Hi,

Any Paludarium fans here ?

I am big fans of this kinda setup.
below are some of my tanks.
anyone else like this kinda setup ? post ur tanks also


Gourami Tank


Butterfly fish / Archer fish Tank


Rainbow / Angel fish Tank


Previous Gourami Tank ( Taken down )


A Pair of Buttefly fish hiding among the plants

This post has been edited by broken_string: Nov 26 2011, 08:28 AM

nice.. not bad...

thx mate,

other than the center one, the rest are barely 2 months old and not mature yet.. still working on it

u got any paludarium ?

wooooaaaaahhh amazing!!!
I'd love to see someone post his/her riparium here

one noob question. how do u clean it? i imagine it must be very tedious.

yeah, hope to see more riparium owner here.
can share knowledge and info about this hobby.

not really, there is a power filter hidden somewhere within the driftwoods for the 1st and 2nd pic.
for the 3rd pic i use canister filter as u can see from the pic.
all i did was a weekly 10-20% water change tats all.
in fact this kinda setup is even less tedious than fully planted tank.
i only use low tech plants, so far i dint put any co2 and fertilizer yet.

How to set up such tank?
Find it very interesting but am guessing bout the filter and pump system.
How to plant also still guessing with no answers

its not tat hard to setup tis kinda tank.
juz need to find a few piece of suitable driftwood
arrange it nicely and lay the water tube.
for the filteration u can buy canister filter, its abit expensive but worth it coz u would have less headache. I got one canister and another 2 DIY filteration system.

for the plants u can juz use low tech plant like anubis, nana, cryptocorene etc
for the lighting, i juz diy using normal fluorescent tube or u can buy ready make light from LFS.

nice ~~

did you use any mist bar to keep the moisture above ur tank ? as i can see the wood are wet

i got a humidifier but seldom use it.
the woods are wet because i got lay water tube around it from the filter.

Maybe u can demo how to place the tubes and such?

u may check out my first pic, i lay the water tube around the driftwood,
and punch some holes along it, so when the pump is on, water will drip down from the water tube to the driftwood..

after sometime when the moss and other plants outgrown the driftwood, the water tube is no longer visible from outside.

I see...no wonder..haha..i thought u manually spray them

A mist system on top will allow u to grow riccia or moss on drift wood

This post has been edited by ciohbu: Nov 26 2011, 01:42 PM

sometime i will manually mist them esp during noon time because the tank is located outside. I did grow moss and riccia on top

used to have some HC on one of the tank also but i tink die off already..

cool setup bro!

Thumbs ups!

Key to such setup is to maintain water temperature and provide sufficient lights for your plants and they will rewards u handsomely!

Cheers mate!

last time u got 2 turtle terrarium for my AST...but now no more, coz cant fit them ady..hehehehe

thanks mate..


wat u mean ?
i dont get u

kekee... one of my fav terrarium, but some of the plants are carnivorous



http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumap...ant-layout.html

oh tis one !!
i saw before, in fact i tink almost the whole thing is full of CP.
very nice tank indeed.

how you lay the piping around the drift wook?
and mine to know detail on your DIY filterarion systen

amazing!!

ok bro,
i will try to snap some pic of my tube and pipe from my tanks.
good thing is i just setup the tank, so the moss and plants have not yet fully covered it yet.
but it also make the upper part look very lauyah due to the exposed tubes and tied knot.

as for the filtration, i will also post some pic out later.
its DIY using tupperware and watertube bought from hardware shop.
total cost about 60-70 bucks so its not really tat cost effective because a cheap canister filter only around 100 something nowadays.
I am doing it for fun and satisfaction and just for those outdoor tanks, coz i tink normal canister wont last long if put outside the house.
If your tank is located indoor better to get a proper canister.

when you mentioned diy ur canister filter. i read from i mac, puketekan also did that. Just that when you mentioned " pump" what kinda pump did u mean?
I visited aquatic shops and still can't figure what " pump".
I only saw air pup, top filter, sub mersible filter, hob filter, canister filter.

lol sorry, i familiar with pump.
actually its sumersible filter, aka power filter.

i attach a quick draft using paint.
sorry for the noobish drawing coz at work and my boss is behind me only


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i have a submersible filter. it's the standing type.
some sort like this.
Is this the type you're mentioning?
So just cabut all the filter containers ( just need the motor?)

nono, dont cabut anything..
this filter not suitable coz its not strong enough.

u will need to use powerfilter and a strong one to be able to push the water through the filtering material back to the tank..

strong as in the voltage?
what bout the water flow? berapa litre?
I think i saw this pump before.. But never check the price.

i normally use those 30watt and above
about 2000 litre per hour
price around 20-35

only strong pump like the above can push the water through the filtering media and back up to the tank again.

its quite troublesome to DIY, just get a proper canister will be better value actually.. peace of mind XD

Some forumer did mention diy canister filter better because can use bigger container. Besides, canister filter also don't come cheap..it's like RM200 plus?

its hard to find a suitable tupperware, and its hard to DIY using plastic pipe from hardware shop.

i bought a cheap jet canister filter for 150 only..

