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But I seriously doubt tuning ignition alone will gain another 15whp easily
But definitely for sure the response will be way way better



GFX, that is not considered tuning

This post has been edited by shinjite: Dec 15 2011, 02:56 PM

Reef d changing his once..n he is driving auto..i think around rm700..but i forget the breakdown..

help anyone

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Why is it not considered? In emanage, there is ignition control right?

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Added on December 15, 2011, 3:26 pmPpl usually say "my car tuned to RON 95", or "tuned to RON97".
If ignition control is not part of tuning, then why the different tuning according to different fuel?
I say ignition control is what matters most and should be an integral part of any good tuning.
Just like how SAFC is not good in this case...

This post has been edited by GEFORCEXTREME: Dec 15 2011, 03:26 PM

Did I even say that ignition tuning is not part of tuning?

It is not about the capabilities of the management, it is the method used (highlighted) which is wrong. Advancing ignition timing till before it knocks doesn't mean is the optimal or generates power as different engines have different loads. Even gearing plays a role on an engine load even at low rpms (highest gear)

So if for example, advancing 8 degrees ignition and you net xxx amount of power and no knocking, then you advance further and gained nothing and still no knocking then you retard till about 4-5 degrees and still get the same amount of power. Why do you need to have a more advance ignition when the engine doesn't produce any more power?

You can consult Thomas from GT Auto, he will explain more in detail which makes lots of sense

This post has been edited by shinjite: Dec 15 2011, 03:41 PM

Advancing ignition timing till before it knocks doesn't mean is the optimal or generates power as different engines have different loads.
The definition of optimal is very subjective, for one person very good drivability is optimal, while for another, the peak power generated drom the dyno is what optimal settings is all about. And yeah, different engines have different loads, but we're saying tuning for a car, why do we have to compare different engines?

Even gearing plays a role on an engine load even at low rpms (highest gear)
Yeah, gearing plays a role, but its an integral part of the car right? We're not choosing different gearbox also... in other words, for one car with certain engine and certain gearbox, you tune that car.

So if for example, advancing 8 degrees ignition and you net xxx amount of power and no knocking, then you advance further and gained nothing and still no knocking then you retard till about 4-5 degrees and still get the same amount of power. Why do you need to have a more advance ignition when the engine doesn't produce any more power?
Stop lah when advancing don't gain you anything.

how he drive

By the way, shinjite, I was making the assumption that ignition advance almost always gain you more power and the only back holding you back it the knocking and detonation.

I however have no hands on experience in dyno tuning before and don't know if advancing the ignition can cause power loss (or no gains). Can they?

In cam/valve timing, yes, you can shift the power band around with the SOHC head or change it (increase power or shift it) in the DOHC. But ignition timing? Isn't it almost always "the more the better" (to a point where your car starts knocking at least and also within the limits your distributor and management will allow).

This post has been edited by GEFORCEXTREME: Dec 15 2011, 04:13 PM

Common campro problem la dei..

wa. .

if u have a dyno to use, more does not necessarily mean better.......more means more fc...... but if u don't have a dyno to use, no choice.....

Mounting - RM95
Driveshaft - rm320
Gearbox bracket - RM58

all prices quoted inclusive of installation..

Ok, thanks bro!

thanx for help

may i know where u sent ur car to?

the guy told me for driveshaft there is taiwan made- rm300 where as ori proton is rm380. and mounting's price so much different that kedai cutthroat?

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So..u campro kan?

yeah high5...
i got same issue...


*popcorn time*

ya. . . ltr drive till half terburai smua lol