Mois , no I only have one shared bh. One research Bh in Kk . I built 20 BHS in Sabah in the last 2 and half years only 7 are designed and commissioned the rest 12 are all designed ,built , commissioned . All are done in house no sub contractors and all sold including land. BH #25 sound on next week and is my only BH for Sale.

I take great pleasure and challenge locating land in the best area and develop BH and the challenge to populate the BHs. Not much interest in the end product. In fact is starting to be a bit boring and routine. May look for new challenge. Oh by the way if you can produce 20 to 30 kg even at 2k / kg is still very attractive. I have been encouraging many friends to be BH developer.

Wise wing , I spent 2 years on design and building methodology .my present method I can complete a 20x 60 ft x 8 ft / stories x3 stories from ground up to on sound
within 60 days. A 2 stories of the same dimension 45 days. Imagine in 15 months you may have 1000 nests who knows !

Gerald 7 you need to stimulate your BH and if no increase try to find the source of problem. Very often a small change like internal sounds or adjusting position of LAL or altered the size of LMB or LAL can brings good result. Don't fear changes otherwise the bh will remain stagnant forever.

Bancroft I took a course in insect rearing . Built a insect barn attached to the BH and insect released directly into the roving area. The insect will then fly onwards the LMB attracted by the outside light.

I use 4 kg of mixed that I manufacture myself. Very successful producing heaps of Muttu as name by Pak Agong. Been doing this in my researched BH. Lots of birds come twice a day to feed and a wonderful sight. I have yet to be convinced if the birds will actually stay as I have not recorded any unusual increase in birds populations or nest in the last 8 months.

I do belief that if you have a huge population and insufficient feed sourounding area to sustain your birds . Then extra feeding is necessary. I also belief that continuous feeing will keep your baby birds from straying to far in search of feed and might settle in other bird house.

I am making feed to start from day one in my new # 25 th BH which I expect to on sound next Monday . I will assase if this will pull lots of birds to the new BH and in a way advertising the new BH and see if they will stay.

From my observation in my research Bh , lots of birds actually rush into the BH and feeding in the air well type entrance. I am speculating that if we pull them into the bh they start to get use to the BH and they may find the BH attractive and will stay.

I am having a Ball having so much fun!

Yes I experimented with duck eggs on NP that I installed to the most populated area in my 3 rd BH. I was a failure and not only unpopulated but later turn green with fungus. The temporary plank was then removed.

From the courses I attended I learn a composition of Duck eggs and bird shit and my home made aroma ( only for own use and never sold a drop ) this is made into a paste and plastered on the wall in the nesting room. Had good result but weather it was concidental or not is arguable.

Now I only placed buckets of BS in all new BHs and pour in some of my Homemade aroma . I also placed 2 gallan of aroma in the roving area with the cap ofF so act as slow release.

Having said that I will not vouch the effectiveness of aroma in BH. All BHs that I sold I maintain them until there are 30 establish nests and markings. So I just do it as
A routine and the new owner are very pleased and value for their investments.

I do belief that fresh bird shit in New BHs will make the new tennant feel more comfortable. Answer is three things ! Bird Shit , Bird Shit and Bird Shit !!!

Taking one week off from Walet walt and walt so have little time to chat. Above is Only My own opinion and for fun reading.

To make insect the mix is made up of two ingredents and three type of chemical . One of this chemical prevents the mix from going bad . I make 4 kg feed every week . At end of fifth week I removed the tray no one . Meaning the feed will be exhausted after 5 weeks. For every 4 kgs of mix you produce 1 kg of insect. The insect can be harvested by blowing them into a very fine mash nylons nets. This are frozen and have a shelf life if two years. Present I have 7 kgs of frozen insects in my freezer . This I plan to use in June to feed Fladging from the cave which is available during harvesting time.

If you have the correct method and correct combo there is only a very acceptable smell of fermentation. I started of with my BH smelling as if there is a dead body inside. After a course with Pak Agong and a wonderful holiday in Surabaya making insect is not a problem. the feed will be totally consumed and only leave behind a layer of dry brown crust which I will try to raise meal worms. Yes I am also raising meal worms for my Murai .

I also tried the rotten fruits method . This produce a different type pf insect slightly smaller With red eyes. . The birds love them but hard to produce in large quantity and if the juice is allowed to accumulate the rotting fruits will go moldy and smell pretty bad.

Back to KK tomorrow and on sound in my latest BH. Them fly direct to Kuching and going on a swiftlet safari with two buddies. Will check out very exciting area where 1000 nests in two years is possible but at last it is so isolated and remote but again if you choose the road that is less traveled by , that may make a different. Who knows. Having so much fun with Walet.

Good luck will contrubuit more when I take my next break from Walet Walet Walet. Cheers !

My take most important is LOCATION .

Using test location sound with many nearby BHs will not determin that the area is suitable even with hundreds of birds attacking your stress call tweeters. , I learned a very expensive lesson . Bhs in this type of area Will be very difficul to pull in tennant from your neighboue's BHs and lead to slow growth.

Best area will be the feeding area which is isolated and no BHs nearby. If you find this type of location you hit the jackpot. BH no 20 ( design and commission )in such area, oil palm estate 6 months 10 days 197 nests not counting markings.

