Just wondering, Im a non muslim and why im treated differently when i replied to their greetings
When i was greeted by iranians (or arabs) with this and i replied back waleikum-salam. There seem to be no problem
However, sometimes when i replied waleikum-salam, malays or malaysian muslims give me certain stares like WTF? U playing with that word?

Seriously, my question is it illegal to do so?

I think that word is common used in arab.

we can accept it...
just some freak cant because their is weirdo..

This post has been edited by apisfires: Dec 4 2011, 07:17 PM

Some Malaysians are oversensitive because anything in arabic equals to God status



This post has been edited by Sophiera: Dec 4 2011, 07:18 PM

Nahhh.... Ignore them....sometimes they have madness to exclusivity

i hav weird look if i greet them salam..... n sometimes if i only greet salam n dun greet good morning/evening/ they look like i do wrong

no its okay for you reply.
but that guy who give you salam got screwed up Penidikan islam when he was at school.

because i feel weird if i don reply back a greeting, i just greet them back with that. i guess its not wrong right?

yes you can reply, because the word it'self in arabic language, nothing to do with islam

so those malaysian muslim that mum their mouth, they are an ignorant twat

ya. not wrong.

dabel pasta, sorry

This post has been edited by ichi_24: Dec 4 2011, 07:23 PM

actually seldom local muslims directly salam me face to face. mostly on phone.
but imagine a situation here. u're in a lecture hall then lecturer comes in and greet just that and not good morning or anything. just that word. of coz sometimes my mouth auto blurt out the word.

its okay la no prob

RTM selalu cakap assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera
Sama macam Good morning dan selamat pagi.. waaaadaaapaaaakk happen in malaysia, stupid RTM, from that day.. i langgan astro.. dun wan watch rtm and tv3

lain padang lain lalang

orang melayu muslim ni pelik sikit.

Nothing wrong. It just an Arabic word.

let those "jumud" people with their lives. you just follow things that you feel right...

It's okay..... no prob for muslim/not-muslim to use it~

Cheers to you TS~

9. Berhubung dengan keharusan menjawab salam orang bukan Islam yang tergolong dalam kafir zimmi, kita ingin bertanyakan kepada Dr Mohd Asri apakah tafsiran beliau terhadap kafir zimmi dan kafir harbi serta apakah ciri-ciri mereka yang sebenarnya? Berdasarkan maksud surah Mumtahanah ayat 8-9 di atas dan surah Ali Imran ayat 28, non-muslim zimmi sekurang-kurangnya perlu memenuhi ciri-ciri berikut:-

(a) Orang non-muslim yang tinggal di negara Islam di atas kebenaran pemerintah Islam,

(b) non-muslim yang tidak terlibat secara langsung dalam urusan politik kerajaan Islam, dan

© non-muslim yang tunduk dan patuh di bawah sistem perundangan kerajaan Islam

Mereka dikenali dengan non-muslim zimmi kerana bersetuju membayar jizyah kepada negara Islam yang memelihara dan melindungi kehidupan, kehormatan dan harta benda mereka. Persoalannya, apakah orang bukan Islam di negara ini menepati ciri-ciri tersebut? Kita sedia maklum, mereka terlibat secara langsung dalam urusan pemerintahan dan mempunyai hak yang sama seperti orang Islam dalam merebut kuasa politik. Berdasarkan perlembagaan, mereka juga boleh memerintah dan boleh menjadi ketua negara. Mungkin ada yang beralasan mereka tidak semua seperti itu, tetapi saya katakan mereka semuanya sama dari sudut perundangan dan di dalam menuntut hak.

Janganlah kerana satu atau dua peristiwa apabila kita menjawab salam bukan Islam menyebabkan orang bukan Islam itu menganut Islam maka kita terus meninggalkan nas-nas yang jelas wujudnya larangan tersebut semata-mata di atas alasan mahu melihat imej Islam lebih cantik. Sebenarnya masih banyak lagi cara lain yang boleh kita berikan penghormatan kepada mereka sebagai ganti ucapan salam itu. Bukankah bahasa ini luas?


http://nasbunnuraini.wordpress.com/2007/04...da-bukan-islam/

Ulama berbeza pendapat dalam menyelusuri fiqh (kefahaman) hadis ini. Kebanyakan mereka memutuskan bahawa haram memulakan ucapan salam kepada mereka. Sebahagian pula berkata ianya tidak haram tetapi makruh.

Seorang fuqaha iaitu Abu Sa`ad berpendapat, sekiranya seorang muslim ingin memberi ucapan hormat kepada bukan Islam dia boleh melakukannya dengan lafaz yang lain daripada lafaz salam. Contohnya dengan menyebut: (هداك الله ) maksudnya moga Allah memberi hidayah kepada kamu atau (أنعم الله صباحك) maksudnya moga Allah memberi anugerah di waktu pagimu ini. Imam Nawawi menyetujui pendapat ini tetapi dengan tambahan: sekiranya ianya diperlu. Antara contoh ucapannya bagi Imam Nawawi ialah ucapan selamat pagi, pagi yang bahagia, pagi yang baik, moga Allah kurniakan kamu dengan kebahagian di waktu pagi, atau nikmat di waktu pagi dan seumpamanya. Sekiranya tidak perlu maka pilihannya ialah jangan mengucapkan apa-apa. (Nawawi, al-Azkar, Dar al-Khayr, hlm. 311)

http://halaqah.net/v10/index.php?topic=1747.0

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Ketua negara?

