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post Nov 19 2011, 08:51 AM, updated 14y ago

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The Sony NW-Z1000 was presented at IFA 2011 and is actually their first PMP that makes use of Android Gingerbread 2.3 as the operative system. In terms of specifications it packs a dual-core Tegra 2 processor running at 1GHz as well as 512MB of memory RAM. On top of the 4.3-inch screen with 480×800 pixels as the resolution, it has a digital amplifier named “S-Master MX” which should improve the sound quality.


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Sony has not had the best time with the Walkman brand since the dawn of the MP3, given that the company has had to play second fiddle - like everyone else - to Apple and the iPod.But the company's latest device may well change that, and it's all because of Android.At the moment, the Android OS is the only viable alternative to iOS when it comes to mobile devices, so it is refreshing to see the system power up the Sony NW-Z1000, the latest addition of the Walkman range.

This Android-toting Walkman was shown off at IFA but it was very much in prototype stage.
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It's great then that it was shown off at CEATEC and has under its hood some decent technology, which is there to enhance the NW-Z1000's main job – to play music and play it well.
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One of the big bits of tech to make sure this is happening is something called S Master X digital voice cancelling technology. This helps you listen to the device, without the fear that the noise on the Underground and what-not will get in the way.
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We tried this out on the crowded floor of CEATEC and were impressed with the results. Usually, noise cancelling technology is something that is put into headphones, so it is good to see it in the device itself.
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The Sony NW-Z1000 is a good-looking device – the 4.3-inch 480 x 800 screen pinged with quality and, along with the Tegra 2 processor, it has been equipped with Android 2.3.
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The PMP has connectivity options too – including Bluetooth, GPS, and it has a G sensor as well. When it comes to space, there are three options: 16GB, 32GB and 64GB.
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The Sony NW-Z1000 release date is December in Japan, and we are hoping it will be coming to the UK soon after.

http://www.techradar.com/news/portable-dev...walkman-1032854
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:50 PM

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400 x 800 display..

"Digital" amp..

not impressed at all..
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post Nov 19 2011, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 19 2011, 01:50 PM)
400 x 800 display..

"Digital" amp..

not impressed at all..
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at lease now it has a chance to play flac and all other lossless file with android system and no longer limited to atrac
this should be a decent player if the price is set correctly... but knowing sony would most definitely put a premium price for this sweat.gif
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post Nov 20 2011, 01:50 AM

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Nicer design then iPod touch. Look like SE xperia phone. This better then other Android PMP eg: Samsung Galaxy PMP due to the Digital audio line out aka line out dock LOD, which user can connect to an better amp without double ampping like the iPod LOD.


Added on November 20, 2011, 1:52 amAbout LOD
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1977204&hl=

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post Nov 20 2011, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Nov 19 2011, 10:37 PM)
at lease now it has a chance to play flac and all other lossless file with android system and no longer limited to atrac
this should be a decent player if the price is set correctly... but knowing sony would most definitely put a premium price for this  sweat.gif
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Samsung Android phone can play FLAC for so long already using default player.
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post Nov 20 2011, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 20 2011, 01:50 AM)
Nicer design then iPod touch. Look like SE xperia phone. This better then other Android PMP eg: Samsung Galaxy PMP due to the Digital audio line out aka line out dock LOD, which user can connect to an better amp without double ampping like the iPod LOD.


Added on November 20, 2011, 1:52 amAbout LOD
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1977204&hl=
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can explain on the difference between using LOD on the Sony and the Apple itouch ?

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post Nov 20 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 20 2011, 01:50 AM)
Nicer design then iPod touch. Look like SE xperia phone. This better then other Android PMP eg: Samsung Galaxy PMP due to the Digital audio line out aka line out dock LOD, which user can connect to an better amp without double ampping like the iPod LOD.
Nicer design is subjective.

IMO the iPod touch is much nicer as it's sleeker and much simpler. But to each his own.
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post Nov 21 2011, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Nov 20 2011, 12:45 AM)
can explain on the difference between using LOD on the Sony and the Apple itouch ?
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no idea smile.gif I think is same just for the dock propose both and even sandisk sansa pmp LOD also bypass the internal amp digital audio line-out, audio direct from internal Digital analog converter(DAC) without amping.


Added on November 21, 2011, 12:03 amThe main problem just Sony harder to get dock speaker compare to apple iDevice :-)


Added on November 21, 2011, 12:10 am
QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 20 2011, 03:35 PM)
Nicer design is subjective.

IMO the iPod touch is much nicer as it's sleeker and much simpler. But to each his own.
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Agree but myself like Sony and SE design eg: Vaio, Sony Walkman PMP, SE phone. Maybe Japanese more creative even toshiba notebook also look nicer then other brand. Maybe I own an iPod so, I don't feel the special of the design just normal.

