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post Nov 19 2011, 04:12 PM, updated 15y ago

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I am facing this problem, for the 1st set, I can maintain let say 170 pds for 10 rep. 2nd set, I can maintain the same 170 pds for 8 to 9 rep in correct form (sort of), and normally I can force myself for the 10th rep or I reduce to 80 pds and push 10 more rep. 3rd set will be normally 150 pds 8 rep and then 60 pounds 10 rep.

In the beginning, I think it was okay to not even able to push 60 pounds in correct form (not able to make my arm str8 after I let it down.) But after 3 or 4 weeks, I still get such tired-ness easily. I din feel my muscle sore (neither my tricep nor my chest) but I just find it hard to make my arm str8, and I can't even continously for full set with 60 reps.

SO I was wondering, which part of my muscle should I target? Is it my tricep or chest ( I suppose it is tricep)

If so, should I increased the set of training them or keep on forcing myself to push let say 120 pounds after that, even if I just manage to do 3 rep?
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post Nov 19 2011, 04:25 PM

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170lbs, 80lbs, 150lbs, 60 reps, what?

Anyway, if poundage alone is your goal, doing more accessory work on triceps will help. And train your back.
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post Nov 19 2011, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Nov 19 2011, 04:25 PM)
170lbs, 80lbs, 150lbs, 60 reps, what?

Anyway, if poundage alone is your goal, doing more accessory work on triceps will help. And train your back.
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I am sorry for the confusion

1st set, 170lbs x10
2nd set, 170lbs x10 (get tired on 8th set, force myself to finish the 10th)
3rd set, 150lbs x8 then 80lbs x8
4th set, 120lbs x7 (cant make to 8th), then 60lbs x10
5th set, 120lbs x5 , then 60lbs x15
6th set, 60lbs x15

Erm, I want my overall upper body to be thicker and bulkier.... so I think poundage should be my concern right? (Based on what I read)
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post Nov 19 2011, 04:42 PM

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The dropsets of 80lbs/60lbs are a bit redundant. If you can do 8/10/15 reps, it means you still have some energy left in the tank to hit a few more reps at the original weight. What you can try is, for example on your 3rd set, get your 8 reps out for 150lbs, rack the weight, give yourself a 10-second or so breather, then try and get as many reps more as you can.
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post Nov 19 2011, 04:50 PM

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Umm, I'm looking at the weight from 170 lbs to 60 lbs in 6 sets and something doesn't add up? I mean, it's 170 lbs on the first set and I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
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post Nov 19 2011, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 19 2011, 04:50 PM)
Umm, I'm looking at the weight from 170 lbs to 60 lbs in 6 sets and something doesn't add up? I mean, it's 170 lbs on the first set and I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
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its a reverse pyramid. but yeah i agree with dan. no point doing the mini drop sets
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post Nov 19 2011, 05:38 PM

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I've done a reverse pyramid before the drop looks big. Is this with like minimal rest time?
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post Nov 19 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(the100308 @ Nov 19 2011, 04:36 PM)
I am sorry for the confusion

1st set, 170lbs x10
2nd set, 170lbs x10 (get tired on 8th set, force myself to finish the 10th)
3rd set, 150lbs x8 then 80lbs x8
4th set, 120lbs x7 (cant make to 8th), then 60lbs x10
5th set, 120lbs x5 , then 60lbs x15
6th set, 60lbs x15

Erm, I want my overall upper body to be thicker and bulkier.... so I think poundage should be my concern right? (Based on what I read)
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If you want to get bigger, drop sets = useless. And you're doing too many sets. Way too many sets. More doesn't mean better.
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post Nov 19 2011, 06:23 PM

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At best I do a triple drop set. I do them to push a lot of blood into the muscles to get a real good pump and pre-fatigue my muscles. But that's it, like dark said, if you wanna get bigger, drop sets aren't exactly suitable.
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post Nov 19 2011, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 19 2011, 05:38 PM)
I've done a reverse pyramid before the drop looks big. Is this with like minimal rest time?
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Thanks guys for all the replies... I tried to keep my rest time not more than 40secs...

The reason I drop a lot is because, when I tried heavier weight, I can't even lift them for more than 3 times I suppose, my arm just wont get str8 after the 3rd rep or even 2nd... Its like my mind is not commanding the the muscle. So I try to do more lighter weight to make my muscle use to it...
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post Nov 19 2011, 08:27 PM

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Then it's too heavy. Drop to a weight that you can perform 10 - 12 reps.
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post Nov 19 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Nov 19 2011, 08:27 PM)
Then it's too heavy. Drop to a weight that you can perform 10 - 12 reps.
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Do you mean the first 2 set or?
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post Nov 19 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(the100308 @ Nov 19 2011, 08:13 PM)
Thanks guys for all the replies... I tried to keep my rest time not more than 40secs...

The reason I drop a lot is because, when I tried heavier weight, I can't even lift them for more than 3 times I suppose, my arm just wont get str8 after the 3rd rep or even 2nd... Its like my mind is not commanding the the muscle. So I try to do more lighter weight to make my muscle use to it...
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Tsk... don't be so stubborn. I've already said if you want to get bigger why the heck you using nonsense drop sets for? Heavy, low reps.
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post Nov 19 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 19 2011, 10:07 PM)
Tsk... don't be so stubborn. I've already said if you want to get bigger why the heck you using nonsense drop sets for? Heavy, low reps.
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ok sure sure... low as in 6 - 8 am I right?
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post Nov 20 2011, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(the100308 @ Nov 19 2011, 10:15 PM)
ok sure sure... low as in 6 - 8 am I right?
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post Nov 20 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(the100308 @ Nov 19 2011, 08:13 PM)
Thanks guys for all the replies... I tried to keep my rest time not more than 40secs...

The reason I drop a lot is because, when I tried heavier weight, I can't even lift them for more than 3 times I suppose, my arm just wont get str8 after the 3rd rep or even 2nd... Its like my mind is not commanding the the muscle. So I try to do more lighter weight to make my muscle use to it...
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do as heavy as long as your form doesnt suffer.
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post Nov 21 2011, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(the100308 @ Nov 19 2011, 10:15 PM)
ok sure sure... low as in 6 - 8 am I right?
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and correct technique and form...





 

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