RM150 is affordable. My local LFS -biggest ( Ipoh) got their stocks from Penang- KW and CTY.
Everything is slightly higher. And the stores also located at Golden triangle!!.

oh u at ipoh..
i am from kampar lolz..

can anyone teach me how to make the background step by step.
im stuck with at what to use to hardened it? read a few names that they used, but not sure or familiar what i am looking for in hardware shop since they always said the brand name, here in malaysia, we dont even have that brand name.



This post has been edited by LuQEE: Apr 11 2012, 10:04 PM

u can juz buy the background from most LFS.. its about 2ft x 1.5ft per piece.

never know this thread in LYN.
Luqee, seems you are 1 step ahead of me.. hehe

The background you buy it at LFS. around rm20 IINM.
but it will come with 2 pieces. unless you refering to the DIY platform, DIY waterfall etc..

Plan to make riparium for my 2ft tank. we can just use the sand taken from river right?

my favorite riparium

u can get from river or waterfall but make sure u got them higher up stream.
Also remember to clean it because you dont know what kinda bacteria or germs it might contain.

This is what i did to my waterfall sands.

1. wash clean with water
2. Pour boiling water on it
3. spread it out on the floor and let the sun dry them

after this only i will put it in my terrarium but after the above process most of the nutrient will be gone.
u will have to start from zero.

Thx for the tip..
planned to do it on last wednesday but heavy rain here.
so have to pospone it tomorrow.

btw, may i know what plant you use in the 1st pic on the ground??

those are cryptocorene..

hoho thanx for the tons of info

wonder any lfs near my place they sell terrarium background. NA got them?
but my tank got middle glass bracers in them, you think i should cut those background into 2 parts (1/4 form the original 2ft size) so i cant put inside the tank?

i believe most LFS will carry those background.
Dont cut them into half, its much more hassle free if u remove the middle glass bracer and put the background in.
afterwards juz glue back the middle glass bracer with silicone.

however if ur doing riparium, having the middle glass bracer is kinda ugly in my opinion.

ps; remember to silicone the background properly to avoid it coming off after everything been setup.

+1

been there before. have to remove everything..
haish

ya, tats damm tedious esp when all the plants already growing nicely.
for the background i dun think u can glue it like spreading kaya on your bread.
u need to silicone it on the edge to secure it on the tanks.

hurm, cutting the brace itself seems hard for me since my razor cant even go through between the glass to cut the silicone glue.
so instead, planning to ditch the background idea for the time being since my 2ft tank is currently not large enuff in width length (30cm).
any comments on my layout test scape? playing with the hard-scape while waiting enough budget to get holland sand and submersible water pump.
*substrate gonna be about 2 inches deep so the scape will look like mini island like in riverside
*on the left side, will topup with amazonia on top of the lava rocks for emmersed plants while output filter will constantly water it there and hopefully the barricade rocks will become mini waterfall ..lol
*branches, some of them will be tied with creep plants like pokok duit2 and btween brances will be T. ionantha's.
*Right side will be the basking spot for turtles, underneath will be placed water pump to regulate flow and redirect them to input filter.

nice design, but the brace will definitely spoil the view lolz..
its there for those ppl to put the power filtration box only.

btw, can i ask how high will the water level be?
and what kinda wood is tat ? will rot or not ??

and what kinda filter will you be using for this setup ?

after adding the gravel, and the hardscape will be higher, water level i guess must be middle level point of the barricade rocks
the wood planning to change to more hard wood type later when everything is complete, but for now use that first la, also 80-90% of the wood will not not touch water and hopefully it will not rot. but fear the wood will soak the water at the bottom and all those branches will end up wet/damp.

filter, planning to use internal filter, hidden behind the immersed plants or at the back of the woods & rocks.
if not, will use my unused 2213 la.

an island with the barricaded rocks rite ?
seems interesting, really looking forward to your completed tank.



something like this rite ?

but to me, 2ft seems abit small to do this kinda scape.
a 3ft should be juz nice.

as for the wood, as long as the bottom is in the water, it will seep into the woods i believe.

if u put internal filter somemore, its goona be quite pack and you will have to consider when u need to clean it next time.

sorry for all the questions, all the best

thats the one!!! i got that T.Ionathia idea from that scape..love it and
with the mixture of this idea



want to have that kind of tank, the bottom one but since lack of space, budget and parents permission to keep more than 1 aquarium, have to do this one and put inside my cramped room but i prefer all of them are in my room though. help me relax.

the wood will have to wait till i found a good and cheap replacement, LFS charging them quite expensive for me.
yup, will reconsider on the 2213 filter then, much easier and will not cramped the small tank.

dont care if youre asking me a lot of questions, i prefer it to be that way, easier to improve my skills and helps eliminating careless mistakes which might had been done by previous peers. hehe
thanx anyway

using canister filter is the best for this kinda setup.
those woods tat looks like tree branch all also damm expensive one

i am also setting up a new paludarium soon, now still cycling the tank.

normally how much is the background cost? n what is the material use?

