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femgoo2005
post Jul 9 2012, 08:50 AM

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Hi to all Betta sifu(s), need to ask few question. I'm new to betta rearing. I have a regular Betta fish i put it together with Panda Cory, the Betta kacau Panda abit on the 1st day and thats all, i guessed it just wanna check the fella out. I standby a small pvc pipe about 3/4 inch in diameter 5cm length for Cory hiding just incase but turned out that after the 3rd day my Betta went hiding inside hmm.gif. When i went near the tank, Betta faster came out from the pipe swimming on my direction macam kenal i. Is this a typical behavior of Betta?
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post Jul 9 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Jul 9 2012, 12:39 PM)
Yes it's normal for an aggressive male to charge forward when they see us.
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Haa ic and i thought why he went hiding inside the pipe that was meant for panda cory. Guess i was over thinking then haha
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post Jul 19 2012, 09:54 PM

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Hi all Betta sifu(s),
I want to ask something odd. I owned a veil tail Betta for like one month already. This 2 days he was like staying very still at one position face facing upwards, tail down. He still breathing lah but arh he can stay like that for like 15 minutes long. When i went near him he move around but after awhile he went back this position blink.gif . Is something wrong with him arh?
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(edmund90 @ Jul 20 2012, 04:18 AM)
did u do any water change? or maybe ur vt is moody? or old liao...
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It was Mon i did water changed, he seemed happy that time. His body size looked to me very matured or maybe you called it old lah. I put female at the same tank wif him wif transparent divider arh, very active last week, bubbling everyday but these 2 days like emo macam. Never seen fish so sad before lah. Female seemed fine though just mind her own business dun even dare to go near him. Do you think he got sickness ka Edmund?
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 20 2012, 11:00 AM)
stress already la..

got a nekkid woman in front of you but can do nothing
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haha like that also can. No place to put female, might aswell put there 1st lah let him active lah. If he betul betul sick arh i must remove the female liao. Not sure yet still observe. Water change only 20% also like that. Maybe he makan semut. Got afew ants crawling near by.
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(kayote @ Jul 20 2012, 12:02 PM)
mine also like this, morning still active but at night saw him floating face upwards. and next day, he gone to betta paradise. i gave him 3-4 bloodworms during the morning, maybe that was the reason he died(?), for my case lah. or maybe mine too old already, time to say bye bye world.
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Huh? Really arh Kayote? Haizzz... maybe is the age lah, i kinda doubt it also. sad.gif Kesian this poor fella, i just wonder how long oredi he had been in the LFS and from previous owner.
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(edmund90 @ Jul 20 2012, 08:44 PM)
i think ur male flare too much with the female, flare till too stress liao.. dont let it see another fish so often and long duraton. only put male and female together if u wan to breed/spawn them..
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huh? ini macam? no wonder lah. It's impossible to breed lah the size of that female smaller than his size by twice, it will result in death female. But arh... ya i think you are right maybe he flare too much. I oredi put the female in different container liao biggrin.gif . He still dunno the female gone liao macam tidur. Sometimes i need to ketuk the tank abit only he will wake abit like 'oh, my owner is here oredi' blink.gif
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post Jul 21 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(edmund90 @ Jul 21 2012, 05:12 AM)
self masturbat too much liao... no more energy... lol  rclxub.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif  rolleyes.gif
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aiyak! like that if he suddenly gone to heaven one day due to this cause i think he die happily also laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2012, 10:32 PM

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To all sifus here, i need to ask something from your expertise pertaining Betta eggs. I haven't try any breeding before but past 2 days has been really stress. The question goes :
1) Do you think Papa Betta will still guard the eggs if the eggs were rotten?
2) If after 48 hours the eggs didn't hatch, does it mean that the eggs rotten?
3) After 36 hours, how an healthy eggs looks like? Does it still appeared like white spot in the bubble nest?

Thank you for reading
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post Aug 19 2012, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(one0one @ Aug 18 2012, 12:01 PM)
Hi femgoo2005, I am not a sifu level biggrin.gif.. but already made a few spawning, I try to answer your question..

1) & 2) He will eat any unfertilized eggs (to avoid fungus growing, maybe)
3) After 36 hours most already hatch. You can see tiny black dot dot around the bubble nest.

Don't stress yourself, just relax & enjoy
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Hi oneOone, thank you so much for replying. I oredi doubt the eggs i just need confirmation because my tank water hasn't been change for like 10days when i asked this question and i over fed the papa Betta. Anyway they remain white dots even after 48hours so i dun wan risk the papa health oredi i changed water yesterday. Today he is so happy and active again, previous few days was like very mellow like that. Maybe give it another month i'll try again.

