Where is that article which I requested that Evra admitted he used a derogatory terms over Suarez?

Except for the chidish statement from your beloved club claimed. I couldn't find any other sources. Why childish? They are trying to put the blame on Evra and asked for his punishment. I am not defending Evra but if he is guilty, go ahead ban him for 8 matches too.

To be honest, I'm very surprised on how Liverpool FC handled all of this. First, you went to the public and Suarez admitted he said something to Evra. After the INDEPENDENT committee made their call, Liverpool FC trying to play the 'victim' card here. And to certain extent, wearing that shirt while warming up is a bit of disrespecting of FA and somehow condoning to Suarez's behavior.

Lets just put the FA inconsistencies issues on another topic. Do you really believe that Suarez accidentally called Evra by that term?

This is a good read. Even coming from a Pool fan.

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/debun...trice-evra.html

One can only questioned Suarez's motives. I do think that it is more to wind up Evra..

btw, ignorance is not an excuse.. besides he has been playing in Europe for years..

IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE. Did you miss my post on that line?

If our National GK found belittling the Indonesian players, ban him. He is there to play football and at the same to promote the country's image. Racism shouldn't be allowed.

I've been in and out of the country(mostly to Indonesia), I found it is surprising that most of them have been belittling us in every single thing. When asked, I just replied, we have no issues with Indonesians over here. Unlike them, of course. And that, is an another subject.

Back to the topic, Liverpool FC, the player himself and the fans played the "innocent till proven guilty' card.

When Suarez admitted he did use some words against Evra, you lots seemed to discount that fact.

Remember, this is not between Liverpool and United. This is between Evra and Suarez. And along the timeline, Evra and United kept quiet and professional about this. Leaving to the authorities to decide the matter. Yet, Liverpool and Suarez came up with all sorts of interviews. Plus, with those other Uruguayans players backed Suarez up. (This is to reply to some Liverpool fans that asked why Evra kept quiet..)

When being found guilty by an INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE, the FA charged Suarez with 8 matches ban. Liverpool FC and the fans seemed to be riled up. Trying to defend the player from all kind of angles. And, Liverpool FC came up with that ridiculous statement. What is even disappointing, the club decided to produce that Tees and wore them for warm up when playing against Wigan. Without realizing the more important job to do, 3 POINTS.

Most of Liverpool fans(including Liverpool FC) trying to play the 'victim' card. Trying to point the finger to Evra and how some of them been saying it was Ferguson's plot after all. What is even more ridiculous, Liverpool FC claimed that Evra has said something derogatory to Suarez as well which was unfounded. The fans follow suit. Again, playing the sentiment of Liverpool vs United. By all means, if Evra has said something demeaning to Suarez and found guilty, ban him as well.

What I found even funnier is, when some of the Liverpool faithfuls are on their sense, most of other fans just ridiculed them. For an example, Collymore himself has been abused by the fans. How is that even possible?

Again, ignorance is not an excuse. That Negrito term might not be offensive in South America but it is demeaning in England. Like I said, one can only question Suarez's motives to call Evra by that word. Especially in a heated rivals clash between Liverpool and United.

This post has been edited by boxsystem: Dec 26 2011, 06:16 AM

Well Duke,

There's always a limit to everything. Like I have said, one can only question his motives to call Evra by that word in a heated rivals clash.

Justice for Suarez is more likely to ask the FA to reconsider the 8 match ban. What the players do on the pitch carries more messages than those guys do in the stands. He admitted that he used the word. I see nothing more than to rattle Evra.

He should've thought about the consequences before he said it. Easier to say that he has to pay for what he did. And for most people to brand him a racist, it's more to Liverpool FC that brought this upon him.

If Liverpool FC just release a statement whereby Suarez apologized and didn't know the cultural differences, things wouldn't get this messy. Instead, Liverpool FC claimed A and B plus wanted for Evra to be punished. And that act of wearing those Tees, are just stupid, in my opinion. It sends the wrong message throughout.

Like I said, supporting is one thing. But to have a blind faith is just ridiculous.

If my friend is indeed found guilty, then he deserves for what he has done.

i.e. : Rooney being handed match bans because of swearing. He knows what he has done. He deserved to be punished. That is all to it.

To be fair, I'm not sure why is the full report is not being published yet. One thing is for sure that the FA made their decision based on the independent committee's word. To me, if they're willing to listen to an appeal, it's only fair. Which same goes with Mackie case back then.

Now, it would be interesting to know what will happen to Terry. If they're putting him on an another scale of punishment(like they always do with English men) even when there are more concrete evidence, I do think, not only Liverpool FC, every single person to question their decision.

