Totally don't understand where you are coming from. Why do I need to bear costs when I am not the operator of the kindie? You should approach and tell the operator you are going to sokong them till they can get their approval to operate in Viola.

Currently it is operating illegally (if it is still operating.. have not gone there during weekdays), so imagine sending your children there. You think insurance will cover if there is any mishap happen to your child? This includes all those "illegal" kindies without approval that you have mentioned. If you want to take a risk with your child be my guest.

Let's be frank. I saw other residents complain other kindies, but come the MBSA hearing, none of the residents turn up to argue their case. We in Spira was very lucky in my opinion as at least there are some residents who are not NATO. For sure it would have been approved if no "pembangkang" turned up.

So if you are so active as you say you are, when it is Voila's turn, do turn up at MBSA to support your pet project vs. whichever Viola resident is against it.

A lot of these kindies actually open when the area is new and not much people have moved in. A bit weird considering the business model requires them to have people, but the reason for this is to force through the approval since most residents would not be aware. Once they are there, harder for residents with concern to get them to move out.

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 24 2012, 07:17 PM

there is a plot of land in the masterplan allocated for kindergarten. You can see it in TTDI's Sales office.

Just that the "entrepreneurs" do not want to wait for that portion to be open.

sry you are the one who wanted it. Since Spira does not want it , you can sponsor to move them to Viola since you are from a well to do family.

kindergarten in Spira is illegal. If it is still operating in Spira, I will continue to complain.

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Added on May 24, 2012, 10:42 pmyes. a letter was sent informing residents the kindie's application has been rejected. Can anyone confirm that it is still operating on weekdays?

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 24 2012, 10:45 PM

true.. wendy tan one starting to sound like he/she has a stake in the kindie.

the message here: we are not against a kindie in alam impian, just not in spira, if other phases want to accommodate them, certainly we won't protest or even comment.

when we set up the jmb, first thing is to dismantle the "security arrangement" they have with our guards. we know the kindie's got cable with ttdi to push their way thru until now.

most of you here are not even aware of the lies/misrepresentations the kindie operator tried to cook up during the MBSA hearing. If this is the type of ppl you want to entrust your kids to, *shrugg* your call.

1 thing i notice, some other phase owners all support the kindie. Well would you still support if it is in your phase, or you are supporting it because it is convenient for you and yet does not impact your G&G security since it is someone else's (Spira's) problem?

@ Wendy Tan One
Looking forward to you tearing down Viola's guard house because it is illegal too. Walk the talk.

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 25 2012, 09:31 AM

Why should I get the operator's contact? Shouldn't the operator have engaged the residents before they developed the kindergarten?

Of coz you don't get it. You were not there, and you are still in your illusion that kindie is all that great.
Lots of people in Spira complained and wrote in, but MBSA was only willing to consider complaints from the same road and direct neighbours of the kindie. That was still about 75% of occupied units there, including the direct neighbours of the kindie.

Whether Spira supports or rejects the kindie is a Spira internal matter. But you have decided to fight for the kindie even though you have conceded you are not a resident of Spira.
Let's be frank. I consider you selfish as you want your own convenience at the expense of others.

For those in Spira who are against the kindie still operating, please submit your complaint to http://aduan.mbsa.gov.my/ under Salahguna Bangunan.

investors are like the guy who rented out to the kindie. He certainly don't care about the living environment there. Yeah I have his details too.

But i do agree that alot of owners are investors. After 1 year, Spira is only abt 40-50% occupied. But most of the people in this forum are actually residents. My own reno is still not done yet.

There was talk of forming an RA. Even TTDI is asking us to form an RA. I don't confess to knowing what the delay is, only spending one day a week there just to check on the reno. Hopefully once I moved in, I can see for certain why there is a lack of will to form it.

The thing I dislike is that you claim to be on the side of residents, but yet you dismiss the views of the Spira residents who has raised their points and objections, and maintain an almighty perch claiming you know what's best. Does Viola 's interest outweigh those of Spira's (which is directly being affected by this)?

