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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners / Fan Thread V13, Mod car not war!

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post Dec 5 2011, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Dec 5 2011, 12:47 AM)
bro, got t10 led for rear no. plate?  brows.gif
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T10 for rear plate can buy in Pasar Road la... plenty of colors and type there... no need drive to Klang just to get, unless you pass there lor...

Or get the Klangsters to buy from Shorty and pass to you???
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(stewPik @ Dec 5 2011, 12:06 PM)
when ONE side caught water and pull ur steering to 1 side....is NOT aquaplaning la...it means the TYRE is doing it's job ..

FIZIKs - 1 side no beban ..the other side got beban ....sure the steering will move towards the side with beban ma...

aquaplaning = NO beban watsoever at all..in other words....tyre already NO grip....
Was about to reply this "aquaplaning" thingy that almost everyone is getting it wrong...

As accurately said by stewPik... when you feel your wheels pulling one side, it simply mean one tyre (deep in water) is turning slower due to added friction of water than the other tyre (not deep in water)... when it pulls, means BOTH tyres are sticking on the road, just that one spins slower....

When you aquaplane, you dont feel any pull or any sheet.... your steering becomes loose and your car slides and drifts as it wants.... I dont think many of you guys have felt this....

So, the CC5 is doing its job, the pulling is mainly due to the lower water displacement capabilities of if (aka pushing water out of the grooves) as the Yokos....

Nicely said, Mr stewPik....(he is rather clever actually)... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Added on December 5, 2011, 3:13 pm
QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 5 2011, 12:21 PM)
Aiyor bro.... nothing to do with rim lah.... its yoru tyre... 15/16/19/20... actually the higher (wider) tyres... i less confidence in rain/wet condition
You are right, the wider the tyre the worse grip it have.... damn hard to explain in words... ask me if you see me in TT.... if you wanna know.... brows.gif brows.gif

(NOT ASK ME FOR MY 2TB.... doh.gif )

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post Dec 5 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Dec 5 2011, 12:39 PM)
so should i pump 220 into both F/R or pump front more a bit? I thought for FR cars, we should pump more air into the front tyres.

If Aquaplane your steering won't even get pulled loh....you'll just float through like wheel lock..
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You can pump 220 front and 210 back, if you dont carry passengers at the back.... FR car need more air as the engine and driveshaft is at the front....
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 5 2011, 01:25 PM)
is it? isnt it supposed to cut through water without any feeling?

pull one side cos one side has traction, and another side has no traction, no?

yes, because there is a puddle of water there, so now got water= no beban(traction), then no water= now got traction, so will pull one side.
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Nope.... if one side of the wheel have NO traction while the other side have full traction, your car will have spun.... think about it....
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Dec 5 2011, 02:02 PM)
LooKs like today nt much snake around.... Thr thread mOve so slooooooow.....
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The Penang kias are here to spice up the Monday Blues ma.....
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM)
HSK .. which RPM range .. Beta rom pull faster ?
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You asks these kinda small details from HSK meh??? Blain not fully functioning yet, baru wake up ma...

Seriously, I NEVER keep my eyes on the RPM meter when i drive, i mainly based my feedback on the feel of the pickup, and guesstimate the RPM based on the feel....

Pls ask XC for better description.....

Oso hor, the RPW map seems ok oredi, no dips anywhere oredi.....
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(stewPik @ Dec 5 2011, 03:16 PM)
shocking.gif  THE KING praised me..... shocking.gif  although it sounds and feels sarcastic.... ----chabutzzzzzzz
....anyways i've felt aquaplaning numerous times....and once ended in quite a bad crash.....the rest mayb 360 - 720 degress spin...nothing much...LoL...so yeah thats y i have a little more knowledge in this....hahaha..........

OH...and aquaplaning is more prone to happen when after rain or when it's just drizzling ......mainly because the rain has just recently washed up and brought up all the dirt and oil to the surface of the road.....smile.gif)
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You FELT it leh....????

