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Discussion FA 'kickstart' Campaign against Racism?, Has it the Will to stamp out Racism?

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post Jan 2 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:04 PM)
Like I said repeatedly before this, this is going nowhere. You have your stand , I have mine. If today what happened to Suarez happens on Rooney, you guys would probably act like we did.

So, this holier-than-thou attitude that you guys been accusing us of is actually found in you lots N-O-W. So, stop pointing fingers at others. Sometimes, look into the mirror . Double standard as always.  laugh.gif
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Would?! nice imagination bro thumbup.gif

oh yes yes ur stand is fa punish suarez based on evra is wrong wrong wrong eventho the report which u refuse to read clearly explained the proceedings laugh.gif

oh yes yes airmood has to prove that you utter nonsense instead of u proving ur nonsense arent crap

oh yes yes this is all holier than thou attitude by us and only by us through ur tinted glass laugh.gif
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post Jan 2 2012, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:04 PM)
Erk, I think you missed my point. I din claim it was real and I din claim it was fake. It was reported somewhere so, I will take it with 50:50. Unlike your fellow mates of course, who made his stand at 100%.

So, sorry, mate not funny on that.  laugh.gif
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lol lol so funny u gave a fake tweet ppl are suppose to prove it is fake to u haha u really like spoonfeeding

not funny but u still laugh.gif so it's funny afterall hahaha

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post Jan 2 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:12 PM)
Isn't that the way you lots been doing to all of us in Football Lounge. Claimed every other clubs get the shitty protection of referee,fa bla bla bla. When we complain the same way you guys did, you lots just said that we are sore losers. All these not hollier-than-thou attitude, I dunno what is then.
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oh yes yes we claim and only we have been claiming this and that not u not ur thread ppl not other threads none at all except us hahaha that so funny lol i am actually starting to think u are frm another universe laugh.gif
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post Jan 2 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:20 PM)
We did. But what not making us a laughing stock is that we dont point at others and said they practice the hollier-than-thou attitude.
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what? what?

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:12 PM)
Isn't that the way you lots been doing to all of us in Football Lounge. Claimed every other clubs get the shitty protection of referee,fa bla bla bla. When we complain the same way you guys did, you lots just said that we are sore losers. All these not hollier-than-thou attitude, I dunno what is then.
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seriously? laugh.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:20 PM)
we dont have the audacity to do so like you lots. We feel shameful to point and lambasted others for practising the the hollier-than-thou attitude when we do the same thing. but you lots seems proud doing so.
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that's holier than thou right there my fren, and maybe some ignorance laugh.gif

anyway let's just get back to topic, im more keen to see what's ur argument on suarez's case rather than more holier than thou shit..suits u tho

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post Jan 2 2012, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:28 PM)
You still fail to get me. Like I said, maybe to some extent we do practice holier than thou attitude but we dont go on calling them "those self proclaimed hollier than thou fans"... we dont do something like that but you lots did. that's my point.

It's like you are a thief and you have the audacity to call others thief. Wtf is that?

I rest my case if you dont understand.
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sigh...if u honestly or ignorantly think some of u lots never do that bolded part, i'll just have a laugh and rest my case...move on now...lmao
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:31 PM)
Yes, I do know about the lip read thingy . But that doesnt increase his chances of winning his sue either. If he has the winning chance , he would have sue LFC from the very beginning. It's logical because it's getting nowhere even if he sues.
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he could sue for defamation, that's all...not really a big deal now because he didnt...whether or not he has a big winning chance i dont know
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:33 PM)
You clearly dont get what I said, dont you?
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i do, we are just making rounds of u pointing me(us) as hypocrites and i'm just laughing my ass off because u seem to think ur lots do otherwise...in short, sama sama only la...but if u disagree then cincai u lah, we all have eyes to see

and no im not talking bout having the holier than thou attitude or not, it's the calling bla bla bla part

aiya move on suarez case la

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:38 PM)
When I said it's one man's word, it's my belief that we are looking at the same thing. Suarez admitted that he used the words but not in aggressive manner in which he think that does constitute racism. Evra's claim and FA punishment were not because of insulting words but rather racism insults. That's a different thing.
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which is why u need to read the report la...aduh...fa got appoint 2 language experts lor to determine insulting or not...i reli don thk i need to spoonfeed u everythg from the report eh...or maybe and juz maybe u juz wanna say u have better understanding of those words than the experts? brows.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 2 2012, 08:41 PM)
btw...did FA called Suarez as racist?

if not then the conclusion of the case is not that Suarez is a racist but rather Suarez used the non racist word in his native country but leading to racist insult in England with the intend to wind up the opponent ...as written in the report
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no la...in short they conclude that suarez meant it in an racially insulting way
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QUOTE(choy89 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:44 PM)
people just doesnt read the report.
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that's why lor...no read report still spew rubbish, like that not making one self look like a complete tool oni? doh.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 2 2012, 08:45 PM)
aiyo you don get my meaning

im talking to you

to answer solstice statement bout Suarez is a racist remark
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 08:47 PM)
No time wor. How? 150 pages, tl;dr.

