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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Wigan 0-0 Liverpool

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kevafk
post Dec 27 2011, 01:17 AM

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yea cant realy blame carrol, they need to respect carrol.. give him a better pass or cross, not those half hearted delivery :/..

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post Dec 27 2011, 01:18 AM

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I don't know why Adam is getting automatical start every match...


Added on December 27, 2011, 1:19 am
QUOTE(kevafk @ Dec 27 2011, 01:17 AM)
yea cant realy blame carrol, they need to respec carrol.. give him a better pass or cross, not those half hearted delivery :/..
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Carroll has a better game than most of the players.

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post Dec 27 2011, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(redkord @ Dec 27 2011, 01:14 AM)
is it wrong to say that KK need to go ?
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You're not wrong at all. That's just your opinion. But heck, KK needs time to manage the club/players. It's not easy to get the team where it used to be.
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 27 2011, 01:18 AM)
I don't know why Adam is getting automatical start every match...


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Carroll has a better game than most of the players.
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When i suggested this earlier here that kenny was showing favouritism towards adam,i was laughed off.
tape23
post Dec 27 2011, 01:25 AM

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im interested to hear what kenny has to say now.
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(tape23 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:17 AM)
it's not kennys fault we're playing badly. i only have to look at the players.
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but responsible for bringing some shitty players
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:27 AM

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i will cringe the next time i hear we are signing English players again...
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Fowl @ Dec 27 2011, 01:25 AM)
but responsible for bringing some shitty players
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i dont think with the current crop of players that we have now can be called shitty. mind u downing is an established england international. Charlie and hendo were both player of the season and young player of the year respectively. jose too btw.


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post Dec 27 2011, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(redkord @ Dec 27 2011, 01:14 AM)
is it wrong to say that KK need to go ?
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Too early i suppose . Personally i like King Kenny , although he payed some awfully high price for normal squad players .
The team need a clinical finisher .

Cheeky bid for Raul please . blush.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:30 AM

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at least henderson manage to get out of his invisible mode
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(Adell G @ Dec 27 2011, 01:16 AM)
that fat boy need tobe benched and lose some of his fat  mad.gif
only steven gerrard and bellamy is  properly servicing crosses and passes to andy caroll

next game we need to put spearing and gerrard in the middle
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If you analyse carefully, most of the time, Suarez and Bellamy get their goals off their good work and combative running. How many times this season we saw Downing cross that creates a goal? How many times Adam was involve in creating a goal? In fact whenever he takes an indirect kick, I scream. I almost knew that he wont score. He will either hit the wall or the ball fly out. Dont even get me started on Hendo whom to me was the Rubbish Signing of the Season.

In fact sometimes when Johnson score, he run on his own and charge like a bull and hopes for the best in his finishing. Enrique is not the best of crosser even during his time at Newcastle. He makes clever run and pass to Jonas Gutierrez do all the crossing most of the time.

Poor services to strikers are evidently affecting Caroll, Suarez and Bellamy. If I was opposing manager, I just need to tell my defenders to mark Suarez and Bellamy and Caroll on the air. Liverpool will just fumble their way without them.


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post Dec 27 2011, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Fowl @ Dec 27 2011, 01:25 AM)
but responsible for bringing some shitty players
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i tot the one responsible to bring in players was comoli


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QUOTE(Fowl @ Dec 27 2011, 01:25 AM)
but responsible for bringing some shitty players
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i tot the one responsible to bring in players was comoli

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kevafk
post Dec 27 2011, 01:37 AM

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well i never like the idea of buying stats proven players, all these how many complete crosses stats.. like maxi, bellamy, gerard are inteligent players its comfortable to watch them play n wat we can see..
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Dec 27 2011, 01:31 AM)
If you analyse carefully, most of the time, Suarez and Bellamy get their goals off their good work and combative running. How many times this season we saw Downing cross that creates a goal? How many times Adam was involve in creating a goal? In fact whenever he takes an indirect kick, I scream. I almost knew that he wont score. He will either hit the wall or the ball fly out. Dont even get me started on Hendo whom to me was the Rubbish Signing of the Season.

In fact sometimes when Johnson score, he run on his own and charge like a bull and hopes for the best in his finishing. Enrique is not the best of crosser even during his time at Newcastle. He makes clever run and pass to Jonas Gutierrez do all the crossing most of the time.

Poor services to strikers are evidently affecting Caroll, Suarez and Bellamy. If I was opposing manager, I just need to tell my defenders to mark Suarez and Bellamy and Caroll on the air. Liverpool will just fumble their way without them.
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yup....r the most lethal when we on the pace....not some needless silly triangle play while attacking.

Cant blame the wingers, Suarez had his solo chances as well.

We need to play from the start like how we play the last 20 minutes just now. Then we talk top 4.


Added on December 27, 2011, 1:41 amSome Man U fans love it when they win and spit at other teams results in times like this. Theyre the worst kind of fans.

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Dec 27 2011, 01:37 AM)
well i never like the idea of buying stats proven players, all these how many complete crosses stats.. like maxi, bellamy, gerard are inteligent players its comfortable to watch them play n wat we can see..
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Stat can lie one.

If a DM or CM player always like to just pass around with defenders and fellow midfielders with simply straight pass, then he get high passing conversion, vs
a adventurous, playmakers always try to make defence splitting pass, creating passes, surely he will get a lower pass completion ratio.
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:46 AM

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haha like our adam n hendo.. both of them just sitting in the middle n never really takr iniative to run to empty space. They just kept asking the foward run back down n expecting them to run back up to score with shitty crosses..
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:46 AM

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January transfers are coming.

Hope no more promising English players pleasee.


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post Dec 27 2011, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:40 AM)

Added on December 27, 2011, 1:41 amSome Man U fans love it when they win and spit at other teams results in times like this. Theyre the worst kind of fans.
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this is public forums. get used to it, kid.

QUOTE(ftptwistedclown @ Dec 27 2011, 01:46 AM)
January transfers are coming.

Hope no more promising English players pleasee.
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how to qualify UCL home grown quota without 'em? doh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:17 AM

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I dont want Kenny to go. Kenny has brought in so much love and faith back into the team after the gloomy days of Roy. With Roy, if we play Blackburn, we would be defending 60 mins minimum. Kenny's game has been attacking all the time.

His players let him down. It is not the manager. We all knew about what Downing is capable of. We knew what Caroll was. We knew Adam was the celebrated captain of Blackpool that even Harry Redknapp felt compelled to challenge for his signing. And we knew Hendo was an upcoming player.

Nothing works in favor of Kenny's liverpool. 17 times hitting the post. Good Players not delivering. Suarez get banned. Opposing goalkeepers put in world class performance of their lives while they were crap VS Man Utd.

Just absolutely nothing is working for the King. Maybe he needs to take a trip to the temple of Macau and get some blessing to get some luck back to the team.
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:19 AM

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i think we should stop talking about crosses ... why is there lack of scoring chances by through pass .. i prefer central plays instead of wide play .. like that, gerrard and his pairing would perform better .. steward downing still can cross if he had to do so but concentrate mainly on through ball from midfield.. i think its the best way to break up a solid defence (and predictable i know... that is when a team player shows his ability).. you dont have to score many to win a game .. better than crossing and hope that players up front gets the ball and scores like what we're doing now ...

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