I saw there are 2 transmission towers next to the project site - anybody can comment if the transmission waves from those towers will cause cancer?

I also saw that there is a minor landslide near the entrance of the site and I wonder if this is the sign that the soil condition is shaky.

Since this Project appears to be next to NKVE highway so it will surely that unit owners will hear those loud exhaust noise from Ferrari, Evo, Subaru etc when they are revving along NKVE highway

Whether he is a geologist is not important but the Damansara Foresta will be built based on the same guideline as how Bukit Antarabangsa condominiums were built as the new guideline on hill slope developments went into to coma and it will awake and rise again when there is another major landslide. This is the proof of "Malaysia Boleh" dilemma.

As experts have said that there are flaws in the exiting guideline on Hill Slope developments therefore the occupants in Damansara Foresta is like driving a car into any shopping complex reminding that " PARK AT YOUR OWN RISK" so it is equivalent of "OCCUPYING AT YOUR OWN RISK".

The most important point that need considertation is after all Phases are completed and handed over to the owners the Developer will say thank you and in their mind developments will move on and surely the Developer couldn't be bother to manage and monitor the hill slope conditions from time to time and you must pray that JKR and MPPJ will do it and not until the landslide occurs. So Joint-Management Body will have to hire expert to conduct test periodically themselves and the costs will be borne by owners in the form of maintenance charges.

One must remember that the slope facing the LDP near Damansara Flora was used to be ex-quarry of rocks many many years ago and one point that is pondering me that will there be any side-effect to the soil condition on the Hill i.e. where Damansara Foresta is situate on the same hill.

Be prepare that if there is another major landslide caused by hill developments then history will be repeated that the Government or State Government will issue Stop Work Order.

As such, it may cause delay in handing over vacant possession and later when owners want to claim for liquidated damages provided in the Sale and Purchase Agreement - do you think that the Developer will honour their obligations under the Sale and Purchase Agreement to compensate 10% interest to the Owners for late delivery of handing over vacant possession.

A simple calculation is property valued at 700K then 10% interest per annum for liquidated ascertained damages is equivalent to about RM191.75 per day. So if delay is 100 days owners are entitle to claim RM19,175.00 and if 1 year delay then it will be RM69,988.75. Wow!

Lastly, I am not anti-Damansara Foresta but it will be safer that if the developments will not be based on the old guideline of hillslope developments.

Remember when NATURE CALL it will cause NATURAL DISASTER - one do not need evidence at this point in time as it can't be seen at the moment until the whole development has been completed i.e the impact caused by the development on the soil condition of the Hill.

Be caution as the Chinese proverb say "SELLING FLOWER WILL SAY FLOWER's FRAGRANT IS NICE".

The landslides occurred lately eg Damansara 21, Bukit Antarabangsa etc also got their so-called experts and geologist but when landslide took place these experts' earlier "very sure" opinion and finding that the development is safe will be transformed by saying they are unable to predict nature call i.e unusual heavy rains, underground soil movement is unpredictable etc and sometime they do blame the impact caused from other nearby developments.

The danger will remains when the site of development is a water retention area - better see if there is pond, waterfall etc at the site and nearby surrounding area. If so, risk is there but how terrible will be the risk can only seen after Nature Call (if any).

I wish repeat again that I am not anti-Damansara Foresta but my concern is for good deed,in that. those possibilities must be addressed to. So the choice is left with those potential buyers but for me I will personally consider the following points:-

(a) if I think the risk does not exist then I will go ahead;
(b) if Iam in doubt then I will go to the site again to conduct own investigation - go further then
those visible now; and
© if I think there is risk then I will seek 2nd opinion from expert like geologist and soil expert
consultant as mentioned by forumer cheahcw2003.

Of course I will pay the geologist and soil expert consultant for their services rendered and if there is mishap (Natural Disaster) maybe I can take them to court for compensation for giving wrong advice.














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Hi! kelvin667,

I found this in google search and hopefully this may answer your query.

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file...634&sec=central

http://kytze.blogspot.com/2009/03/stop-mer...evelopment.html

It looksd like there is water-fall and stream in the hill so the Hill is a water retention area.

Now sure whether the same is true.

Many years ago the hill has been planted with durian trees.

To find out if there is monkeys etc then you need to take a early morning stroll along Persiaran Meranti because monkeys will normally come out in morning just like you see those monkey at Bukit Kiara (TTDI)

Another point to note is how many ton of earth (inlcuding rocks, trees, soil etc) have to be removed from the Hill for the Project.

At this juncture the risk is not imminient but it will be a real factor after all Phases have been completed. No need to think far as just look at Damansara 21 is a good example.