Let's me just make my stand. Before this , in my thread, I already stated, if Suarez found guilty, he should be banned.

The only few thing that irritate me are

1. The proceeding taking longer than expected with doubtful process and lack of evidence. The principle of benefit of doubt never apply.

2. The punishment was hefty and heavy simply because FA wanted to make a point because of Blatter's stupid comment

3. Evra contradicting himselves by claiming Suarez racially abused him but Suarez is not racist.

4. Evra admitted in his evidence that he provoked Suarez and insulted him first which the FA also admitted the truth in this but no action taken against Evra.

5. Evra is super sensitive to on extent that referee aimed him because he is black. To me, this affects the verdict too. If someone is not that sensitive, he would at least not feel so offended. Might be petty but relevant.

The reason I butt in here is because I found it funny that this is turning into a bashing Suarez thread which disgusted me to max. Rivalry aside, rationale first.
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got time la, used up so many time reply us here takkan no time read thru...115 pages oni la, no nid read every sentence...in fact go back few pages read wat i quoted enuf

1. At first I also wonder why took so long. But then the report itself got say suarez himself ask for more time to come up wif evidence for the hearing, hence the delay. there were other evidences apart from juz "evra say this, suarez say that, compare, conclude"...video evidences were taken, interviews wif other ppl were done, analysis were done...the fa panel didnt juz decided on this verdict overnight

2. The punishment of 8 games same as the racist case almost 10 years ago ar...but then tat guy apologized, accepted, and appealed then reduce to 3.

3. This one I disagree lor...coz u see, even he knew suarez has no history of being racist or wat...suddenly he say like tat, so evra was shocked...he even said it felt like a dream becoz he couldnt believe it at 1st...no im nt making dis up, it's in the report

4. True, but suarez admitted himself he didnt hear wat evra said...contrary to wat ur fellow mate in pool thread who oni say it's "ur sister's miao", the words can also be meant in other terms such as "fucuking hell"...anyway the point is suarez didnt hear that which is why we only evra did say that after evra admitted

5. This is already not true. in the report got write lah

so u see why reading the report can help understand better, and perhaps change ur opinion on this...but i highly doubt so la, juz sayin...

talking bout being rationale..actually, and seriously, after the report's been out, ppl have been talking bout how lenient the fa has been wif the punishment, again not making this up, i based this on tv interviews these few days, not redcafe definitely not rawk

and also how poor liverpool dealt wif the situation, from the silly club statement to the shirt...not to mention the amount of liverpool fans lambasting Evra when he was the one being victimised...and like u imagined, if it was Rooney in Suarez's position NOW, I'd be really really ashamed...and i mean it icon_rolleyes.gif





i have to reiterate, again and again, the fa did not and DID NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT just favour Evra's statement for nothing...i've said this like the 3rd time or so in this thread alone...juz for every1 to see tongue.gif

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:26 PM)
Meaning if someone rape a gal, no one see it, he should be let go roaming around freely despite the fact that he already admitted the crime. Sounds wrong to me.
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bro don make me facepalm ler, rape? compared wif name calling/insult?

aih...i don feel like going further into this, read the report 1st lah...many times i ask u to do so liao, and also other forumers here
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:31 PM)
No. Just pointing out that he should at least be warned, fined. Not pointing that he should be banned like Suarez.  laugh.gif
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fined for swearing eventho not done deliberately towards the camera on live tv? i still rmb the argument u gave regarding KD and Rooney's incident few weeks ago rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:35 PM)
But if Evra himself admitted it was an insult in Spanish, why would they need a language expert?
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ok let me put it another way...suarez didnt hear it, and after he knew this from the fa, he did not complaint that to the fa
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:37 PM)
In this case, not like swearing but winding up the fight, no? He provoked Suarez. Initiated it as the FA affirmed.
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again again again again again again again again Suarez did not hear it so how is there any provocation resulting from just that one solitary insult
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:39 PM)
Lousy but I still win cases. laugh.gif

So Evra not native speaker no fault , Suarez just moved to England, fault for not understanding the culture? It sounds confusing to me. laugh.gif


Added on January 2, 2012, 9:42 pm
I thought you guys said that it's doesnt matter much cos Suarez admitted the use of N words. He is at fault cos he admitted it himself... Even if Suarez didnt hear it, Evra admitted the use of insulting words too, why different standard?
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1st thgs first, I duno where u are going wif the evra spanish no fault thingy

2nd...i'll juz say this, if suarez call him negro and evra didnt hear, we already no case to begin wif, hope u understand...

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:49 PM)
No, previously someone claimed that Evra's statement reliable or not, consistent or not, not important cos Suarez admitted he use the word. That's why I pointing this out. laugh.gif
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still apa kaitan dgn evra admit what he said? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:49 PM)
Practice makes perfect yo! Your constant troll in our thread gives me some valuable lesson. thanks.  laugh.gif
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Impossibru! ohmy.gif u were here longer than i am, u urself knw u trolled even more than me brows.gif

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