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post Aug 23 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(mengdez @ Aug 22 2012, 10:23 PM)
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Trying out my new camera.  tongue.gif
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That is one real beauty mengdez, is it hmpk gold platinum? Do you have any beautiful hm female up for sale?
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post Aug 23 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(mengdez @ Aug 23 2012, 08:43 PM)
Kind of Gold Dragon.

Only breed HMPK.
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cool Gold Dragon. Thanks mengdez.


Added on August 23, 2012, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(one0one @ Aug 23 2012, 09:04 PM)
Try google how to breed betta or youtube. But, um.. maybe you need to separate them first and condition them for breeding. I use styrofoam & besen to spawn them ...
Wah! Gold Dragon! Nice.
Some will eat, some wont eat the egg yolk. Beside bbs, can give microworm (I only use as back up for BBS) or infusorian (for newly born, after free swimming). Also can give daphnia if you know where to find la..
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one0one how long the fries can eat infusorian? Is 2 weeks enuf? But i think they grow slower unless they makan live stock like microworms & bbs.

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post Aug 24 2012, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(one0one @ Aug 24 2012, 01:15 AM)
I just straight give microworm for 1 week then change to bbs. I never try giving infusorian to the fries, only put into my daphnia culture.
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ic wow all your fries must be chubby & cute. I read somewhere those that keep strong betta generation normally just let them live in small pond, those fries eat whatever that available to them, most of the time infusorian or insect. The stronger ones only survife. Maybe thats the way of betta live in wild.


Added on August 24, 2012, 10:12 am
QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Aug 24 2012, 02:57 AM)
I just give bbs and daphnia for free swin fries...why dont you try vinegar eel..those eel still can swim after you put them in tank..i have those culture but never use it..leceh than bbs
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yeah i dun like leceh job also beawolf64 haha laugh.gif . Anyway susah to find bbs and daphnia here also. I think i may be possible to culture vinegar ell myself.

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post Aug 24 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Aug 24 2012, 12:42 PM)
Come to puchong,bring your own culture bottle..than i give the vinegar eel starter free lo hehehe..
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Wow beawolf64 so nice of you biggrin.gif . Maybe one day lah. Now belum masa yet haha coz now my betta no bb. Just get ready collect all info i need here and there haha. Appreciate your help so much thumbup.gif
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post Aug 26 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(one0one @ Aug 25 2012, 01:04 AM)
bbs can buy from any fish shop, just ask for bbs/artemia. or can visit betta4u.com, also can order microworm & daphnia there.
my fries cukup2 makan only biggrin.gif ... still new, right now these 2 months old fry only around 0.8 inch - 1 inch average size. hope their growth didnt get stunt. 1st two weeks i did not really take good care of them but miraculously more than 50 survive.
hm ss grade.. not sure what that mean. how much did you buy him?
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Wow ohmy.gif 1st 2 weeks you no jaga them properly also got more than 50 survival, is still quite alot lah, not bad biggrin.gif


Added on August 27, 2012, 11:02 amFemale betta, I can never tell hm / hmpk or pk. Can anyone tell me what kind of female is this pic? The seller also mongchacha when i asked.

http://s1161.photobucket.com/albums/q506/femgoo2005/Female/

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post Sep 7 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Xent @ Sep 5 2012, 03:42 PM)
Simple but helpful question  icon_idea.gif

How often should a Betta flare at each other per day as exercise ?

I've got too many answers from different forum, some even stated doesnt matter even we dont let them dance. But i noticed that they stay active most of the time if we let them flare enough.

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Hmm i dunno others but i just let them flare 5 mins per day only. blink.gif


Added on September 7, 2012, 3:24 pm
QUOTE(zat_90s @ Sep 5 2012, 09:42 PM)
hello guys..new here... i have plakat and it has white spot at the top sirip... it is normal? or it get infected? help me guys.. i take care of it about a year now...
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Maybe the coloration just came out? If he still makan normal and active then there is no worries but to be safe maybe you should find one small dried daun ketapang, wash abit & let it float inside the tank. Your betta would love you for that biggrin.gif .