A friend who also build bh and shared many BHs dont belief in aroma at all and never use a single drop of aroma or bird shit.. Has many very successful BHs. Puzzle !!!

Another success story the first bh in Kuala Matu converted from a timber chicken farm house on stilt . Bottom use a storage and workshop. 400 nests in the first year. Is now 4 years old with 3000 nests .

Conclusion LOCATION good design and good sounds = SUCCESSFUL BHs . If don't have GOOD location just keep your money in the bank . Successful BHs brings so much happiness. Stress and frustrations is bad for health. Please don't get me wrong I ALSO HAVE FAILED BHS ( slow growth about 30 % ) Happy reading.

Just maintain 85 and 29 u cannot go wrong.

Lovely eulogy Philoswiftlet and such compliments for our fellow swiftlets farmers. I had the pleasure of spending lots time and sharing ideas with Charles over dinner on many swiftlets seminars that we attended. Unfortunately his plained visit to Sabah never materialize . Miss his good humor and share lots of laughters. Charles R.I.P.

I have not been active on this site lately. Built my # 27 BH. Might build one more . A new concept BH measuring 20 ft x 24 ft x three stories at very low cost below 50 k to counter the current poor prices of BN. With my understanding on birds behavior and 4 months of designing and lots of thoughts , I don't see why it shouldn't work.

I have basically loss interest and confident in BN farming. I have achieve some unprecedented result of late. 2 BHs started harvesting at 7 and half months old both have 300 nests and markings . My last BH 45 nests and markings in 2 and half months, but its time to move on to other things of interest and new challenges.

Best wishes and good luck to all.

KOTA KINABALU: The State Government will not allow bird’s nest operations in the city because of hygiene issues.
“Don’t tell me it doesn’t cause disease because I am a doctor and I know what I am talking about,” said Resource Development and Information Technology Minister Datuk Dr Yee Moh Chai when asked to comment on a recent report in which the chairman of the Working Group on Edible Bird’s Nest Swiftlet Ranching from the Department of Veterinary Service, Dr Fadzilah A’ini binti Abdul Kadir, claimed that bird’s nest ranching was allowed in towns and cities in Peninsular Malaysia and that the swiftlets which produced the bird’s nests were not contaminated with bird flu as they do not mix with other species of birds.
“The person making the statement better stop taking nonsense. As far as we in Sabah are concerned, we will not accept. If she thinks there is nothing wrong with having bird’s nests in the city, I will set up the bird’s nest operations next to her house, and ask her to tell me if it is healthy and hygienic for me to do that. If she says it is alright, then I will set it up (in the city). We cannot have bird’s nest in the city because of hygiene.
“And if you say it is conducive for tourism, this person better go back to school and learn about hygiene, tourism and how to manage a city,” he said.
He added that as far as the state was concerned, it was agreed that bird’s nests was an industry that should be encouraged because it generates revenue for the state, but it has to be conducted in a manner that is conducive and acceptable to the people.
“I know no one wants a bird’s nest operation next to his or her house,” he said.
Yee also said that anyone saying otherwise was just talking nonsense, as far as he was concerned.
“The unacceptability of having bird’s nests in town is a statement of truth,” he stated.
He then said that the state has got its own rights and that it doesn’t have to conform to the cultures, mindset, mentality and philosophy of the rest of the world, and West Malaysia.
“Sabah is Sabah. We know what the people want, the interest of the people. We will stick to that. As far as West Malaysia is concerned, they can do what they want,” he said.
Prior to the interview, Yee presented prizes to the lucky draw winners in the recent ICT Fiesta 2012.


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In all fairness to the victims effected and the public outcry is too loud to ignore . I wrote about this scenario before and if the Sabah authorities were to impose their guidelines and shut down BH in city and housing estates . The shellfish BH owners has only the self to blame. Only my own opinion.

Sandakan to host World Swiftlet Convention
Posted on January 5, 2013, Saturday

SANDAKAN: A World Swiftlet Convention (WSC) is in the works to discuss, among others, the commodity’s potential and prospects to industry players, according to organising chairman Datu Omar Ali Datu Bachtiyal.
The convention is expected to be held sometime in March.
Omar said the convention would have participants coming from China, Korea, Singapore, Brunei, Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand. An invitation is being extended to all swiftlet ranchers in the country to participate in the convention.
“We’re working to ensure that the World Swiftlet Convention is a reality soon, and we hope government and private agencies will assist in helping us achieve this.” said Omar.
He added that such a convention would also be important event for the economic growth of Sandakan and Sabah.
“Sandakan is renowned with the existence of the Gomantong caves… but we have not seen any efforts in promotion to attract investors. So, I’m sure the convention will help to place Sandakan in the eyes of the world.” said Omar.
“My goal, together with Syarikat Gerak Borneo one of the participants, is to ensure that Sandakan becomes one of the leading producers of birds’ nests.” said Omar.

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Bro . Justin now I know why you are researching to breed swiftlets that product 4 eggs per season.

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fb posting . Indonesia news expect AB Bird nest price to touch RM 4000/- to 4,300 .