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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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GangHo
post Nov 24 2011, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(macyhouse @ Nov 23 2011, 09:43 AM)
don't agree .. as on a whole its stagnant
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Correct. All the while the focus has been on 2012/2013.

Earlier warning is for us to make preparation as property is not liquid asset.


Added on November 24, 2011, 4:17 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 24 2011, 04:39 PM)
Every economy crisis, we faced different kind of problem and challenge.
Yes, household debt is alarming high, and BNM has been monitoring on it and keen on lowering down.

If now enjoy future money, mean need to pay back in the future, so probably having slower growth or even recession, but it doesn't mean forever.
Recession happened always is to correct previous over or unsustainable issue.

In the future, household income can rise to offset, or no more debt can be built further resulted slower and or economy recession, once this get over, the economy will be bouncing back, and property price will rise again.
Yes, near term seem correction of house price can come in, but it doesn't mean it must crash.


Added on November 24, 2011, 3:41 pmThe current problem is household debt.

Back before 97, it is high corporate debt across, high leveraged.
But now corporate mostly are cash rich.

At least at corporate front, situation is more healthy.
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Dear Cherroy,

How to know that our corporate are cash rich GENERALLY? Read ENUF listed company financial reports? Or report from the minister? Financial analysts? Which reliable one? None that I know of.....

My worry is those cash is sunk into property investment and thus not liquid.

I work in a CASH RICH public listed company b4. Now the share price, sigh...........

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post Nov 24 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Nov 24 2011, 05:23 PM)
guys, be prepared for another round of property price up up up...LOL
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Reason?

Another round of QE coming?
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Nov 24 2011, 05:29 PM)
Opps...no reasons to be given. QE is not going to affect most of the Malaysian. Ours is stimulus packages which our gomen said no need a new one.LOL

by the way, shared this as seen at the edge website; WOW...DPC condo 750psf now.
Northshore Condominium, Desa Parkcity, Kuala Lumpur (SOLD)

Land area: N/A; Built-up area: 904 sq ft; 1+1 room studio; 1 bathroom; freehold

RM678,000

This basic unit overlooks the hillside of Country Heights Damansara and parts of Desa Parkcity. This is on a high floor and ideal for a bachelor pad. Situated within Desa Parkcity, a guarded community with amenities such as neighbourhood mall and is linked via the LDP to the rest of Petaling Jaya and beyond.

Sale concluded by: Andrew Tan of Reapfield Properties; 012-273 8998

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The Northshore Garden Condominium, Desa Parkcity, Kuala Lumpur (SOLD)

Land area: N/A; Built-up area: 2,454 sq ft; 4+1 bedrooms; freehold

RM1,650,000

This is a lower-mid floor unit, with unfettered views of the surrounding Desa Parkcity hillside and beyond. Genting Highlands and the KLCC are visible on a clear day. The unit itself has a grand and spacious living hall and views of the pool below. The condo overlooks the township's breathtaking lake and park grounds. A great unit for owners to transform into a swanky family home. Desa Parkcity enjoys connectivity to greater PJ via the Damansara-Puchong Highway.

Sale concluded by: Andrew Tan of Reapfield Properties; 012-273 8998
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Stimulus package from government?

(1) Our minister warns us of possible bankruptcy.
(2) The election is coming. Whatever promised depends on.......you know I know........
(3) Our country/government financial health is in good shape?? I'm doubtful.....

The comforting truth I know is we have a fair bit of Malaysian earning Big money outside the country. However, there are still the remaining that is working within, they have to brace themselves for the worst. The prevalent trend in recent human development is GREED and SELFISH. When the 90% is in trouble, the 10% will fold their arm waiting the reap the biggest profit. Even between siblings.

Repost: http://biz.sinchew-i.com/node/54182

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 24 2011, 05:48 PM)
Majority well run listed company are cash rich, you can see many from audited financial report of listed company.
It is totally different situation vs prior 1997, whereby most company under significant leveraged.
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(1) Public listed company in Malaysia constitute only small percentage of the total companies in Malaysia.
(2) Other companies are either directly owned or indirectly owned. Their performances? Unknown to public.
(3) Audited financial reports(no bias? totally independence?) I'm doubtful.
(4) Financial reports are closely linked to the desired share price?? what do you think?

What will happen to the employees during bad times even though company is cash rich??

In my opinion, we are lack of financial analyst that is overwhelming knowledgeable that is able to convince us of total market situation. I hope for this genius(like Nouriel Roubini, Thomas L. Friedman, Donald Trump & etc) to come out to serve its countryman.

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QUOTE(bighagan @ Nov 24 2011, 06:06 PM)
optimist lives happier as the pesismist all keep thinking 2012 is the end of the world....

dear optimists,

stay true to yourself...hero can only be found in a economic crisis...

get rich or die trying....dont die....looking only

hahaha
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Nothing to do with optimism or pessimism but it's about the TRUTH.

When the tsunami is coming, you got to warn the others lest they are drown.

It's about concern and care, not personal gain.

Individual will die trying but a family man die trying will drag along the family, wife and children.

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QUOTE(omyfish @ Nov 25 2011, 04:15 PM)
5 years ago: 
A fresh grad earning RM1800/month planning to buy a 300k property in future.

Monthly installment for 90% of RM300k loan (35 years) is around RM1250.

He know that he need to have at least RM4200 income per month to get the bank to approve his loan for a 300k property.

So, he work very hard, hoping to get the increment until he achieve the amount of income.

5 years later:
He had achieved RM4200/month income (Not bad right?) . But the same property in the area had increased to RM600k.

Monthly installment for 90% of RM600k loan (35 years) is around RM2500.

Now, he need to have at least RM8300 (net income) to get his loan approved for the same property. sad.gif

5 year later (let say property price keep increasing):....
He achieved RM8400 net income... but this time he need to have RM16800 income to get the property in same area..

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Yes for those who is capable and has found their dream home, they should go ahead with their purchase.

But for those who is not capable and trying to push the limit, becareful. There are so many signs out there that the economy is slowing down. Keep your money for survival first, investment should be secondary.

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