Gua Salah Lu Mai Kong.

It's seriously no problem, in fact, i'll be very impressed if you do that, but i usually stick with Hi tho.

Some of them don't really have non muslims that do that or just unaware that it's actually an arabic word that everybody can use

just an arabic language..Msian radicals make it as if its a 'holy' word

u're doing things right

in malaysia, everything is retarded

Assalamualaikum mean peace be upon to you
and wa'alaikummussalam mean peace be upon to you too ..
so why not?? it just malaysian short minded?

Most foreign Muslims expect a reply when they greet you with the pthrase, but most Malaysian Muslims will look aghast if you reply.

im okay, u can greet me with that..

For learned Muslims, this phrase is very connected with Islam. They are taught the proper etiquette regarding the salām, and among them are rules regarding non-muslims:
1) One should not initiate the salām towards non-muslims, and
2) If greeted with salām from non-muslims, the answer should be "wa alaykum" (and upon you too).
Among the reasons I learned is: because as-Salām is one of the names of God Almighty, you shall not invoke his holy name upon a non-believer.

maybe Iranian is shiite and not sunni, they take these greetings less seriously.

this
not wrong for u to answer
just that the muslim,is advised not to greet u with salam first

and if u give salam,the answe shud be like above

bottom line,u not guilty

Its okay, its just language. Arabic ^^

those people around you are shocked with your ability to speak in arab. LOL!!!

its okay. those stare weird at you maybe lack of knowledge about islam

Meleis are higher class muslims than the arabs... hence the WTF you got everytime you answer salam...

phail

we can see how universal their God's love is based on the universal comments here. memang winrar in every sense of the word..

i mean how wishing peace to someone can be divided into grades

This post has been edited by hotjake: Dec 4 2011, 09:31 PM

You dont know us... We meleis are holier breed of muslims you know...

There is only two rules :

1 ) Muslim cannot bagi salam to non muslim

2 ) Muslim must reply if the non muslim give salam first

Not many here in /k/ are learned since most of their statement show how shallow their knowledge of Islam and they don't even realise that.

being liberal for the sake of attention.

dum dum dee dee dum.

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it is legal so its ok no butthurt

what's wrong with saying 'salam sejahtera ke atas kamu juga' to another?

some body already explain in previous page

nvm..

This post has been edited by Azer96: Dec 4 2011, 09:45 PM

gua salah, lu mai kong....

There is nothing wrong. It just that maybe the muslim who give u bad looks when u reply the greeting didn't know the true meanings of the greeting itself.

Assalamualaikum = Peace be with you
Wa'alaikumsalam = And unto you peace

See? actually the above greeting is not only special for Muslim. Its applicable to all nations or religions. It just that its in different language.

Its not wrong for a non muslim to say salam to a muslim. Muslims have to reply to that. Albeit if a muslim wanna greet a non muslim, its preferable to use other phrase even though the ruling isn't haram to say salam.

If you are very particular with language, then do this. In the sense of linguistic, due to the "Al / As" referring to a Proper Noun which in this case As-Salam refers to the name of God, then omit the As / Al. Then you will have "peace be upon you" and not "Peace be upon you"

Although for me I don't see anything wrong with using As-Salam as a Proper Noun, because when I say that to a non-muslim, I can think of it as "may God be with you and open up your heart to Islam".

Thats just my 2cents though.

isnt assalamualaikum = salam sejahtera..

then if we can use it, but we said it salamualaikum, right?

My christian chinese boss always greet his fellow muslim friend with assalamualaikim, and I heard his muslim friend replied with waalaikumussalam.

Me as a muslim didn't feel weird with that.

Well.. kinda.. but the right translation is "Peace be with you"

Its up to you. Whether you want to use As-Salam or Salam in the beginning. See the arguments, then decide. For me, I'm ok with either two, even if using As-Salam to the non muslims.


Good for you Why bother with things like this if it doesn't involve our aqidah and tawhid, unless you still want to stand on the linguistic side of As-Salam.

it's about the culture thingy. so yeah if you are within arabs/iran/sand *, go ahead speak arabs as you wish

but if you among malays, please dont. dont simply assume are all the same. china people langgar two year old girl and thinks that is ok just to drive away and didnt stop, so can i assume all chinese in malaysia is the same as them too?

yeah this is coming from an anti hadis follower.

That is because you follow a religion that has only the al-Qur'an as the guidance, whereas majority of Muslims follow the Sunnah on top of that.

(This is going offtopic.)

And what makes you think that particular word in that verse refers to the Hadith that's collected by Muslim scholars?

the proper salam is "assalamualaikum-warahmatullah-wabarakatuh" means "salam sejahtera ke atas kamu, semoga Alllah merahmati dan memberkati kamu."

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