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mysa_strato
post Dec 4 2011, 09:39 PM

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it is legal so its ok no butthurt
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:41 PM

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what's wrong with saying 'salam sejahtera ke atas kamu juga' to another?
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ Dec 4 2011, 09:41 PM)
what's wrong with saying 'salam sejahtera ke atas kamu juga' to another?
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some body already explain in previous page
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:44 PM

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nvm..

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post Dec 4 2011, 09:47 PM

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gua salah, lu mai kong....
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Augus7 @ Dec 4 2011, 07:14 PM)
Just wondering, Im a non muslim and why im treated differently when i replied to their greetings
When i was greeted by iranians (or arabs) with this and i replied back waleikum-salam. There seem to be no problem
However, sometimes when i replied waleikum-salam,  malays or malaysian muslims give me certain stares like WTF? U playing with that word?

Seriously, my question is it illegal to do so?
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There is nothing wrong. It just that maybe the muslim who give u bad looks when u reply the greeting didn't know the true meanings of the greeting itself.

Assalamualaikum = Peace be with you
Wa'alaikumsalam = And unto you peace

See? actually the above greeting is not only special for Muslim. Its applicable to all nations or religions. It just that its in different language.
Daniel.N.Amel
post Dec 4 2011, 09:49 PM

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Its not wrong for a non muslim to say salam to a muslim. Muslims have to reply to that. Albeit if a muslim wanna greet a non muslim, its preferable to use other phrase even though the ruling isn't haram to say salam.

If you are very particular with language, then do this. In the sense of linguistic, due to the "Al / As" referring to a Proper Noun which in this case As-Salam refers to the name of God, then omit the As / Al. Then you will have "peace be upon you" and not "Peace be upon you"

Although for me I don't see anything wrong with using As-Salam as a Proper Noun, because when I say that to a non-muslim, I can think of it as "may God be with you and open up your heart to Islam".

Thats just my 2cents though.
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:50 PM

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isnt assalamualaikum = salam sejahtera..
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel.N.Amel @ Dec 4 2011, 09:49 PM)
Its not wrong for a non muslim to say salam to a muslim. Muslims have to reply to that. Albeit if a muslim wanna greet a non muslim, its preferable to use other phrase even though the ruling isn't haram to say salam.

If you are very particular with language, then do this. In the sense of linguistic, due to the "Al / As" referring to a Proper Noun which in this case As-Salam refers to the name of God, then omit the As / Al. Then you will have "peace be upon you" and not "Peace be upon you"

Although for me I don't see anything wrong with using As-Salam as a Proper Noun, because when I say that to a non-muslim, I can think of it as "may God be with you and open up your heart to Islam".

Thats just my 2cents though.
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then if we can use it, but we said it salamualaikum, right?

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post Dec 4 2011, 09:51 PM

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My christian chinese boss always greet his fellow muslim friend with assalamualaikim, and I heard his muslim friend replied with waalaikumussalam.

Me as a muslim didn't feel weird with that.
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QUOTE(MuhammadFird @ Dec 4 2011, 09:50 PM)
isnt assalamualaikum = salam sejahtera..
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Well.. kinda.. but the right translation is "Peace be with you"
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(MuhammadFird @ Dec 4 2011, 09:51 PM)
then if we can use it, we say it salamualaikum, right?
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(MuhammadFird @ Dec 4 2011, 09:51 PM)
then if we can use it, but we said it salamualaikum, right?
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Its up to you. Whether you want to use As-Salam or Salam in the beginning. See the arguments, then decide. For me, I'm ok with either two, even if using As-Salam to the non muslims.


QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Dec 4 2011, 09:51 PM)
My christian chinese boss always greet his fellow muslim friend with assalamualaikim, and I heard his muslim friend replied with waalaikumussalam.

Me as a muslim didn't feel weird with that.
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Good for you thumbup.gif Why bother with things like this if it doesn't involve our aqidah and tawhid, unless you still want to stand on the linguistic side of As-Salam.
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Augus7 @ Dec 4 2011, 07:14 PM)
Just wondering, Im a non muslim and why im treated differently when i replied to their greetings
When i was greeted by iranians (or arabs) with this and i replied back waleikum-salam. There seem to be no problem
However, sometimes when i replied waleikum-salam,  malays or malaysian muslims give me certain stares like WTF? U playing with that word?

Seriously, my question is it illegal to do so?
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it's about the culture thingy. so yeah if you are within arabs/iran/sand *, go ahead speak arabs as you wish

but if you among malays, please dont. dont simply assume are all the same. china people langgar two year old girl and thinks that is ok just to drive away and didnt stop, so can i assume all chinese in malaysia is the same as them too?
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post Dec 4 2011, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(bukan.provokasi @ Dec 4 2011, 09:59 PM)
show me where in the quran mentions anything about "as-salamu alaikum". in the quran it is either "salamun alaikum" or "salam" only. Allah forbids addition and invention in religion. It is called Bid'ah.

Dan mereka membuatkan sebahagian daripada apa yang Kami merezekikan mereka kepada apa yang mereka tidak tahu. Demi Allah, kamu akan ditanya mengenai apa yang kamu mengada-adakan Q16:56

And they assign to what they do not know a portion of that which We have provided them. By Allah , you will surely be questioned about what you used to invent. Q16:56
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yeah this is coming from an anti hadis follower.


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post Dec 4 2011, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(bukan.provokasi @ Dec 4 2011, 09:59 PM)
show me where in the quran mentions anything about "as-salamu alaikum". in the quran it is either "salamun alaikum" or "salam" only. Allah forbids addition and invention in religion. It is called Bid'ah.
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That is because you follow a religion that has only the al-Qur'an as the guidance, whereas majority of Muslims follow the Sunnah on top of that.
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post Dec 4 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(bukan.provokasi @ Dec 4 2011, 10:15 PM)
These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what Hadith after Allah and His verses will they believe? Q45:6
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(This is going offtopic.)

And what makes you think that particular word in that verse refers to the Hadith that's collected by Muslim scholars?
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post Dec 4 2011, 10:26 PM

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the proper salam is "assalamualaikum-warahmatullah-wabarakatuh" means "salam sejahtera ke atas kamu, semoga Alllah merahmati dan memberkati kamu."

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post Dec 4 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Dec 4 2011, 08:17 PM)
we can accept it...
just alot freak cant because their is weirdo..
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