Even if the Classes 3 and 4 slope are not touched the question is whether the surrounding development will have any impact on Classes 3 and 4. slope. Anybody know how far is the nearest Condominium to Classes 3 and 4 slope?

If true the Buyer will never find out the actual reason and maybe the slope issue is one of the factors.

If MBB rejected the loan then Buyer can go to other Banks and please make sure that the Bank will aprrove the loan before signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement if not 10% deposit will be forfeited if Buyer cannot get the loan.

There is a proposed link from Damansara Damai but not sure if the Local Council havel approve the said link or not.

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file...591&sec=central

Looking at it there should be a link but I believe Bandar Sri Damansara folk will strongly protest it.

[quote=stevecheahsw,Mar 15 2012, 12:48 AM]
[quote=1282009,Mar 14 2012, 11:24 PM]
The offer letter I received also did not specifically state the DIBS period. I guess it will be included in the final loan agreement.

For the 1st 36mth, Bank will send interst notice to developer, after 36mth (Contract is full), Bank will send interst notice to u, i think u take this notice to claim L&G...???

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If not stated DIBS then I wonder if Developer don't pay then the Bank may ask Buyer to pay.

To be safe such an important term must be stated in the Letter of Offer and subsequently repeated in the Loan Agreement.

Don't rely verbal assurance from the sales person as the commitment to pay is with Developer somewhere in the Loan Agreement or separate documents must show that the Developer agrees to pay i.e. Developer sign some form of documents..

Better seek advice from your own and independent lawyer (not Bank lawyer) particularly to read the Letter of Offer and Loan Agreement on DIBS before signing it.

It looks like that this DIBS arrangement is "gimmick" - better ask the Bank did the Developer gave the Bank some form of undertaking that they will bear DIBS. If so, I believe as Purchaser is enetitle to have a copy of it.

Ask the Bank if the Developer failed to serviice DIBS will it cause the Bank to ask the Purchaser to pay.

Ask if no payment received from the Developer (assuming Purchaser refuses to pay) then will it cause the Bank to terminate the loan.

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Yes. I agree with your view.

Just wonder if Developer did not honour the pledge on DIBS with the Bank then what will happen?

The Purchaser/Borrower will be "victim of unforseen circumstances".

It is rather dangerous that DIBS will not be stated in "black and white" @ SPA and Loan Agreement.

If the Project has been abandoned then Purchaser/Borrower surely have to service the DIBS until Project is revised.

If ever the Bank file court case agst the Purchaser/Borrower to recover the interest portion and I wonder how the Purchaser is going to tell the Judge about this DIBS arrangement between the Bank and Dveloper if there is no "black and white".

Get a good compass and walk up to site and you will get the answer.

Then go the office and ask the exact location of Block A.

IDMC means Deed of Mutual Covenants which normally signed at the same time with SPA.

The Damansara Foresta is a private land including 21 acres green but Bukit Kiara TTDI is not a private land therefore the maintainance of Bukit Kiara TTDI is undertaken by DBKL.

Damansara Foresta is under the jurisdiction of MBPJ therefore any concnerned party may direct the query to MBPJ if MBPJ will maintain the little forest in a private land after vacant possession.

I don't think the Developer will maintain the 21 acres green and if the Developer did then the money should come from the maintainance charges collected from the owners of Damansara Foresta.

The most important thing that we need to be informed is whether the 21 acres greens are acessible to the public at large or limited only to the resident of Damansara Foresta.

Yes it seems the forest view is very popular now - last time Paradesa Rustica and Paradesa Tropika enjoyed the view of the hill but now it has been turned into Damansara Foresta.

Hope the forest will remains and no additional developments will ever take place at the forest.

Don't be so negative as the development was based on rock hill @ solid land.

If you said "landslide boh" the first to suffer are the residents below Damansara Foresta i.e. Paradesa Tropika and Paradesa Rustica or maybe road users at NKVE Highway.

There are heavy rains lately but there is no sign of landslide occurred near the development site.

To answer your question - ask yourself if you are businessman would you want to incur unnecessary costs when the SPA expressly did not mention about the hob & hood.

My lawyer just emailed this article which appeared in NST and I hope it will be useful guide to all owners of Damansara Foresta, more particularly, to DIBS issue.

http://www.nst.com.my/red/brochure-overrid...5#ixzz1yUSt0PfN

No worry just pay a visit to Bank Negara Malaysia bringing your IC and you can apply for your CCRIS Report (foc) from Kiosk machine.

I don't think that your name will be blacklisted as the payment of interest during construction period was agreed between the Developer and the Bank.

If you are worry then the best answer is you to obtain a copy of the CCRIS Report.

For past 2 weeks raining almost everyday of course the works will be slow.

To pay a visit at the site every 3 months and then you will see the progress.