and so was all over the place (car in front...). I made way behind me so they could get through, but he picked the wrong lane... so he was mad at me. WTF?

Btw. it happened on Tebrau Highway.

This is the damaged mirror...


This post has been edited by kadajawi: Dec 5 2011, 09:49 PM

If there's ample space to cilok, go ahead cuz I wont move shit. You calar my side mirror, I blame you only.

my car last time also kena!!!! That silly motorcyclist bump into my rear lamp, break the whole thing, then lari away. Curse him to death!!!

Why can't they just fall of their kapcai and hurt themselves when they touch a car? No wonder they think they are invincible... they can even run away!

I had my mirrors scraped many times already in the past when i own my 130Y.

The worst was some motocyclist scraped and nudge my rear bumper AND my front bumper. What the hell????? My car not eating the middle line but the other car on the right was eating more to the middle line.

So who to blame? The other car and the motocyclist but still i feel like whacking the motocyclist more but cannot chase him because stuck in a jam. Plus i told my self, sucks to be that motocyclist because have to endure CO2, CO, H2O and loads of vitamin D while i am enjoying myself in a cool environment with music.

Patients lorrr.

At least your cursing on traffic jam is reduced because of them.Stop complaining nuisance on the biker.
Ride one then only you know.Sometimes the cager are lazy ass to give attention to them even when they are suppose to do so.

I got also fot my NSX/Z33/Viva side mirror hit by them but for me it just a small matter,& the important thing they do not lose balance after certain thing hit them.I know it cost quite a $$$ for some but atleast the cager should be grateful to had all the comfort that they never had.

I also a biker & I dont bullshit since today stupid MOFO(turks people...not a malaysian I supposed) are suddenly change direction even after my lane turned green & then I hitted them in high speed but luckily not sustain any fatal accident,but even it was their own fault,they still wanted to b****in around which made me want to report to policeman nearby.Only after that his wife confronted me & saying all the apologize which I accepted with some payment for me to repair my bike front end.

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Added on December 6, 2011, 1:30 amYup,I was same side with MeToo...but still I do consider the biker that filtering through traffic jam as my main priority.
Because still no use to block them & creating much more standing time on traffic jam which I hate so much....

This post has been edited by Cyprid Dark ii: Dec 6 2011, 01:30 AM

I don't mind people like you filtering through traffic, it's just the speed at which some do it. You constantly have to watch if there is someone coming from behind, while watching if someone is trying to cut into your lane, while watching for the one in front who might have to brake hard too (hell, even driving 180 on the Autobahn with medium traffic and everyone going a different speed is less stressful than stop and go in Malaysia).

And the same thing goes to the bikers, who also have to be very careful. So do it at reasonable speeds and nothing (hopefully) will happen. Not to you, not to the others. What's the rush? You'll get there eventually.

I'm not perfectly sure, but IIRC the other drivers that got past safely drove slower (still too fast) than the one who hit me. Couldn't even look for his number plate, didn't even really see him (and I was not moving).

Anyway, sorry to hear what happened to you. You didn't even get any compensation for the pain/injuries? Bikers have to be super careful because they are the weakest person on the road, especially since most don't wear good protective suits (expensive, uncomfortable, ...). Even if your helmet protects you during a crash you will be hurt badly. That's why I can't understand why some drive as they do. I won't get hurt if they crash into me, even if it's my fault (of course I try to avoid that, but sometimes you just don't see someone, or make a mistake, ...). It just costs me some money.

Stop complaining? No way. I will continue to do so cuz there's just too many silly irresponsible bikers around. I don't want to give example of those dangerous acts. Road user should know.

And of course, those really nice biker, i do respect them.

yeah, i understand TS's anger. those shortlifed motorist just simply fxxking deserved to go dxx.

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Added on December 6, 2011, 7:07 amit should not even have bike in the first bike. those non 3rd world country isn't any bike at all.

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Added on December 6, 2011, 7:19 amexactly such a lxw clxss vehicle should have been eliminated long away.

This post has been edited by westlife: Dec 6 2011, 07:19 AM

Some car drivers also no brain one. Mostly women. Even in the middle of packed traffic jam also wanna switch lane. For what? All the lane also same, STUCK but u still insist in changing lane. Maybe other lane got air cond. Not all but some of them. The worst driver is when they switching lane on 3 lane hiways, from the most left they go straight to most right without monitoring what come towards them.

Men also do that. Sometimes people need to change lane to get to the exit, and sometimes there's a faster lane. You shouldn't do it of course, but sometimes i do too. It wouldn't be an issue though if bikers would drive at reasonable speeds.

