any wiring master know how to lay wiring to ready 1st as my house going reno soon... thanks in advance 1st..

What do you mean by lay the wiring? The fibre optic cable coming into the house or your local network within your house?

Unifi is on fiber. So you won't be able to lay the fiber now.

Find out where the Unifi / phone grid is, usually is behind the house.

Prepare an empty conduit from rear balcony all the way to your desire location. Put a wire/cable puller inside the conduit. Try not to have too many junction so the cable puller is easier to be pull.

This is how the cable puller look like.
http://wiretie.org/html_products/Fish-tape...lid-3mm-35.html

You need to supply the cable puller to your wireman, ask him put it inside. When all conceal is done, try pull say few feet of the puller see if it got stuck or smooth. Also make sure the outdoor conduit is facing downward, so rain water not flow in / cover.


This is how i did when i do my house wiring. My termination is from laundry area to my "server room".

Yes, i did same thing as weikee, except my cable puller= normal green wire only...i din know there's such cable puller

i prepare the normal phone wire.... now Unifi need diff wiring.. ahdui~

u can ask ur technician to allow conduits running concealed in ur wall to ur prefer points. once completed reno, u can ask telekom to wire to the said conduits. cheap and easy.

My unifi installation only take 1 hour, because i prepare everything for them. They only drill one hole outside for the holder. And wire expose from laundry area until the small conduit box.

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Added on November 14, 2011, 3:57 pmGreen wire is the earth wires loh. Can recycle and use for wiring. The cable puller is about RM 20 for 30 feet.


This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 14 2011, 03:57 PM

Adui~... My house, network cable design all had been centralize to a store room as well as telephone cable, when my house is on the build. The network cable plan was before unify product is kick in. Now only know they direct lay a fiber optic come into the house.

Now since my house now going to renovate again, What I plan now is lay another network cable to kitchen from centralize network area(since the fiber box is come from behind of my house). And my fiber terminate at there with the modem.

Not sure this idea will work or not.

Than you need minimal 2 LAN cable in your kitchen. One for the Internet, another for IPTV. If you plan to do this way, your Fiber BTU will be in kitchen, and in need power socket.

You can ask for the unifi technician to come to your house during your reno to help you to lay the cables up front. Fiber Cables can also be conceal if you want.

This have to pay extra, already state in T&C, they will not install when house under renovation.

got idea how much they charge for this conceal fiber???

RM15 psf

If i pre conceal an empty conduit, i spend less than 30 buck only on cable puller, still can use cable puller for other things and my wireman only charge few the conduit price, which is less than 20 buck.

And Unifi come with free installation. Still is much cheaper.

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 14 2011, 11:39 PM

issit possible to lay unifi fibre using existing telephone line ie using same concept as cable puller - pull out phone cable and replace it with unifi fibre ?

Unless is in the conduit. If its cement on you can't. Also phone line come with rubber skin, which make pulling very hard. The cable puller are smooth which make pulling much easier.

the cable plus its protector is rm15 per meter. if u conseal it, it will be rm45.8 per meter. I jz meet the tm unifi contractor.

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Added on November 15, 2011, 12:17 amactualy u can buy the fiber optic urself and ask ur electrician to help u pull and conceal it...but personaly i feel the fiber optic is a quite sensitive material...jz wory will hv probrlem only...
free fr unifi is they will pull the fiber optic from the station at back of ur house into the small box in ur house only....

This post has been edited by Ahwei81: Nov 15 2011, 12:17 AM

In theory it is possible .. but you should know that not all conduit is 100 % through ..... meaning there could be blockage or halfway through the cable the conduit is separated and not joined in a proper way. By the way, please allow minimum bending radius of 45 degree or as much as possible when you conceal the conduit for the fiber optic cables. This will enable the telekom contractor to pull the cable easily without causing damage to the cable.

You need to know the fiber mode is running on, it have two type: multi mode, or or Single mode. Both use difference fiber core. And also there is difference specification for each mode. If you need this, check existing house owner with Unifi what are the cable spec (usually printed on the cable)

why you want to buy yourselve while TM is free once you apply it? If you get the wrong code or something wrong on the cables, the finger poiting will occurs.

Just get the pipe done and TM folk could put the cables into your decide location will be good. than how and where you want to distribute further will we on your own (TV box / Phone line...etc)

Try avoid "L" corner if possiable, as those are difficult area for cable to turn.

From what I heard from a friend who has his unifi installed, TM will charge for additional length of the fibre optic cable.
Anyway, I think if not too sure about the type of cable, better to let them install. No headache later is got problem.

Does this mean that if the unifi is pulled to the central box only and you had a tel phone point behind the TV, u can use unifi for that TV?

Telephone point is for telephone. Not fiber.

psf??? or u mean Pfr .../ Pmr

just ask my worker to do conceal conduit for this unifi, hack again after wall skim coat done

not sure the unifi contractor will pull the fiber cable follow my route like this


but i'll standby some $$ for the extra length of fiber

this is how my contractor did the job..straight from ceiling, without a puller or whatsoever..

maxis ftth installation was easy..



