http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_th...public_of_China

It's US$5 per day not RM5 per day. Luckily, Wikipedia is up to date, phew, there is no need to argue from Moa's time! Please link your source.

Also, I hope you are not going around to brag about you are going to let go your bird premise at RM40K, not RM400,000. are you?

Hmm...wouldn't this make a good example of how a giant bullies a little guy? Giant with almost 8x the size of little guy (600 sq ft-700 sq ft) ignores the existence and the needs of a little guy to sell his bird premise at just only $40K.

Forgive my ignorance as I am still learning to make myself a better giant and I apologize for bringing you to the current state of affairs that make you decided to sell your investment at a loss if you so feel...

This post has been edited by swift4ever: May 21 2013, 10:20 PM

Are you sure export issue of raw nest will be resolved in June? I heard they are going to meet up in June to continue where they left off...

I agree owls are good if they don't kill our birds. Maybe we should start calling for ethical treatment of animals from now on in this forum?

Taking the easy way out, sigh, only if I've got good statistics to prove that it works...If you are feeling all doom and gloom and cost is your concern in the current venture, just get a timer and a radio, turn on the radio near your entrance below your roof when owl come to visit the house at dusk and dawn. We try this technique because man is the enemy of all owls plus owls have good sense of hearing. Most importantly, we human has no intention to kill... DYODD as birds could be affected by your talk radio.

[quote=xunji,May 28 2013, 12:12 PM]
[quote=West Wing,May 27 2013, 12:04 PM]
OWLS! serious problem with BH@Agriland and there is no true solution to it. Present method of killing the owls are not advisable as it's against the law and the Gmen agency should come up with an answer to this problem.
a scarecrow di work well here.

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Wow! this got to be the best owl repeller with the least cost I ever heard. Thanks for sharing.

Remember you sent me a personal note to check the MOF history which I've not responded for I have no interest in history of MOF, not to mention discussing it in the back of the forum. Sorry for the slack. You might have voted for PKR at tsunami 505 but do you have any clue why MCA resigns from every post they long held? Simple! it's just give and take. MCA chose not to believe they are no longer relevant by giving in within the coalition from the past yet they're worry to lose Gelang Patah stronghold so they did again. Poor MCA giver and taker ex-chief. Blame it on giver, old guard for the obendiency, blame it on taker, the lopsided pact endorsed and if all else fails, do the usual thing, brainwash people, wag the dog which they are good at doing.

As a side note, Datok tok seems to stand out from the rest of MCA at this time by helping fix the things up now, I gathered.

For others, if my posts filled with hate, anger and negativity, take them as biased opinion if you like.

Hey, where is this guy Eng Lee whom I haven't seen for a while ever since he catergorily grouped all methods and techniques required in swiftlet farming on this forum?...his work and others who help along are deeply missed...

There are things we should bookmark as a reference page on iphone, tablet, laptop or whatever, anytime we need it and anywhere such as foolproof owls repelling technique shared here...

Hey, since when have our swiftlets been educated to read signs of turning left or right? Are we talking about the same species? Are we too humble or ignorant to know what noobs/swiftlets want here?...just sayin


It's not helping with such a sudden death turn...

I got the following pictures from other forum, might be of help to all affected by owls...

It's practical if you catch them alive and set them free elsewhere. It's not if they starve to death when they are trapped If I may add. This trap was proven effective even set inside the premise.

I've got similar version with GENTLE touch.. , too bad I don't have a picture now but I can post it up later as soon as I get it. Maybe you need to modify or fine tune it to help??

Since we are into OWLING so much and I'm starting to get a hang of posting pictures, texting color words in here...How about these downsized ones? It's No-miss even the smaller ones, no?




Hmm..from your experience, can we have semi-auto now if not fully auto to wipe them out?

The GENTLE - No stock. Specific.
The CRUEL - No idea where it's from. Probably used for others too.

So you're armed and dangerous to the birds? lol. Given that there isn't much positive news for BN and safety in the neighborhood of this country, this is reassuring...

Wonder I should arm myself...just days ago, an rep from association said I'm a dangerous man. You know what I said to him? "Good guys die early" - He is as BAD as I'm now.

Swift 4ever is transforming.. Swift..and should I consider to throw in the towel after much Oppa Gangnam Style and OWLING?

Is it Regent 5 SC from Bayer?
Around RM100 for 250ml. Class 2. Primarily for termite termination. Not advisable for other purposes in BH beside termites. BN accidently stained in BH is likely if work not carried out properly. I even sprayed on the bird once...

I advocated the use of EM some time ago but wondering why no one gives a thought to EM here. I might have good aroma and good organic fertilizer from EM treated bird shit if used regularly. Do I get the best of both worlds or just my wishful thinking?

News of bird dropping used as skin treatment came out a few years back and hopefully droppings from swiftlet are sought after for the same purpose someday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...king-young.html

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/08/02/fec...skin-treatment/

If only bird nest found to be a cure for common disease in future, then birds give us greater things then we ask for.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Sep 12 2013, 08:55 PM

I am not consistent EM user myself nevertheless I wish my BH is EM pre-treated. Maybe someday I can "harvest" droppings for skin treatment immediately. no need to UV-sterilize droppings like the nightingale's they are doing now. As for fungus, I've no such problem, not because of EM I use, mainly because of BH has been kept dry all the while. Feedback is good from selected EM users only but I still believe It would be useful if birds don't mind nesting around the good organism on the plank and I keep a drum of EM now ready for use when needed. EM is cheap and environment friendly and that is good enough reason for BH farmers to promote it, don't you think so?

Yes, allow us to determine our own future...

Our children will blame us for not kicking up the dust to demand justice, letting it swept under the rug like they want it.

There should be a logical explanation when the show ends we are not taken for a ride, as soon as they come out with a plausible lie, we will hear it. Despite what we witnessed, despite the suffering, our spirits will not be broken.