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post Nov 21 2011, 07:15 AM

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price quote from Sony Store Japan for reference. (http://www1.jp.sonystyle.com/Qnavi/Main/p_audio_000000_070/)

16GB 27,800 yen (~RM 1,144)
32GB 32,800 yen (~RM 1,350)
64 GB 42,800 yen (~RM 1,761)

the higher JPY rate doesn't help much here.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 21 2011, 12:02 AM)
Agree but myself like Sony and SE design eg: Vaio, Sony Walkman PMP, SE phone. Maybe Japanese more creative even toshiba notebook also look nicer then other brand. Maybe I own an iPod so, I don't feel the special of the design just normal.
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A Vaio for example only looks good on the outside. Just flip any Vaio laptop around and you see all the ugly grills and screws and doors.
Apple MacBooks on the other hand even looks great at the bottom (and inside). A MacBooks bottom is clean and simple. And no ugly stickers anywhere.

Design wise, Sony is years behind apple.

But like I said earlier, beauty is subjective. Some people prefer ugly grills, screws, doors and stickers. smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2011, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 21 2011, 11:11 AM)
A Vaio for example only looks good on the outside. Just flip any Vaio laptop around and you see all the ugly grills and screws and doors.
Apple MacBooks on the other hand even looks great at the bottom (and inside). A MacBooks bottom is clean and simple. And no ugly stickers anywhere.

Design wise, Sony is years behind apple.

But like I said earlier, beauty is subjective. Some people prefer ugly grills, screws, doors and stickers. smile.gif
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How come Macbook pro no grills for cpu fan? wonder what kind of cooling solution? heat pipe?


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QUOTE(CLF @ Nov 21 2011, 05:15 AM)
price quote from Sony Store Japan for reference. (http://www1.jp.sonystyle.com/Qnavi/Main/p_audio_000000_070/)

16GB 27,800 yen (~RM 1,144)
32GB 32,800 yen (~RM 1,350)
64 GB 42,800 yen (~RM 1,761)

the higher JPY rate doesn't help much here....  sweat.gif
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So expensive shocking.gif Better get an SE xperia phone + iPod touch rclxms.gif

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post Nov 22 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 22 2011, 05:42 PM)
How come Macbook pro no grills for cpu fan? wonder what kind of cooling solution? heat pipe?


Added on November 22, 2011, 5:44 pm

So expensive shocking.gif  Better get an SE xperia phone + iPod touch rclxms.gif
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just googled and the price is around the price of X series MP3 when it launch.
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 22 2011, 05:42 PM)
How come Macbook pro no grills for cpu fan? wonder what kind of cooling solution? heat pipe?


Added on November 22, 2011, 5:44 pm

So expensive shocking.gif  Better get an SE xperia phone + iPod touch rclxms.gif
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Same as a regular notebook, a fan. The intake is through the keyboard holes and port holes. The exhaust is at the rear, between the 2 hinges.

It is not the coolest of cooling but design wise it is clean and beautiful. Just go to any apple store and you'll understand what I mean
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post Nov 24 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 22 2011, 07:47 PM)
Same as a regular notebook, a fan. The intake is through the keyboard holes and port holes. The exhaust is at the rear, between the 2 hinges.

It is not the coolest of cooling but design wise it is clean and beautiful. Just go to any apple store and you'll understand what I mean
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Tnx 4 the reply, iPod touch got 1 problem charging time the device when I touch it (the metal body)will kena electric shock, with 1A charger.
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Really? Never had that happen to me b4..
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post Nov 24 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 24 2011, 11:12 AM)
Really? Never had that happen to me b4..
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even iP4 and 3GS also same charging time hold the metal body/part of the phone also kena the current(short-circuit) using stock original charge. My friend told me this and I also experience this.
Even iPod speaker dock charging also same short-circuit until can light up a test pen, not so pain but can feel the it brows.gif
If I use my SE phone charger is ok no short-circuit (750mAh), pc USB port charge also ok Apple device will not charge using an 500mAh USB changer.
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 24 2011, 02:20 PM)
even iP4 and 3GS also same charging time hold the metal body/part of the phone also kena the current(short-circuit) using stock original charge. My friend told me this and I also experience this.
Even iPod speaker dock charging also same short-circuit until can light up a test pen, not so pain but can feel the it  brows.gif
If I use my SE phone charger is ok no short-circuit (750mAh), pc USB port charge also ok Apple device will not charge using an 500mAh USB changer.
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this electroshock i always get when i charge at my home... but honestly i dont have it at my office.... i suspect the current at my home is a bit unstable....

and i also have sweaty palms so sometimes im too sensitive to electric... even at escalator also i usually kena....
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post Dec 24 2011, 10:28 AM

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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3116...n_nw-z1060_32gb

Comparison Table [2] | Sony Walkman NW-Z1070 64GB | Sony Walkman NW-Z1060 32GB
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3117&id2=3116

Comparison Table [2] | Sony Walkman NW-Z1060 32GB | Apple iPod touch 4th generation 32GB
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3116&id2=2855

Comparison Table [3] | Sony Walkman NW-Z1060 32GB | Apple iPod touch 4th generation 32GB | Sony Walkman NW-Z1070 64GB
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&i...2=2855&id3=3117


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Believe me. Been there, done that.