I have plenty of aquaplaning play experience.... had one in Inspira a few week back.... heavy rain + long downwards slope + 100km = balls oso shrink....!!!
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(lazyboy666 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:20 PM)
wow.. u got a bad crash & the rest mayb 360-720.. AND u still HAVE the BALLS OF STEAL

u earn my respect!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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huh??? shocking.gif shocking.gif

Once you have been there and done that, and for a few times, you know very well what your car can do in which situation.... thus others will see it as balls of steel, while you simply have the experience and know what can be done.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:28 PM)
slight dip at 4250 rpm .. to 4500 rpm


Added on December 5, 2011, 3:29 pm

from basketball size to ping pong ball size ??

just trying to help u visualize the feeling ...

Chabuttzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Seriously, at 4K RPM ++, my eyes are full on the road.... and i dont think i felt it....

When you slip and slide (aka aquaplaning), you feel like a "thai kam" (eunuch) lor..... doh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Dec 5 2011, 03:31 PM)
i wish... but home minister watching closely with my every lil single move.... dare not even "stim" in office, if not tmr morning my kkc might gone feeding my koi ....  sweat.gif
then what about cutting the water thru like moses?? thts something gotto do with the "flower" of the tire rite?
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Yup.... for water displacement, the treads of the tyres (aka tyre flower... not those QQ or Wakaka or Danok type, ok???) are responsible for this.... thus you will see find diff tread for diff tyre properties.... uni-direction la, V type la. etc...

Me not good in explaining, pls go google or wiki tyre treads patterns...

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post Dec 5 2011, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Dec 5 2011, 03:39 PM)
one more question: the tire says "treadwear 300, traction B" and "91V" .. what do tht indicate ah??
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Treadwear = lifespan of tyre, the higher the longer, but usually also means the louder as they use harder compound to make it last...

Traction = braking distance on wet roads measured in a straight line.... rated from AA, A, B and C.... AA being the best lor.... this is usually directly in relation to Treadwear, as longer the lifespan, the harder the compound, the worse the braking distance lor...

91V = index of load (max weight the tyre can take) and Speed Symbol (max speed the tyre can run)... so 91V = 615 kg of weight (per tyre) and max run speed of 240km/h lor...


So buying tyres are not simply about 225/45/18... the type of the tyre (as per above markings) is more important as they tell you what is the max rating they can take, and you should match this to your driving style and habits....
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Dec 5 2011, 03:49 PM)
yep... traction only happens when u r doing with ur indon maid and suddenly your wife knows the door.....  hahahah
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You have been in that situation before leh.... sounds like speaking from sexperience....

But hor... there are some really cute and horny maids.... i have had the honor.....


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:54 PM)
sampan were not suppose to be on the road in the first place... it should be in the river ....

Chabutzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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You oso have a Lagi Power Super Best sampan ma.... no??

So waiting for flood to hit your area to fully utilize your sampan???

Chabutzzz.....

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post Dec 5 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 5 2011, 03:56 PM)
uncle poadster ar, can enlighten me on below question?

205/60/16 = ori

normally can find 205/55/16 = 3% off

215/55/16 = 1.4% off.

so 215 is more suitable? but will it make my tire look very fat? and thus affect the handling? or actually its better by providing more surface contact and thus, traction.
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Tyres looking "fat" usually means the offset is too little.... thus when ppl change rims, they need to ask how bulging they want the rims and tyres to look.... too much (48 and your rims sits deeper into the car), too little (42 and the rims and tyres may hit the fender)...

Inspira rims offset is 46, using a 215 wont add much bulk to the looks of the rims and tyres... but have anyone used 215/55/16 on their Inspira?? You may be the first, as many will either change rims + tyres, or simply remain using CC5 205/60/16....


Added on December 5, 2011, 4:08 pm215/55/16 will be better than 205/55/16 in terms of looks and performance.... its only 1.4% away from the ori CC5....