20-30 bucks per set, its in polystyrene.

Im planning to create something like this for my turtle tank. Half water half land. Maybe ill add some frogs or lizards. but i need help.



1. How do i make sure that the soil doesn't fall into the water and in the end become level throughout the whole terrarium, since my turtles are quite aggressive? should i have a barrier to keep the soil in place?

2. what type of soil should i use if i don't want to cloud my water?

Thanks in advance!

a tank like tat and turtles juz dun get along. u can hav either one but not both.

dont mix turtles with lizs or frogs or newts or salamanders... they will get bitten or worse, eaten.

Oic. Thanks for the advice.

My Chinese Fire Bellied Newt tank.

Not sure what kind of tank this is called:

^ riparium... and nice one
im still looking for cheap Cynops orientalis.. used to have lots of them since they are quite cheap, RM4-5 in lfs each near my home
nowadays, their price is too high or no stock hoho

Can I ask what type of branch you are using for you tank? I'm refering to the picture in a few replies above. And also, where do you get it from?

I'm using a root of a small tree (dunno what kind of tree) I found near a pond. I washed it and placed it into the tank. Now, there are a few tiny, translucent mushrooms growing on it. So far, everything is okay. The newts don't eat them so I leave the mushrooms alone.

well, one advice, before putting any wood into any tank, i usually boil them up to kill those unwanted stuffs.
in my case, since they are too big, i just dumped them in a basin, filled with hot boiling water till it covered all of them, then let them untill water is cool down and dry it right back.

the wood im using is a mixture of cut wood i found along the road by the MPSJ (lol) and my longan tree. i found out, hard wood are better since they take a very long time to rot.
the MPSJ woods already starts to become britte and break easily lol

need to refer to the sifus here la, my method i got them from my planted tank method hehe

this power head is actually frm the usual filter we see right?
How to you fix the plants in mid air? I'm tearing dwn my 2ft crooked planted. am thinking of doing a less hassle -rium

Yes, that is the powerfilter that is available at every LFS.

u have to select the rite choice of plants, not every plants suitable to be planted in a terrarium.
its easier to use nana, microsorium or any plants they sell in lfs that comes with driftwood but they are abit exp.

for economical ways, u can gather those plants tat grow beside the drains

LFS plants not much variety. The price is even hideous!!!!

thats y we collect/pillage them from the wild~

True, very true. Especially driftwood. LFS prices are crazy for a small piece of wood.

if anyone happen to go hunting for Driftwood/bogwood/branchy stuffs/flora/fauna in the wild~ ,
can take a few extras and sell them cheaper here?
i know some of us in here, wont mind paying for it
besides, this way, we can eliminate invasive species of flora and fauna in our country , well, if you know how to differentiate for one
just caught 10 huge Rana catesbeiana last 2 weeks and sold them to Chinese restaurant lol..

use to make trips to collect stuff from the wild
but lately too bz already

anyway, those plants collected from the wild need to be quarantine and clean before entering the tanks.
furthermore, they might not survive in our tanks in the end

therefore for convenience purpose buying from LFS is a much better option imho.



my humble collection of woods

This post has been edited by broken_string: Apr 23 2012, 11:08 PM

Lelong, lelong.
Or for free :D

Not for sale
need it for my terrariums

Awww.....

Hahaha, guess I have to go hunting for wood this weekend.

those woods got from LFS or pillaging?
trying to get that type of wood while going for an adventure, end up not found anything liek that..

most are from LFS,

only a few are from waterfall. quite lazy to carry them down as its steep and friggin heavy haha..

need some estimation, how much is the average price for the small one and the price for the big one (each)?

the biggest one is the most expensive rm80
the one beside it is about rm15 its collected from the waterfall lolz.
the LFS boss took it down.. in the end i bought it haha..
the rest are between 15-20 for the big one.

the smaller one is between 3-10

cheap..maybe bcoz they are bogwood instead of the branchy driwftwood..

yeah, and also i am a regular customer at that LFS,

those branchy one very expensive, furthermore its not suitable for those theme tat i like to scape.

branchy one more suitable for planted tanks.