Added on September 7, 2012, 3:36 pm
QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 7 2012, 12:57 AM)
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Hey guys, my girlfriend's betta fish looks kinda sick so could I ask if anyone knows whats wrong with it? We feed it regularly not too much not too little, we change the water once it becomes too murky.
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Wow i'm not an expert here but it looks like fin rot. My betta also kena before. What i did change 30% water with conditioned water then add a pinch of salt (sorry i dun hv measurement as i do things only agak agak) then add dried daun ketapang let it float in the tank. To ease your little guy i suggest you reduct the level of water so he no need struggle taking air at the top, let it rest much. Only feed if he wants to eat.
I did just that with mine, it took quite sometimes for him to heal. If water became brownish the next day, it is normal because of the daun ketapang macam tea leaf and will aid it's healing process.

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post Sep 9 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 9 2012, 07:37 PM)
thanks bro. where can I get the daun ketapang?
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Okay you try this link below see can view or not
http://abahabror.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/...le-sangkuriang/

If kenot then use google to search for "Daun Ketapang", just remember to search using 'Image' option at google page. You'll get alot picture pertaining this leafs as well as the tree. It is also call Indian Almond Leave (IAL). It grows wildly everywhere surrounding yo if you live in malaysia, you just need to pay attention where ever you go. I know it sounds ridiculous but that's how i learnt LOL laugh.gif .
Where ever i went i just look for Ketapang Trees until now i realize they grew everywhere including along those highway like Kesas or even Federal Highway and also some at the road side on the way back to my house. Learn to reconize the leafs and tree. Tried pick up those that freshly fallen from tree . The way to tell is, the leaf will looks little brownish and 'Still Soft' and very glowing/kilat surface. Those that oredi fallen long ago will be very kering until it easily crack. You'll be expert slowly dun worry, i started from scratch too nod.gif

Good Luck!


Added on September 9, 2012, 10:29 pm
QUOTE(cht5 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
Hi, Guys, .. I visited a acquarium just now .. the taukeh was selling his plakat super red for RM 15.00 .. is that expensive ? and plakat super black .. he ask for RM25.00 ..both fishes are ard 1.5 inches long ... not sure if that guy seen I am newbie and want to cut throat me .. is the price offered reasonable ?
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Hmm i think you'll get a lower price at Jalan Pasar but it really depends on your luck to get a good one there. If you've been there and still no luck finding the one you love then maybe this plakat you saw in this fish shop worth buying. Anyway the most important is there's the connection there when you saw the 1st one that you loved the most, that is the one..no matter how expensive it is.



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post Sep 11 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(nova80 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:06 PM)
Ok...my pretty hamsap pure white HM betta is certified - dead.
Not sure is too late for meds, or the Epsom Salt kill it faster, or my mum go kacau him to change the water after the meds...
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So sorry for your lost. Dropsy symptom very hard to cure i heard.

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post Sep 12 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(cht5 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:19 PM)
Thanks bro.. I didn't get from him .. instead, I got mine from betta shop acquarium in air panas, setapak, slightly more expensive (RM18.00), but at least there are a few for me to choose and compare. I got another female from BSA as well ...so total damage was RM35 .. may be got cut throat a bit, but at least feel comfortable while talking to that guy . .. smile.gif  ... he got a few super red female ..sell for RM20.00 each, the fishes look healthy and strong .. smile.gif
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Oh you're most welcome. Wow congrats, at last you've found the one thumbup.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sillypumpkin2020 @ Sep 12 2012, 05:48 PM)
hiya!
I just bought 2 bettas last week from some random shop I just happen to pass by and decided to buy them.
I enjoy watching them making bubbles so I was randomly reading the forum...
spend a day reading the previous post (reading the whole day) and I wanna thank all of u here coz I really learnt a lot!
TQ!
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I think we all learnt from each other lah, still nothing beats experience laugh.gif . Other than making bubble, the male most of them are good daddy. Really surprised me when i read about betta, its the male that tend the eggs other than female tongue.gif . Kudos to betta, think its similar with seahorse carrying pregnant tummy haha laugh.gif the toughest job done by male. thumbup.gif


Added on September 12, 2012, 11:34 pm
QUOTE(nova80 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:19 PM)
Thanks...
If i have chance, i'll still get my hand on white HM betta. Just think they are the most prettiest fish in the world~

For now, focus on breeding healthy guppies. Aim is full tank of them. Basically no difficult. I just have to feed and wait tongue.gif
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Hmm i think arh... i saw a couple of white ones at the petshop Ikano, there are also a few rose tail around. Remember dun overfed them to prevent planarian worm over crowd your breeding tank, they feed on left over food and fish eggs. I have read those today and it really gross leh, my bulu roma still stand until now, yulk! blink.gif

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