And the 205/55/16 will make your tyres even smaller in the wheel arch.... fugly lor....

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post Dec 5 2011, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 5 2011, 04:08 PM)
sad.gif

like that i should go for 205/55/16?

or just take some normal tire that has 205/60/16?

i follow the old school style, mod from ground level. tire, brake, suspension, and then engine tongue.gif no la, not modding anything.
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215/55/16 will be better than 205/55/16 in terms of looks and performance.... its only 1.4% away from the ori CC5....

And the 205/55/16 will make your tyres even smaller in the wheel arch.... fugly lor....

But honestly, very rarely I have seen ppl go for smaller tyre size than ori..... but blame it on Proton for using odd sized tyres.....

What is your concern? Looks or wet weather performance?? If performance, then you can still use the CC5, just dont drive so crazily in the rain lor.....

Personally I would either size up or use CC5 till its dead, then size up... which exactly what I am doing now....
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 5 2011, 04:17 PM)
Speaking of size up.. for 17" rims.. what tyre size looks decent? DOnt ask me go for slim tyres anymore.... this car i wan comfort first... not vroom vroom power
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Vroom vroom power demands 18 or 19 lor....

17 is best matched with 215/55/17, makes the wheel well not so "kosong" and you still have the comfort.... my opinion la...


Added on December 5, 2011, 4:22 pm
QUOTE(miuk @ Dec 5 2011, 04:19 PM)
Moral of the story (actually HSK got no morals wan), only when the Poadster active in the forum does the post counts start flying. Before this the thread move damn slow.
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Woi.... i have principles.... morals are highly overrated.....

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post Dec 5 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 5 2011, 04:25 PM)
Bro.... i change 1 rear tyre for 19"... RM1250 per piece.. this summore is super cheap ass Klang price... dont go 19" liao lah for daily use car  cry.gif

Anyway... 17/18" best tyre choice.. 19" many tyre dont have size le....

Even Scooby/Evo all also comes with 18"..
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Me too (heh heh) poor for 19", thus still using 16"...

Actually our wheel well can fit 20" oso.... saw one car with 20", white....

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QUOTE(matkela @ Dec 5 2011, 04:32 PM)
It has to do with wider tyres having more contact surface area on the road. Vehicle weight remains the same.

Mathematically,  Pressureforce divide by area      
                  
The rest of it ask Poadster at TT.  Who says size does not matter? whistling.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Wider tyres have wider width contact, but as weight remains the same, the contact length area becum reduced.... thus they perform worse in braking and water displacement in wet than slimmer tyres....

Size does matter, but not as much as to technique.... brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 5 2011, 04:39 PM)
Nexen n8000 also got this size.

ps3....sounds very expensive, lol,.
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215/55/16 have way more options in brands than 205/60/16 ma....
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Dec 5 2011, 04:40 PM)
how come F1 tire so big... might as well they use some thing like bicycle one?? ... sorry i really dont know....

damn 9 confusing!! LOL
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F1 tyres are wide AND thick, 245/55 R13 (front) and 350/45 R13 (rear), yes... F1 cars uses 13" rims.... doh.gif doh.gif

The diff are the overall weight of the F1 cars. max weight is 640kgs (with driver, fuel + cameras).... which is almost half our Inspira weight....

Thus their braking distance is very very very good....



When i refer to slimmer tyres, i mean 205 vs 225 only, not the other factors ma.... doh.gif doh.gif

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post Dec 5 2011, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(alpha_mid @ Dec 5 2011, 04:41 PM)
haih just now my left side pelepah aka mudguard (i guess) nut cabut.. so then my tyre contact with it n make some friction.. haih... can claim kah this thing..
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Dude.... your car so many nuts loose lor.... what kinda vibrating movement goes on inside the car that creates all these loose nuts???? brows.gif brows.gif

I doubt these stuff can claim, its wear and tear.... but u can always try....

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