This was raised before but I will reiterate.

Say the kindie is allowed to operate:

1) Who is going to foot the additional security cost to due to additional load to the guards?
Answer: Spira Residents. Everyone will have to pay the cost altho only the house owner and kindie operator is reaping the profits. Parents are earning the convenience.
Loser: Spira Residents

2) touch wood say a kid got hurt or kidnapped. And Parent decide to sue. Who will get sued?
a. Kindie operator
b. Security company
c. JMB - why? because by allowing the kindie to operate, the spira residents would have to assume some responsibility of the security arrangement and lapses

3) the security lapses caused by the guards managing kindie parents allow a house to be broken into. Who is responsible?
a. Security company
b. JMB - why? because by allowing the kindie to operate, the spira residents would have to assume some responsibility of the security arrangement and lapses

These points have not considered the traffic congestion on the 2 lane road out front. Unless parents expect the guards to open boom for them the moment they drive up and horn, which just defeats the purpose of a guarded community.

To wendy tan and lucky2, please stop considering only your convenience and spare a thought for the Spira residents who have to foot the bill and responsibility.

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 25 2012, 11:11 AM

@Wendy Tan One

Your reply just shows how unlearned or skewed view point you have.

If you intend to practice selective reading, I won't waste my time.

I leave you with

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/M...709-288217.html

Your kids. Your call.

Non-attendees would not be able to vote. But we do not have the right to deny them their vote if they attend the meeting.
Investors can also appoint proxies.

I would want Spira and Viola to have separate RAs. There can be common collaboration (i.e. joint procurement of security services, fogging etc.) but I fail to see why Viola owners should have a say on how Spira operates and vice versa.

Better to have standalone RAs, and then do joint procurement/negotiation when necessary. Also makes it easier to involve Sephira, Aquina etc. when they VP

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 30 2012, 11:20 AM

The challenge is to collect the maintenance fees from the empty units

they have a facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Three-Kim-Me...194739190540979

For those who like to be able to concentrate on the constructive posts in this forum, feel free to click
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=user...nore&uid=609111

Was in Spira today to do work on the curtains. Am pleased to report that the kindie is starting to move out (some external fittings like lights removed). There is still a car parked outside so no confirmation whether classes are still running.

On the Africans issue, hope the Viola-ians are able to engage the owner. I wonder if it is the same malay girl - african group that rented Jeghui's unit or a new one.

An point to ponder: No gated or guarded community is safe from a trojan horse. Investors need to seriously vet their tenants as I've heard of cases where a gang of robbers would rent a house, rob everyone in the taman then move on. Hope everyone can learn from Jeghui's predicament. Don't trust your agent fully as they are only after that 1 month rent.

This post has been edited by zenquix: May 31 2012, 07:22 PM

I've seen a very big spider in my house. luckily nothing else so far....

if sulphur is used, it should ring around the residential area rather than individual units or tamans.

yeah the good news is we are now listed in tm's website..

just that the postcode is 40460.... so should we be 40460 or 40470

Unifi Address Search

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Added on June 15, 2012, 12:26 amnot sure about this anymore.... no news at all from TTDI...

This post has been edited by zenquix: Jun 15 2012, 12:26 AM

if we really get 50% off, unifi 10Mbps is only RM99.50

haha well so far i have tried both and the unifi package is a lot more stable. Having issues with the Maxis's Thomson router (that is a piece of crap)

pls put spoiler.

the ttdi lawyer just told me today (after they keep telling me they will call me back) that in order to process my MOT i have to make the quit rent payment.

Never received? Not an excuse. Have to go land office to enquire my own account number and make payment. Damn I am already passed the closing date.

Anyone know how much our quit rent for spira is?

must be the director units...

only 1 size - 24x70 at 650k above based on the ad in the star
still looks like director unit to me

This post has been edited by zenquix: Jun 21 2012, 11:35 PM

i recall 24x70 is 500k at launch. not sure whether this is a corner unit of course...