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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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sunnyK
post Nov 26 2011, 10:47 AM

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which mean to say big majority of malaysian buy houses to occupy and not for speculation.

a pricing correction or cooling off by 10% to 25% depending on location should occur second half next year as property prices enter its stabilizing period and from thereon the economy especially and even politics will determine prices

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post Nov 27 2011, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 27 2011, 05:42 PM)
1) Irrelevant, property price is more about economy situation and property market itself. Before GE or not GE generally has not much influence, except if there is huge chance of gov policy after GE that is different story which I don't see it is likely.

2) Yes, it can happen, but demand can go up as well. Wages go up, inflation factor drive more people go into property etc.
Nobody knows, this still remain a big question mark there. People said the same during 2009-2010. Now we are end of 2011.

3) Economy no good now, but it is not totally bad all together. BNM may tighten here and there, but the move seems quite mild, and real killer of property come from interest rate level, which I don't see BNM will hike further, due to economy is slowing down a bit and with Euro crisis threatening the global growth (which affecting the export industries)

4) PR or not, they still have family here, if they earned in overseas, they might use overseas money to buy property here, even more affordable/cheaper for them.

Retire doesn't mean must cash out, even migrating, some are hanging on the property as well.
People here have a mindset of hanging on the property they owned as it is viewed as a valuable asset, and more "value" than cash.

What for cash out a 500k house then put in the bank?
Hang on the 500k house and rent out, to earn passive income is better. Who know 500k can become 1 million after 10 years later?
FD rate is low and inflation can slowly eat it.

5) Not much related to overall property market trend. This is to build affordable home for middle income people, and this is not going to be build at prime location area.
It is similar to low cost flat that to cater for low income people, and not much influence on the overall prime location property market direction.
Wait and see?
I believe it will be snatched up once it is clear where is the location, and criteria to own it.

The one that can change the property market trend is property start the vicious cycle of down trend, which prompt people stop buy for speculation, fear of losing value in their property or there is alternative better investment or FD can offer much better return rate than property.
So far, it is difficult to see this happening.
A correction of too steep pace of rise can be expected, especially at high end level one, but to say property market crash with inflation threat around us, chance is rather slim at least until now.
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easy financing is the culprit for uncontrollable property price increase and moreover our bank here is flooded with liquid and ever willing to give out juicy and attractive mortgage loan package and developers are smart to promote their package such as low downpayment and no interest charges during construction period which is ripe for taking by speculators and as a result drive up pricing for newly launched projects and this effect, forces a spillover in price increment across the board for all types of property and almost all location

demand for property goes in tandem with population growth as well and i sometimes wonder why chinese here with lower production rate compare with other races can fill up the spaces in the demand. anyone have any idea on the supply and demand situation in klang valley

global economy slowdown next year if predicted correctly and the eurozone finacial crisis may cause uncertainties and put some pressure on rising property prices .there's a feel of a correction and cooling off but nobody knows for sure .

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post Nov 29 2011, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 28 2011, 10:09 PM)
Somehow I fail to understand why many people said election is a big risk to the property market.
As we know, a major shift of gov policy on property issue is seems unlikely whether pre or after, why property market need to worry about the election then?
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stability is the key word in all investment . in a developing or third world country , sometimes a change in government can cause chaos and power struggle .

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post Dec 1 2011, 10:56 AM

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China man is coming in to build more houses causing oversupply and as such , driving down property prices . beware and be aware

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post Dec 2 2011, 10:32 AM

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the workers could have a lunch or tea break
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post Dec 6 2011, 05:37 PM

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the Star news are yesterday's news and since then chinese property prices have drop. why would chinese want to flood malaysian property market as their second tier cities at cheaper prices still have much to offer

our MM2H have not been a success

the social and political scenario here does not appeal to them yet .

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post Dec 6 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Dec 6 2011, 08:23 PM)
a friend of mine working in Beijing since 2007, he said the condo in the city area cost RM1,200 - 1,500psf in year 2008/9, now RM3,500psf.
he was so regrets not invest in Beijing
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Beijing is now a international class city and what are we now . It has about 20 Million inhabitants , it is a amazing emerging economy where the has not 10 years ago works their ass off and took risky opportunities to be where they are now . five years ago a group of chinese pose a embarrasing question to me , why KL people walk also so slow one

ask yourself why hong kong , taiwan,korea and japan or even singapore whose property prices are a few to ten times more expensive than KL does not invest here in property . the answer is , it does not appeal to them

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post Dec 12 2011, 03:55 PM

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super rich malaysian after dumping property here in malaysia will soon be buying property in China, Europe and US

us the poor one will be fighting to buy RM600-900k per unit pigeon hole just to take a night sleep and shelter from the rain and shine and while rushing on and off to work , will still need to face and endure the freaking traffic jams . many will need to thrift and save enough to serve the bank for the rest of their lifespan.

what a freaking world we live in now

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post Dec 15 2011, 08:35 PM

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looks like people here been saying they had been panic ,desperate or even forced buying of property lately.

ours is a free market with willing buyer and seller basis but i say its the judgement ,timing and the need to have/purchase property at any particular time that person justify to himself/herself. don't blame the developers as they are mostly profiteers as most already is aware but the one issue about developers here that i dislike is they built houses with low quality materials and lousy workmanship . purchasers need more protection or better regulated laws from the authorities concerned as many bought their first home with hard earn moneys

just heard news again that China will experience economy slowdown for 2012 and i believe the rest of the world too , so short-term wise , there should be some pricing adjustment downwards.
China's economic health is so important to Asia and the rest of the world that any slowdown thereof will affect the world's economy as their purchasing power is hugh . just imagine palm oils,raw material from our natural resources ,tourism etc ;they could have bought from us

long term wise , property prices will continue to hold and gain unless one bought a lemon house

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ARE YOU A DEVELOPER
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:12 PM

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that statement is too sarcastic . you think china's investor are fools or what . surely they would have done their due D
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post Dec 30 2011, 08:32 PM

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3 more days to go for bank to evaluate loan approval based on nett income . how much will these implementation affect prices ? for high-end condos , i foresee maybe 5 to 10 %

global enonomy uncertainties another 5 to 10 % .

general election trauma and uncertainties ,maybe 2.5% ,becoz richman wants liquidity and cabut/get out

what say you guys

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post Dec 31 2011, 10:08 AM

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why would a richman wants to live in linkhouses

RM1.78m is the asking price. dont you guys think the buyer no no how to nego

most prolly transacted at 1.5m
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post Dec 31 2011, 11:43 AM

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you are a kid obviously .

why would a guy with 1 million wants to buy a 1-1.5 million property. he would wants to buy property worth 5-10 million

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post Dec 31 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Dec 31 2011, 11:57 AM)
1.78mil is the transacted price.
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i salute the seller and buyer and the super agent as well rclxms.gif
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post Jan 6 2012, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Jan 6 2012, 01:43 PM)
my personal expectation is 25-30%
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 6 2012, 02:57 PM)
Condo can only fetch RM400psf. Anything over this is overprice. Since some of the project is reaching RM600psf, 33% discount should be a norm this year.
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i like your forecast and calculation and since the key to successful purchase is to buy at below market value , i support you but alas , we may have to wait till at least second half 2012 for anything near to your projections to realize

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post Jan 6 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 6 2012, 03:23 PM)
If investor like us cannot make money, nobody will buy developer product. The reason high demand because of investor also. If developer don't let  investor earn, the developer is digging its own grave.  laugh.gif
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post Jan 9 2012, 12:15 PM

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GDP is always a significant factor in determining property prices . the real concern is whether the drop in GDP growth will continue the following years.

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