Sony's line of stuff's always have a drastic price drop after 2-3 months.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Dec 24 2011, 10:14 AM)
Believe me. Been there, done that.

Sony's line of stuff's always have a drastic price drop after 2-3 months.
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too slow already for tegra2, now ppl want tegra3(codenamed Kal-El) soon can be found in upcoming Asus Transformer Prime.
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Dec 24 2011, 10:07 PM)
too slow already for tegra2, now ppl want tegra3(codenamed Kal-El) soon can be found in upcoming Asus Transformer Prime.
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It's mean for music only... tegra2 more than enough power already.
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If for music only A series also more than enough lar~ Need dual core and touch screen meh?
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Dec 24 2011, 10:12 PM)
It's mean for music only... tegra2 more than enough power already.
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If music better spend on a PMP/DAP with decent amp
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Dec 24 2011, 10:07 PM)
too slow already for tegra2, now ppl want tegra3(codenamed Kal-El) soon can be found in upcoming Asus Transformer Prime.
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for a small resolution 800x480 tegra2 should be fine already
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 19 2011, 01:50 PM)
400 x 800 display..

"Digital" amp..

not impressed at all..
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There is a diffrence in trying a product and not liking it. and not giving it a chance. 800 by 480 4.3 bravia mobile sony screens aren't bad. tegra 2 dual core with 512mb ram is good if not the best pmp (hardware wise).


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"too slow already for tegra2, now ppl want tegra3(codenamed Kal-El) soon can be found in upcoming Asus Transformer Prime"

THIS IS A PMP (PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYER, NOT A HUGE METAL PLATED TABLET.) vmad.gif

sony's previous mp3s were pretty bare in features and specs, but thier sound quality (especially thier digital s master amp) is one of the best sounding out of the box music players. no huge need for (lod amps? rockbox? power amps? etc) and with this player you get android 2.3 goodness (so you can play flac, you can use power amp, Equ etc).

I think in my opinion this is the best all round media player sony have created, ipod will probably match features and hardware with next ipod 5 (but that's a platform prefrence). however i will be as bold as to say, it will not match sony's sound quality.

japanese conversion prices are always more expensive than the actual price when system is released in its specific region. if this is priced similar to ipod touch or hopefully just below. it will definetly give ipod a run for its money, (for me anyway)ng

Currently i have a samsung galaxy s 5.0 media player, while i love the media capabilities of it, my r.i.p sony x series kills it in sound quality, as soon as the z series comes out my wife will get the android sammy she always nags me for, and i will have the best of both worlds with the sony.

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I bet u can't tell the diff between a sony and an iPod in a blind test, with all eq turned off. I probably can't even tell the diff between my iPod and hm601 which is supposed to be worlds apart. Unless one hisses and the other does not.

Since I use an iPod touch, the Sony display is a downgrade for me smile.gif
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Will try when it arrive in malaysia. Wonder if they allow me to bring my headphones to their store and try or not.
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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Feb 2 2012, 09:26 PM)
Will try when it arrive in malaysia. Wonder if they allow me to bring my headphones to their store and try or not.
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I always use my own earphone or headphones including my own amp when I test at Sony... they don't care much.
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good pmp?

cowon > sony & apple

ya'll can b**** bout "great" designs when it does nothing to reproduce good music

ok works done *flies away*
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Feb 2 2012, 07:47 PM)
I always use my own earphone or headphones including my own amp when I test at Sony... they don't care much.
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ni budak bawa C4 utk boom music cool.gif
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Feb 3 2012, 11:40 AM)
ni budak bawa C4 utk boom music cool.gif
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bawa C4 sure dpt murah... semua takut.
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Feb 3 2012, 04:57 PM)
bawa C4 sure dpt murah... semua takut.
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Feb 3 2012, 09:26 PM)
angkat je FOC LOL whistling.gif
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C4 sweat.gif How bout i bring my amp + laptop + headphones and try ah? That time i plug out their headphones from their sony player and use for my phone they also look at me alr like cannot try shakehead.gif If possible i wanna bring laptop ,amp , headphones there brows.gif

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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Feb 3 2012, 07:44 PM)
C4 sweat.gif  How bout i bring my amp + laptop + headphones try before ah? That time i plug out their headphones from their sony player and use for my phone they also look at me alr like cannot try  shakehead.gif  If possible i wanna bring laptop ,amp , headphones there  brows.gif
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Anyone bring laptop,amp, and headphones before? Wanna know your experience rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Feb 3 2012, 09:59 PM)
Anyone bring laptop,amp, and headphones before? Wanna know your experience  rolleyes.gif
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Eh.. what is the point bringing laptop... we talking about testing Sony NW-Z1000 Andriod MP3. Not sony headphone.
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Feb 4 2012, 12:19 AM)
Eh.. what is the point bringing laptop...  we talking about testing Sony NW-Z1000 Andriod MP3. Not sony headphone.
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ehhhh ya hor forgot. sweat.gif Erm guys A series and the new X series sound the same? i personally have 1 A series.

 

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