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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Dec 1 2011, 10:07 AM

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hi that day i heard from the agent that start from next year, bank will use net income to approve housing loan. Meaning to say, if your salary is RM3k, they will minus off things like EPF, sosco, tax, which become only about RM2.4k and use RM2.4k / 3 is your monthly installment for the house. Is it true? If yes, this rule will affect the property price next year?
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post Dec 1 2011, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 1 2011, 11:12 AM)
nowadays the pro no use salary to goreng properties la...
but this can affect the non-pro which is quite a number also. when the non-pro unable to get approved by banks, then this can affect the sales. thus, price can drop in my opinion. but drop a bit la.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Dec 21 2011, 11:27 AM)
the prop now is stagnant. the correction is anytime soon... the prop listed in iprop at 6 months ago at same listing price tag still listed there till now with same listed price... no buyer.
u mean subsale or new project? new project like baju @ pandan jaya, i heard sell like hot cakes wo.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Dec 21 2011, 12:27 PM)
subsale
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ic, which area? it is near town one or further up like cyberjaya?
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Dec 21 2011, 12:33 PM)
cheras prop
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ic, i think cheras is pretty big. deep area and which do not have future MRT, its price might be a bit stagnant.
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Dec 21 2011, 01:01 PM)
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post Dec 21 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 21 2011, 02:59 PM)
Housing starts in America has improve 9.3%. I don't know if this will impact Malaysia in terms of property price.
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how much suddenly up so much?
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post Dec 21 2011, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 21 2011, 04:19 PM)
As a matter of fact, price of house is still dropping:

Whole US average house price:
2008 $198,100

2009 $172,500

2010 $172,900

2011 $162,500
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wow, where u got this figure? u got the same for malaysia also? is our going down or up?
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post Dec 21 2011, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 21 2011, 05:38 PM)
Malaysia dun have because its not transparent.
aiya, that's bad. malaysia should be transparent like US.
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post Dec 21 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Dec 21 2011, 06:04 PM)
you need info for malaysia?
very simple, use the price for 2008 x2. that's the current price  rclxms.gif
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so that is about 33% increase per year for malaysia biggrin.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Dec 21 2011, 06:14 PM)
well, it's only happened since 3rd quarter 2009 till 2011.
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so what's your forecast for next year for malaysia? increase 30%-50%?
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post Dec 22 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Dec 21 2011, 07:29 PM)
If I be able to forecast accurately, I think I'll sitting in bursa malaysia every weekday, and im  @#!*%  rich now tongue.gif
Well, I guess there will be price correction for some area, no major fall on the price unless our economy hit by major crisis. I guess only ya, don't blame me if anything badly happened to u smile.gif
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price correction for which area?
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post Dec 22 2011, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(R o Y @ Dec 22 2011, 09:30 PM)
You can get the House Price index for Malaysia from:http://napic.jpph.gov.my/epsKeyStatistics/...tletWindowsnpbj

1988 - 92
1989 - 96
1990 - 100
1991 - 126
1992 - 141
1993 - 148
1994 - 159
1995 - 189
1996 - 213
1997 - 217
1998 - 196
1999 - 192
2000 - 203
2001 - 206
2002 - 211
2003 - 219
2004 - 230
2005 - 235
2006 - 240
2007  -252
2008 - 264
2009 - 268
2010 - 286

From 1988-1997 prices increased 135% equivelent to 10% compounded increase per annum

From 1997-1999 prices dropped 12% equivelent to 6% drop per annum

From 1999-2010 prices increased 49% equivelent to slightly over 3% compounded increase per annum

No drop during Global Financial Crisis

The price increase we are experiencing now is nothing compared to the price increase seen during the decade before the Asian Financial Crisis.

Even with the continuous 10% compounded increase per annum prior to 1997, our House price index only dropped 12% in 2 years during the AFC.

If the market only dropped 12% during AFC, after massive gains of 10% per annum prior to AFC, do you see our market and economic fundamentals right now being worse than prior to AFC?

At 3% per annum for the past 10 years, our prices still have alot of catching up to do.

That being said, this is just my analysis of the data published by the Government. Other are welcome to share their analysis as well and hopefully we can have intelectual exchanges based on facts and figures.

I certainly do not go out there spreading false rumours. Ironically the one claiming others are making unfounded allagations is also making unfounded allagations of their own.
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Cool data and analysis! Thanks! thumbup.gif
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post Dec 23 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Dec 23 2011, 12:17 AM)
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...153455/Article/


Malaysian property market to slow down next year

22nd December 2011
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Thanks for the news! "Luckily" mine is only 3 years plus later only complete. Hopefully that time okay back.
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post Dec 23 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Dec 23 2011, 11:37 AM)
Now I understand,

all data and statements that show price will increase further, cannot be trusted, no matter where it comes from

we must trust all data and statements that show property price will fall
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i thought already those data also show property price will fall which is in 1997-1999?

but if talk about long term, the percentage is still up much.
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post Dec 27 2011, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 27 2011, 02:45 AM)
The more people talk about price can crash, the chance of it crash become low.

The crash often come when most people cannot forsee it.

This is always repeating and proven.

Because when more people wary or cautious crash may around the corner, it means those people are out of excessive speculation.
It is always excessive speculation that causing the bubble and lead to crash afterwards.

I will deeply worry if no one talk about crash, and everyone said BBB.
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post Dec 27 2011, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Dec 27 2011, 02:58 PM)
Not since 2010 la...... it was actually since our grandfather generation smile.gif
haha! rclxms.gif

if anything wrong, just gotta stay with the new property then. mine is SOHO smile.gif

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post Dec 28 2011, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Dec 28 2011, 12:24 AM)
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/27/real_estate/home_prices/

Home prices down for 6th straight month
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i thought recently went up back 9.3%? hmm.gif
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post Dec 28 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 28 2011, 10:28 AM)
Its new house built by developer is up by developer increase 9.3%. Not house price.  laugh.gif
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oh new house up 9.3% but old house goes down.
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post Dec 28 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2011, 11:45 AM)
Market turn time, now expensive than yesterday, not worth, wait to go down further.
Next month, even higher already, hey last month, just 400k, now 420k, expensive already, wait.
why u can read people's mind one? biggrin.gif

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