WOW, just WOW.

8 matches seemed to be so little now. Full report has been released and Liverpool FC has been trying to cover their mistakes like a 5-year old. Suarez is a racist after all. Liverpool FC has portrayed themselves to be hunted by the massive.

This is shocking.

Unlike Liverpool FC, United behaved accordingly and not meddling between the two.

As much as I can understand your club's decision to change the perception of the massive on Suarez, the full report from FA clearly states that Suarez did use those vulgar words in not a friendly way. Except for point 6, which you have mentioned. Then again, it shouldn't be used at all, even if its acceptable in Uruguay.

Talk about SELECTIVE READING.

It is clear like daylight that Suarez is the guilty party in this. The panel took an ample time before giving out punishments(which I found a bit lenient) based on what Suarez's own statements(inconsistent as the FA eh?)

So, now the FA is trying to make things right, people started to question things.

Like what DukeRed has said, if it's not for point 6, Suarez should take a looooonnnggg leave.

Not looking so bright now, eh Suarez?

1. If you bother to read the report, you would know why the case is taking a long time. And it was Suarez himself asked for delay. Do read the report.

2. Why was it hefty and heavy? Suarez admitted he used the N word, therefore he is found guilty. Mackie case was the same back then yet he admitted GUILTY and plead. Reduced match bans. Suarez didn't, simple right?

3. So, even if Evra contradict himself, does that take away Suarez's words against him?

4. Again, if you ever read the report you will know the chronology. It started with Suarez's kick towards Evra's knee.

5. Go read the report. This was claimed by Dirk Kuyt and his evidence was rejected.

Why must you feel so butthurt? Suarez did this upon himself. He is supposed to be labeled as a guilty party.

For the record .. on that holier than thou act ..

RECENTLY, there was one of your fellow were making great remarks over Fulham .. lol.

Of course. Two wrongs dont even make one right.

It was delibrate by Suarez. He even said it was a normal foul. And Suarez even went further with racial slur.

Suarez kick Suarez?

You'll make a good lawyer. Pusing here and there.

Blatter is not even remotely in this picture. Rooney was made exampled of, back then. Fair enough. Or Rio and Cantona.

Stop being a lousy lawyer lah. Dont go into circles.

Evra do understand Spanish yet he is not a native speaker. Goodness, go read the report.

You are making yourself look stupid .. like seriously.

This post has been edited by boxsystem: Jan 2 2012, 09:38 PM

^ This.

I know he is a moron but his stupidity even exceeding those retards reside in Pool thread.

And he thinks he trolls us ..

You WIN.

Suarez is still a racist and Liverpool FC is still a joke ..

Sorry Duke, but I am pretty much sure that most of your kin spout crap.

I was ridiculed now as I was back then. Yet, people claimed I'm trolling.

Just take a good look at RedShaun, Solstice and Rotuham, to name a few. Meh, surely they can post essay like replys but whenever found out, diverting the topics to whole other topic.

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Added on January 3, 2012, 3:38 amDoesn't change the fact on what Suarez has done. Furthermore, Dalglish can Comolli knew about this incident since Day 1. Why can't they do anything about it?

And the fact that Dalglish trying to put the blame on Evra is just ridiculous. "Hasn't he done this?" ... like really Dalglish?

Still does not explained that 5-year old statement from Liverpool FC when Suarez being charged.

This post has been edited by boxsystem: Jan 3 2012, 03:38 AM

Why the double standard then? If you can post what and however you like, I can do so myself.

Laughable? Liverpool FC and its fans has become laugh stock throughout this Evra-Suarez saga. Yes, I did post that topic in your thread and I accepted the argument of INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY. I kept myself quiet and when suarez is indeed PROVEN GUILTY, you lots debated on other issues pulak. Which is more laughable?

Don't be silly, your lots of holier-than-thou attitude is very apparent. I could easily pinpoint. As much as we dont like Liverpool FC fans, we dont do name callings generally. What's with the scum, Ferguson Association and bla bla bla.

For the record, every time that decisions went the other way, CONSPIRACY THEORIES came up. LAUGHABLE?

Just face it, you lost your argument. Started to insert those smilies into your posts and claimed you were only trolling? Now that is LAUGHABLE.

This post has been edited by boxsystem: Jan 3 2012, 07:19 AM

Thanks for highlighting. Should you know, I wasn't the one who brought the fans issue first. Oh well, topic deviated anyway.

I think it is clear as daylight that Suarez is proven guilty. It is just some party doesn't want to man up and face it like a man.

This post has been edited by boxsystem: Jan 3 2012, 08:12 AM