@westlife: To be honest there are bikes on the highway. In Germany IIRC only vehicles that can go 70 km/h or more are allowed on the Autobahn, and kapcais are limited to less than that. So you might see some superbike going 200+ km/h, some tourers, etc. They do take one lane though and do not squeeze through... they just don't behave like .... . Kapcai riders in general behave better there.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Dec 6 2011, 12:14 PM

They like to cilok to the front during red light, when green light they accelerate ride slow.

it might be me banging your side mirror, fools.

wat u gon do

I always slap cars side mirror.. i had my glove on.. so it doesn't hurt.. why I did it?? many reason

In traffic jam.. some drivers seems like to position their car right on the line.. us riders.. well let's just say.. I cant afford to wait like cars.. cos bike is different.. mine can get overheat just by waiting... no clean air.. even if it is liquid cooled.. not enough..

so.. nasib la kene ketuk.. one more.. dont like to see drivers using the emergency lane.. us bikes dont have a proper lane.. (big and wide enough.. those on federal is shitty.. imagine riding an R1.. U'll stuck with 2nd and 1st gear only)

now even cars want to use the emergency lane.. so if kene sepak.. ur doors might dent.. nasib la..

So u slap their car, they let go of the brake swerve out and knock you off yoru bike...... also nasib lah ya broooo

This post has been edited by MeToo: Mar 9 2012, 04:05 PM

superbike pwned by auntie driving kancil.

really,....my fren wanna avoid a funny driving kancil, so he was laying on the floor....nothing serious though. just calar calar on his bike frame.

usually its in the jam la.. cars barely moving.. hahaha.. I wouldn't worry about being hit..

Knocking ppl's car side mirror is just bad move. Lousy mentality. I believe in karma. Your bike overheat is your problem. Pls don't blame other road user for blocking public road especially during traffic jam.

This post has been edited by ahsam1212: Mar 9 2012, 05:49 PM

Yeap i agree to that, there's no need to slap/knock other cars side mirror..
If i'm stuck in a jam and my bike temperature start to rise i switch it off and wait till traffice moves..

But about the emergency lane i have to agree, it annoys me to have cars in front of me when i'm in the emergency lane..apa laa

Cars don't belong onto the emergency lane, unless they broke down. Simple as that. So yea, slap em if you want. But otherwise... I do try to give way, but could you bikers just agree to one side? Want to slip through on the left, on the right... pick a side and it'll be easier to make way too.

pretty much this

My side mirrors kena hit by cars, not bikes. The 1st time, it was coz somebody thought his Waja could fit in his newly created lane but he failed. The 2nd was a woman who did not know how to park, her tyres were on the yellow line and my side mirrors were touching hers already and she went to park in further...in the end, she couldn't come out from the driver's door and had to use the passenger's door instead. Just repark man!

Please treat bikers with repect.. I ride everyday to work because i cannot stand the jam.. I can afford to use car if i want to but i stick to bike.. I do drive cars sometimes though.. I treat car drivers with respect.. Not all riders are irresponsible.. You cannot have negative thoughts on them all like that just because some of them hit your side mirror..

Riders will never hit your side mirror if you give them enough space to slip through.. Why would they intentionally looking for trouble by hitting you side mirror if they have enough space to slip through?

When i drive a car.. I always stick to the center of the road.. When i want to change lane.. I will look at the side mirror to make sure theres no bike passing through.. Turn my signal and change lanes.. This way you can help the bikers and help yourself..

In my opinion most of the drivers who does not stick to the center of the road and get their side mirrors hit by bikers are somebody who never ride a bike in traffic jam before.. So they dont know how hard it is to maneuver in this condition..

Anyway.. I dont condone any riders that dont apologize when they hit side mirrors and what not.. But please dont show disrespect by saying things like they are willing to risk their life or they have appointment in hell or some sort of things like that.. We all love our life and loved ones.. But sometimes we just have our own preferences..

Please imagine if all the bike riders in KL suddenly change their mind and decided to use cars instead.. I dont think the existing road can handle it.. The traffic will become like hell and you guys can never reach your destination on time.. So please show some appreciation and respect..

Cheers..

I ride bike to work as well everyday but I use ER6N with a very big box and for sure it is an issue with traffic jam but...... I have never hit on any car side mirror before. I have seen kapcai riding like otw to hell, when I c such bikes, I will slow down in the middle of the traffic n force them to slow down as well or change lane

I do face issues where drivers change lane without giving signal light and it is during stand still traffic jam which places the car in the middle of the lane. For me, I would just stop and wait for the driver to move the car. Some drivers are very considerate when they saw me coming, they will move back to their lane.

Not all bikers are bad and not all drivers are bad but everyday is lke a war whenever i ride back and forth from work.

Btw, i do have car as well and i understand the feeling of being stuck in the jam but plz be considerate on the road to other road users.

And most importantly.... PLZ DO NOT USE EMERGENCY LANE!!! IT IS BLOODY DANGEROUS FOR OTHER ROAD USERS!! I have seen cars drive very fast in emergency lane and then did an emergency brake stunt coz could not pass. WTH!! I WILL ALWAYS HORN AND SCOLD DRIVERS WHO USES EMERGENCY LANE!!!

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