hurm... so in the end, my turtles riparium have to hold yet again..due to limited budget(one almost cost me about RM80+ each) and not finding cheap suitable branchy driftwood.. sigh..
its the 5th time~
their current temporary holding cell:

well, its really not recommended to keep turtle in terrarium.

those soft shell will literally turn ur terrarium upside down, use to kept one before in a half concrete tank with pepples, it like to dig inside and cover himself until left his head.

all ur arrangement will be ruin by it.

and for the red eared sliders, while its not as destructive as the soft shell but it poo alot, its goona be very hard to maintain clean water in ur terrarium.

for now it still ok coz they are small but when they grow bigger u will have trouble.

unless u have a big tank with powerful filteration. else a bare minimum tank will be sufficient for them.

lol jk jk

i knew it would result to this..
hurm.. so far, the small CSST usually tries to dig alot... so planning to put barrier rocks while the rest just plain gravel or sand.
for the RES issues, barrier rocks will prevent the RES from eating my plants(immersed), and the plants will help a bit by sucking down those excess poo, and using 2 filters, eheim 2213 and hob or internal filter rated 500l/h type..sigh~
later after 2 years, need to throw them to a cement pool like youve said , since cannot fit the tank already lol

Anyone tried keeping predatory fish like oscars or mala wolf in such design?
since they need floor space then height( I think) . Maybe it can be made possible? in a 3ft and above tank?
Hmm~~ I wonder...

lol genielee.. haha..tibe2 chanas crop pix inside that paludarium hehe

so much work juz for those guys ?
well i think a terrarium for them can work and be quite nice but only if its huge.
at least 5ft and above

it can work but 3ft tank is too small, even 4ft is small for me.
very kesian the fish cant swim much due to the limited water and also big bogwood in the tanks.

if u can do a 8ft and above tank its goona be awesome

lol wtf
i once caught a snake head similar to that but the dorsal fin is blueish.

sigh, im having backache just to WC them evryday lol...
now every evening, dumping them in my temporary 2ft community tank for them to excercise and swimming lesson, they manage to scare my weird tilapia fish shitless which is 5 times the size, turtles double team attack ftw lol

ur tilapia so penakut lol.. my tilapia killed 1 of my florida gar which is about 1 feet long.. tat tilapia juz 4 inch only lolz..

Wanna do something for ur kura-kura? Try this

haha, that pic.. lol.. youre waiting for my kura kura , while i waiting for ure channas inside that pic lol

this is a nice setup for amphibians

for turtle it seems too deep

If it's the large sp like snapping or star, it think is good. so no quarrels if two are to be comm together

that tank is at least 3ft tall and 5ft length so the glass should be at least 10mm. its goona be quite costly

my fren bought a 422 for rm350 somemore tat one around 6mm or 8mm thick only.

i bought a 4ft, if nt mistaken 0.5cm, is rm100. so Broken_string, don come to batu gajah. i think it's only 0.5cm.
A 8ft with half an inch is rm1.6K. I really wished can have this kind of tank outdoor at the porch. So can see actions

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!


A tank that big should be used for a whole community of salamanders or poison arrow frogs. Or monster fishes.

In the future, my house will have aquariums for walls.

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Added on April 24, 2012, 12:46 pmMy next project will look something like this, but with a larger water area:





This post has been edited by beer8bottles: Apr 24 2012, 12:46 PM

My house is small. I dont think anyone other than me will wanna fork out the money or wall to do a glass wall.
Hmm..
maybe i knock dwn my little bathroom toilet wall that sambung my bedroom.
But the wall is small, how to keep fishie inside?? wonder~~
or maybe the living hall to dinin hall wall? hmm..also approximately 4ft+ length..

5mm for a 4ft tank is seriously dangerous. got brace or not ? I hope u wont fill up the tank too high.
my 4ft tank pecah before but lucky its at nite and no one is near it.
but my 1ft + tilapia die due to tat
that tank is braceless and juz 5mm thick only


yeah..

this will be my dream tank in future

Lovely! But to house what? How big is the tank u need?
Maybe u help me do mine? I can house you 3D2N with unlimited paip water and drinking water.

Maybe later i measure again. I did tell that shop i'm keeping predatory fish. and the tank should be safe he's a aro breeder. He should know better .

I will lower the water level to 70%. Coz wanna do rium-rium like u guys.

Broken_string,
Come to my place, and you teach me do step-by-step. Once done, I chia you minum 3 laye tea at Klebang while looking at expensive
houses we might not be able to buy.

i tink tats a 422 tank with 10mm thickness
plus the cabinet must have cost a bomb but its so nice

like the scape, perfect for amphibians like newts or frogs
but the paku pakis will turn into a bush very soon

How to fix the ferns and moss on the wall?
Moss can use stainless steel mesh and superglue? What bout the ferns/paku?