This post has been edited by numbertwo: Nov 16 2011, 12:02 AM

Here some information....

http://www.unifi.my/unifi/index.php?option...d=69&Itemid=218

You got few 90deg turn, did you have a cable puller put inside? else will be very hard to pull through the fiber.

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Added on November 16, 2011, 7:39 amIf all the way down without turning is easy. BTW, Maxis FTTH give you only private ip right?

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 16 2011, 07:39 AM

no in fact it has a turning of 30-40' degree on top of the picture...but still no issue to the maxis installer..

any contractor for concealing the cable for unifi or maxis broadband?

how to check where is the Telekom JC9C point?

Hi,

From here , the fiber is going to terminate at the TM box at my wet kitchen, or straightaway to my living room?

Thank you.

Will go thru TM box @wet kitchen

I couldn't see this thg near to my house also, is that same place from the telekom phone line tiang? Then it could be on my backyard.

Sifus! If I want to watch Hypptv at ground and 1st floor, how?

Back of my hse



And shop lot

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Added on November 26, 2012, 12:18 amSee where is ur TM box located. If front top floor to ground floor u need to grile a hole to ground floor.
And U need to pay extra $$$ per meter for cable in d hse.



This post has been edited by creativespikes: Nov 26 2012, 12:18 AM

Thank you so much Creativespikes

Nice photos and thanks for sharing.

I would like to ask:

I hav a new house (new development) and at the backyard, there is a MK-FOUR Box for telephone lines.
According to the developer, this new development area had been laid with fibre optics.
If in future, there is available of Unifi service, may I know whether the Unifi contractor will pull the fibre optics from the MK-FOUR box, or there will be constructing those new station at the backlanes? I tried to open the MK-FOUR box, and it seems does not have any fibre optics cable or output...

I m asking these question is tht I would like to install the conduit pipe for fibre optics (to the server room) during renovation..

Please, anyone with experience help...

Thank you

First you have to know how and where the external fiber cable enters the house. Usually it is from the back. The main fiber cable will typically go into a BTU (Broadband Termination Unit) and from there it goes into your house. Inside your house, you would have to run the internal fiber from your BTU to the location where you want to put your modem.
Unifi optical cabling can ONLY be done by TM appointed sub contractors. Your typical wire-man will not have the know how to do it. There are 2 ways you can do the internal cabling: Unifi promotion package, where they do free cabling for you, or you do it yourself, which will probably set you back about 1K+ depending on the length
There are pros and cons to both ways:
Doing it with the TM package usually means you are bound to have unsightly cables because it will not be concealed.

If you want to have it concealed you have to do it upfront using your own money during the wiring work phase of your renovations. This would mean coordinating the Unifi contractor's work with your own wire man. I've heard stories of wire men accidentally cutting the optical cable because they did not know the location it was laid

Hiding the cabling in your plaster ceiling is one option. There cannot be extreme angles in your cabling as optical fiber cannot be bent too much. Typically it would come inside some protective cabling.

weikee,u concealed ur cables then how to check the cables when sth goes wrong with the broadband??

Same as electrical wires, if got problem also cannot check.

LAN cables I did my own simple LED LAN cable tester after I clamp it. Is only CAT 5e, don't need noise tester. Fiber is freshly pull by contractor, sure no problem.

Usual Broadband problem are on the device, or the RJ45 plug.

I want to transfer my current Unifi ( apartment ) to my new house ( subsale )..wat sud i do in terms of cabling ...i had ask the electrician to move the old telephone point to my preferred location and look like they're using normal telephone cable..wat sud i ask them to do since now we are doing all the electrical hacking and relocation...
Sorry..i'm really noob in this....

homeplugs or wireless range extender might solve your problem bro

Can u elaborate more...my new hse is terrace hse with Unifi coverage btw.....

Does the unifi fibre cable link out from this box?

Are you staying I'm high rise building?

Link house. I'm thinking of running the pipes in my house so as to facilitate the unifi installer to run the fibre cables to the tv table. But first I've to determine where is the cable going to be linked from outside.

See how your neighbor unifi connect, usually are from the back of the house. Some house run from a manhole. If back of your house don't have the "tiang" maybe is run under the manhole.

Anyone experienced getting unifi contractor to lay conduit during house renovation? And how much they charged?
The contractor quoted RM350 for the works for my house.

This post has been edited by lotep: May 21 2016, 09:54 AM

For how many points?

Just 1 point at living area.

Conduit was lay by my wiring contractor, for got was it foc or just count at one electrical point anyway is not much. I just have to supply cable puller to be insert when the conduit is lay. Make sure no >90deg bend. If there are 90deg bending, put a box so you can access it.

Wiring need early planning.

While unifi contractor just pull the fiber into the empty conduit using the cable puller inside. No additional charges since is still within the length limit.

This post has been edited by weikee: May 26 2016, 08:44 AM

A bit pricy if just 1 point. Some more is they are doing it while attending your house on behalf of TM to do their own thing, right?

from living to back? how long? RM350 abit expensive.
u can buy the fiber and ask ur wireman lay for u. RM5/meter
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3602334&hl=

Is your fiber cable same spec as unifi? There are many spec of fiber cables.

Yes. Same Spec. Got TM Certified.
We already install many houses, no problem.